2nd cycle advice needed

[Baited]

Hey everyone this will be my second cycle and I plan on doing EQ, Test E, and Dbol.

Heres the plan:

500mg Test/Week 12-14 weeks
50mg Dbol/Day 4 weeks

and now here is my doseage question on EQ. I read that 400mg is not a lot for EQ and some front load it. So I was thinking of doing 800mg/week for 2 weeks (front load) and then I don't know if i should drop it down to 600 or 400 for the remaining 10(or 12).

Pct is nolva 40/40/20/20

Also I will have more than enough test and eq to run it longer...so I was thinking about a 14 week cycle instead of 12.

Thanks everyone that helps

[jstforme]

as far as front loading goes, i would do 3 or 4 weeks of 800 then drop down to 600 for remainder of the cycle. 2 weeks just isnt enough IMO for eq

[Baited]

thank you for that...any other advice from others as well and their opinions?

also do you think 14 weeks is that much better over a 12 week eq/test-e cycle?
and should i throw in some fast acting test while i'm front loading the eq or just keep it simple since i'll be on dbol as well for the kick start.


so 800mg of eq weeks 1-4
600mg eq weeks 5-14?

3CC is the max for a glute injection correct? or atleast recommended max

because the weeks 1-4 would be 3cc per injection (test+eq)...should i split that up and get more injection spots instead of just glutes? i've only done 1 cc at a time since my first cycle was just test.

Also i only have experience with glute injections but from what i've been reading delts are easy? my friend tried quads for his first cycle and gave up after week 3 (6 injections) because he hit veins half the time and he went to glutes for the remainder. plus he said he had a lot of pain day after injection.

So i'm looking at glutes for the eq and delts for the test since i'll have minimum 1.5cc for eq and only 1cc for test each time i inject.

Also do you think a 14 week break after this is really necessary (i read time on=time off) before another cycle?

[jstforme]

i would definitly do 14 weeks, no need for short estered test in the begining, that is what the dbol is for. back the the eq frontloading, i really dont know waht the purpose is for, it still takes the same ammount of time to kick in so why waste, ya know? i did frontload my eq but i didnt notice any benifits to doing so...whether you do 400mg or 800mg it still is going to take the same ammount of time to kick in IMO. yeah 3cc injection is max, i just do 1.5 twice a week. i wouldnt only do test in in delts and eq in glutes, switch them up. i think that if you do a relatively safe cycle (test+eq) then you dont have to wait exactly 14 weeks before another cycle, but if your doing tren and halo and anadrol cycles just to name a few then yes i would wait a while before next cycle.

[hismadnessty]

Personally, I'd do 14 weeks of Test (500mg/wk) and 12 weeks of Eq (600mg/wk). I've heard of people front loading Eq, but I've never heard of it doing much. I've heard that the diff between 400mg/wk and 600mg/wk is noticeable with Eq but concentrations higher than that have diminishing returns. If I were you I'd stick to the 600mg/week from the start and save the Eq to extend the cycle or use later.

[Baited]

thank you everyone for the help.

I looked around and i too read that 800mg isnt that much more effective over 600mg so it is pretty much wasted.

So i decided on 600mg eq week for 14 weeks.

Complete cycle will be:

50mg Dbol/day weeks 1-4
500mg Test-E weeks 1-14
600mg EQ weeks 1-14

PCT: Nolva 40mg/day weeks 1-2
Nolva 20mg/day weeks 3-4

Hismadnesty: Is there any reason why you suggested only 12 weeks of eq and 14 weeks of test e? I thought they were both similar in their ester length and would clear around the same time...is eq that much longer?


Also one last question... are Naps the best dbols Alin has? I read that somewhere but i was going to get BD because they come in 50mg...but if Naps are the best i have no problem taking 10 tabs :)

[jstforme]

boldenone ester is longer than enanthate, i forgot exactly but more than a few days, and seemed even longer than that once being used but this is my first eq cycle so hopefully it will kick in faster on next cycles. napoism is one of those "OG" brands, that you cant go wrong with but i can certainly vouch for BD, great gains are easily made. seems like the napoism your buying a lot of the proven track record that comes with the brand name.

[hismadnessty]

Equipoise will cause a suppression of your hormones, such as endogenous testosterone, which is why they suggest you take it w/ test. I've always been told to take the test longer than the Eq. A lot of people take them for an equal amount of time, which I'm sure works fine, but i prefer not to mess with it.

[Baited]

Equipoise will cause a suppression of your hormones, such as endogenous testosterone, which is why they suggest you take it w/ test. I've always been told to take the test longer than the Eq. A lot of people take them for an equal amount of time, which I'm sure works fine, but i prefer not to mess with it.

Fair enough...thank you both for the help I really appreciate it.

I think i'll stick with the naps and look into eq cycles some more...see what others have done etc...

I'm not going to do this cycle for another 6 weeks but I'm ordering in a week while i have extra funds :)

[jimmyfield77]

whats it mean when you frontload something

[jstforme]

whats it mean when you frontload something

you are trying to compensate for the long acting ester by either upping the dose at the begining or taking a short acting AAS untill it kicks in. example: running dbol first 3 weeks of a test enanthate cycle. you wont frontload test propotionate or suspension because of props short ester and suspensions no ester. or running 750mg test then backing down to 500mg at week 3 although the ester is what determines when the substance will kick in, not the dose ammount so I believe this method does not work.