Advice on this cycle

[mustang30]

Hi, this will be my first cycle and I would appreciate some feedback from some people that have some experience with these compounds that I am going to run.

I am 30 yrs of age. 245 lbs. 5'10". Chest: 48 inches. Arms: 16.5 inches. I have been lifting on and off for 5 years. I have always been on the more broad and thick side with a few extra pounds of fat around my belly.

Ok, first things first: After doing some research, I know that need some form of test for any cycle. I still have alot more research to do.

With that being said, all I have right now is turnabol and winstrol 50 mg. With this cycle, I would like to lose some body fat and gain some lean mass.

I am asking for advice on how long to run them? How many mgs. of each? Is it safe to run these two orals together? And what results could I expect from this cycle, if any?

Thank you

[ojs]

Hi, this will be my first cycle and I would appreciate some feedback from some people that have some experience with these compounds that I am going to run.

I am 30 yrs of age. 245 lbs. 5'10". Chest: 48 inches. Arms: 16.5 inches. I have been lifting on and off for 5 years. I have always been on the more broad and thick side with a few extra pounds of fat around my belly.

Ok, first things first: After doing some research, I know that need some form of test for any cycle. I still have alot more research to do.

With that being said, all I have right now is turnabol and winstrol 50 mg. With this cycle, I would like to lose some body fat and gain some lean mass.

I am asking for advice on how long to run them? How many mgs. of each? Is it safe to run these two orals together? And what results could I expect from this cycle, if any?

Thank you

If this isn't a joke, then here's what I would do for a first cycle...

1. I'd work on getting my diet cleaned up. Post yours up and get some help on it.

2. Next I'd get my lifting on a roll. Make sure it's on point for a good 3-6 months.

3. Read up on PCT and first time cycles. There are dozens of great threads in this forum. Use the Search Button above.

4. Once I was leaner, could see the outline of my abs and was actually gaining naturally I'd get on a low dose cycle of Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate only. I think 300mg/wk is plenty for anyone just getting started. But most guys like to start higher like 500mg/wk. They like to bloat up with water and fantasize that the water is muscle gain.

[Invrt]

. They like to bloat up with water and fantasize that the water is muscle gain.

LOL :D:D

[xvvfacevvx]

Man didnt we just talk about this

http://www.alinboard.com/showthread.php?t=29122

Bro, no matter how you spin it AAS isn't the answer right now. You should edit your post and ask something like this.
" Hey Im interested in using AAS sometime in the near future, here are my stats....
Age height weight body fat... I am interested in getting some diet and exercise advice so I can get my body fat down to a good level so I can start a cycle. Thanks!

[mustang30]

Alright, I appreciate your responses and I am actually aware of those issues that were replied back to me. My question was directly related to winstrol and turnabol only. My bodyfat is 17%. I have been lifting for the past 6 months consistontly and my diet is pretty clean. 70% protein consiting with mostly lean meats and tuna. The other 30% of my diet consists of complex carbohydrates such as oatmeal, nuts, and an occassional serving of pasta. I would like to get some people's advice on their personal experiences of the two above listed anabolics. Thank you.

[ojs]

I'm done. Maybe I can find another thread here where someone's actually looking for help. Otherwise, hey it's Saturday. Maybe there's a good movie on.:rolleyes:

[AlwaysBanned]

Hi, this will be my first cycle and I would appreciate some feedback from some people that have some experience with these compounds that I am going to run.

I am 30 yrs of age. 245 lbs. 5'10". Chest: 48 inches. Arms: 16.5 inches. I have been lifting on and off for 5 years. I have always been on the more broad and thick side with a few extra pounds of fat around my belly.

Ok, first things first: After doing some research, I know that need some form of test for any cycle. I still have alot more research to do.

With that being said, all I have right now is turnabol and winstrol 50 mg. With this cycle, I would like to lose some body fat and gain some lean mass.

I am asking for advice on how long to run them? How many mgs. of each? Is it safe to run these two orals together? And what results could I expect from this cycle, if any?

Thank you

Holy shit bro....save the orals, get yourself 20ml of Test Cypionate.

Don't be afraid of injections. They are no big deal.

Test Cypionate 500mg a week for ten weeks.

[mustang30]

Thank you for your response. Why do you prefer test c over test e? Is there a little less bloat with test e? And does test c take longer to kick in? Or just plain test is the way to go?

[AlwaysBanned]

Thank you for your response. Why do you prefer test c over test e? Is there a little less bloat with test e? And does test c take longer to kick in? Or just plain test is the way to go?

Test E and Test C are so similar on a molecular level that they are almost identical. The release times are the exact same. I prefer Test Cyp, some prefer Test E. The bloat is the same.

Test is all you need brother. Forget the orals. Save them and you can use the winni on your second cycle alongside some testosterone.

[goldseasy]

You say you know you need some test...

You say your diet is "pretty clean"...

You get great advise from OJS but choose to keep asking for the same question hoping to get the answer you wanna hear...

There's some good minds on the board brotha, all you have to do is listen...

[mustang30]

Ok. I appreciate your responses.

[mustang30]

Thanx for the advice. I will save the winstrol tabs for a cycle when I get the test. It's gonna be a couple of months before I get my hands on test. So I would be courious to know if turnabol alone is even worth running for 6 weeks? When I do get the test, I plan on running test e or c 500 mg. a week for 10 weeks just like alwaysbanned advised. And maybe 50 mg. of winstrol ed, weeks 5 through ten? What would be a good pct for that cycle. Thanx guys.

[henryhairyballs]

i wouldn't run turnabol alone for 6 weeks, thats just me. if this is your first cycle, Do it big and plan it smart. I was on this board not long ago asking for advice and thought i was gonna be hardheaded about what i wanted to do. I first thought of a dbol only cycle, haha whats the use in that. Then I got my hands on sustanon, provimed, dbol, nolvadex. im currently on my 4th week and im glad i took advice from the experts. running test as a base is a MUST for a first cycle. thats just my opinion now. and you asked about a pct, taking proviron (provimed) is an AE that blocks the formation of estrogen and also frees up more of your testosterone, in return, enhances your gains even more along with a hardening effect. Id take that while on cycle, 25-50mgs per day. and for the pct, wait 2-3 weeks after last shot, and take clomid and nolvadex. Clomid to kickstart your natural test back up and nolvadex to inhibit estrogen. thats just my opinions and the experts can reply beneath me. not saying im right, but thats just my input. good luck on your cycle and keep us posted.

my current cycle:
WK 1 - 0.5mL Sustanon/20mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 2 -0.75mL Sustanon/20mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 3 -0.75mL Sustanon/30mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 4 - 1.5mL Sustanon/30mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 5 - 1.5mL Sustanon/20mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 6 - 1.5mL Sustanon/20mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 7 - 1.5mL Sustanon/-------------/25mg Proviron ED/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 8 - 1.5mL Sustanon/-------------/25mg Proviron EOD/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 9 - 1.5mL Sustanon/-------------/25mg Proviron EOD/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 10-1.5mL Sustanon/-------------/25mg Proviron EOD/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 11 -1mL Sustanon/--------------/25mg Proviron EOD/1000mg Milk Thistle
WK 12 -1mL Sustanon/--------------/25mg Proviron EOD/1000mg Milk Thistle

3 weeks after last shot of SUSTANON...PCT

WK 14 - Nolvadex 40mg/Clomid 100mg
WK 15 - Nolvadex 20mg/Clomid 50mg
WK 16 - Nolvadex 20mg/Clomid 50mg