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SinuS
06-02-2006, 07:33 PM
This should be my 3rd cycle, after 2 cycles with D-bol & Deca , so I am still a beginner into steroids.

I am thinking to a quality mass cycle, so I want to use Sustanon, EQ and Winny (oral Stanabol). Here is what I'm thinking ... remember its a beginner cycle, so the quantities are not so big ... please don't make fun of them ...

Week 1 - 12: 300 mg EQ (100 mg in the last week)
Week 1 - 2: 500 mg Sustanon
Week 3 - 8: 250 mg Sustanon
Week 8 - 12: 25 mg/ed Winny

Now my question ... is regarding the PCT!

I have Nolva, Clomid and HCG available, but with this roid quantities, I'm thinking not to use HCG.

So I want to use Nolva (10 mg/ed) in weeks 9-10, right after the Sustanon is done, and Nolva (10 mg/ed) or Clomid (50mg/ed) in weeks 13-14, after the whole cycle is done.

So any suggestion for the PCT, or regarding my cycle?

sTaTic
06-02-2006, 08:30 PM
my advice is this. Bump Eq to 400 mgs. Do not taper off on week 12. Run sus at 500mgs per week for 10 weeks. Do not taper off this either. Run winny on week 11-15 right up to your pct. take nolva 40mgs ed/clomid 150mgs ed week 15(day after last winny pill) then week 16 take nolva 30mgs ed/clomid 100mgs ed and week 17 take 20mg nolva/ 50mgs clomid ed.

Thats a good cycle for your 3rd. Although on my 3rd I was up to 750 mgs of sus/week

SinuS
06-02-2006, 09:36 PM
So you say, I should run Winny at the same time with PCT ... why is that?

I wanted to use Winny at the end of the cycle during the remaining EQ weeks (weeks 8-12, so 5 weeks), because they are working nice together ... and I want to use the maximum of their sinergy.

Anyone else have an opinion?

Should I run Sust for 10 weeks, and 500 mg for the first 4 weeks (instead of 2 weeks)?

sTaTic
06-02-2006, 09:50 PM
No, my bad I should be more clearer. run eq week 1-12 and run winny week 11-15. (or start winny on week 10 and run it for 5 weeks rather than 4) eq will still be in your system a few weeks after your last injection. the day after you take your last winny tab on week 15, start your pct. Is that clearer?

sTaTic
06-02-2006, 09:53 PM
Should I run Sust for 10 weeks, and 500 mg for the first 4 weeks (instead of 2 weeks)?


run sus at 500mgs for all 10 weeks. trust me and if you want to get a little more out of your sus. shoot it every other day.

SinuS
06-05-2006, 03:44 PM
What about if I switch the Sust with Andropen 275 ... it has 2 long testosterone esters ... so I'm thinking to use this (2 ml/week in weeks 1-4, and 1 ml/week in weeks 5-10) ... I kinda don't want to use so much test from the first time .... for the whole 10 weeks!

What do you say?