View Full Version : Cutting/speed for first timer
skorp
06-01-2006, 11:28 PM
Hey,
Im intrested in losing so small weight off my chest and stomach, which i havent been able to get rid of for years now. I train hard in martial arts but wouldnt be doing more than an hour of cardio a day.
I'm intrested in starting cardio soon to go with suplements, basicly :
Want to build mass - at a steady rate, not to fast
and also increase Strenght and Speed.
And lose some weight off chest/stomach.
I have good wil power so any diet suggestions would be great. Not i keen on injectables so please keep that in mind,
Thanks again,
skorp
I'm new at this so go easy on me :)
sTaTic
06-02-2006, 01:02 AM
diet is whats gonna get you to where you want to be. I have a diet I use all the time and it consists of Fish, Water and vegtables. Eat as much of it as you want. Dont count calories and all that. You will loose the extra fat, trust me.
As for gear, I dont recommend using just orals. But if you insist, anavar is a pretty good oral for a beginner. It wont hold water and you wont have to worry about estrogen.
skorp
06-02-2006, 02:49 AM
Can you explain what anavar is and what it does please, will it be taken on its own or along side something else you recommend?
Im intrested in putting some bulk on also,
thanks,
skorp
sTaTic
06-02-2006, 02:57 AM
here's a good read on anavar/OXANDROLONE:
http://www.steroidsprofiles.com/steroid/info/15
If you want some bulk I would have to suggest an injectable like test prop.
Throw in some winny at the end of the cycle for 4 weeks up to your pct
skorp
06-02-2006, 03:52 AM
Well i guess im not 100% against injectables, if they bring better/faster results, could you stick up a few you would sujest.
Thanks alot for this by the way,
skorp
sTaTic
06-02-2006, 06:45 PM
My favorites are Tren, Eq, Masterone. If you want to try test and still lean up, i would suggest test prop but you will have to inj. every other day. Tren wouldn't be wise for a first cycle though.
I would focus on getting rid of the fat you were talking about before trying to bulk up.
Look at some of the cycles put together by alin. He has some good beginner cycles there.
skorp
06-03-2006, 02:02 AM
ok ill look into the premade packs thanks
opusx
06-04-2006, 08:07 AM
Winny inject, or the oral is great for strength/speed. It is used by runners often. I don't compete, but i do martial arts and boxing for hobby. I stick with test, tren, win. thats about all I would use. for a beginner anavar would be good. If you take the time to learn everything about AAS and ancillary's and really go about this the right way I would say Tren ace would be great along with the test prop. You would do them both eod. Tren can have sides be rough on kidneys etc. so that is why I say you need to really know what you are doing if you use that in your first cycle. If you have self control with diet though statics diet will really lose the weight you are talking about. I want to do it myself but I love sweets too much.
Hey,
Im intrested in losing so small weight off my chest and stomach, which i havent been able to get rid of for years now. I train hard in martial arts but wouldnt be doing more than an hour of cardio a day.
I'm intrested in starting cardio soon to go with suplements, basicly :
Want to build mass - at a steady rate, not to fast
and also increase Strenght and Speed.
And lose some weight off chest/stomach.
I have good wil power so any diet suggestions would be great. Not i keen on injectables so please keep that in mind,
Thanks again,
skorp
I'm new at this so go easy on me :)
Try a low-moderate carb, high protein diet with plenty of GOOD fats. Whats your weight/height?
skorp
06-10-2006, 06:46 PM
I'm eleven stone, 5' 11"
I hope its normal to be a small bit scared of taking something I dont understand 100%
Is there an in depth break down of these items available? Both good and bad affects?
Thanks,
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