Sustanon & DBOL STACK

[henryhairyballs]

WK 1 - 0.5mL Sustanon/20mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/2000mg Milk Thistle
WK 2 - 0.5mL Sustanon/20mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/2000mg Milk Thistle
WK 3 - 1mL Sustanon/30mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/2000mg Milk Thistle
WK 4 - 1mL Sustanon/30mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/2000mg Milk Thistle
WK 5 - 1mL Sustanon/20mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/2000mg Milk Thistle
WK 6 - 1mL Sustanon/20mg DBOL ED/25mg Proviron ED/2000mg Milk Thistle
WK 7 - 0.5mL Sustanon/--------------/25mg Proviron ED/2000mg Milk Thistle
WK 8 - 0.5mL Sustanon/--------------/25mg Proviron ED/2000mg Milk Thistle

3 weeks after last shot of SUSTANON.. PCT

Nolvadex 60mg- day 1
Nolvadex 40mg- dAYS 2-10
Nolvadex 20mg- days 11-21

opinions??:confused:

[hcube]

if you like novla it looks good, but you should change to:

PCT
Nolvadex 60mg- day 1
Nolvadex 40mg- dAYS 2-11
Nolvadex 20mg- days 12-21

imho

oh yes, and why do you trottle up sustanon? the slow esters from week 1 will kick in during week 3 and 4 so you will have a double shock during week 3, first by the doubling in the dosage and then by the slow esters coming up. Run at the same dosage all the way but trottle down before PCT (this seems more common so I will not argue with that).

:D

[henryhairyballs]

ok, i throttled up the sustanon because all i have is 6mLs of it.. just made it enuf to stretch to 8 weeks with a moderate dose. im 5'6'' 158lbs, first cycle

[AlwaysBanned]

6ml of sustanon is not enough for a cycle. Wait until you have enough test to run at a standard dose for ten weeks.

Don't do this half ass. This is your first cycle and your biggest chance for gains.

[xvvfacevvx]

Big bump^

[dojoshark]

I'm just thinking in terms of mgs......... .5 mil would be 125mgs per week and then at 1 mil you would be taking 250mgs per week. Based on what I read on this board that would be below the standard of 500mgs per week for a cycle.

[henryhairyballs]

people people people, many have made great gains off pyramiding it from 0.5mL to 1mL. Im only 158lbs, never did any anabolic in my life, i have 2 weeks 0.5mL, 4 weeks 1mL, and last 2 weeks of 0.5mL. That equals 6mL. So you guys are saying that this is a complete waste? and that 125mg a week is just a bogus dose and i wouldnt notice anything?

[SHORTSTOP]

honestly i usually like to preach low doses but IMO especially sust ur gonna do a half ml a week for what?? u have 6ml for a cycle?? listen if your wanna get your feet wet y dont u just jump in. will u make some gains with this, yes i think u will see something but again IMO i would not shut my system down for this. your gonna be dissapointed i betcha! i can tell by your pic u seem to have some sound training and your diet in check. i would get some test e or c and run 400mg a week for ten weeks thats a mild cycle and well worth it and your gonna like the results alot better. post some stats anyways i like to see your age how old r u??

[johnurse]

bump. your gunna be shutting down so you can run a TRT? those dosages will give you NORMAL amounts of test in your system...people here are just trying to look out for you, although it seems harsh somtimes

[henryhairyballs]

IM 5'6'', 158LBS, NEVER DONE A CYCLE, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST, LOW BODY FAT, HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THO. AGE- 20YRS ALMOST 21... YES IM YOUNG.. HOW WOULD IT SHUT ME DOWN THO? CANT I TAKE A TEST BOOST WHEN IM OFF WITH THE NOLVADEX? dOES IT HAVE TO BE CLOMID OR hcg?

[johnurse]

yes you could take clomid and hcg, but the main thing im thinking is your dose will = normal testosterone ranges, so why shut down your natural test to take a dose thats about natural levels? if you wait till you have a little more test you could bump up your test so that youd be above natural levels...the cycle you have proposed though seems like a waste of your resources and a waste of your first cycle as always banned was trying to tell you...your first cycle should be somthing special lol like loosing your virginity because you will never get your first cycle back...you were able to afford proviron and can buy clomid and hcg so why not just order a few more ml's of test? it will make a world of difference

[dojoshark]

Agree bro......wish I had this kind of feedback and knew about this board for my first cycle. But my second wasn't too bad :D

PS Pay attention to PCT protocols :cool:

[AlwaysBanned]

IM 5'6'', 158LBS, NEVER DONE A CYCLE, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST, LOW BODY FAT, HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THO. AGE- 20YRS ALMOST 21... YES IM YOUNG.. HOW WOULD IT SHUT ME DOWN THO? CANT I TAKE A TEST BOOST WHEN IM OFF WITH THE NOLVADEX? dOES IT HAVE TO BE CLOMID OR hcg?

You need clomid, yes...in my opinion clomid is far more important than the nolva

You need 20ml of the test you will be running to do a proper first cycle. If I were you, I wouldn't put a thing in my body until I had the gear to do it right.

What johnurse said about losing your gear virginity and you only have one first time....it's true. You absolutely want to do it right your first time. He is also right about the dosages equaling your natural test. You have somewhere around 100mg in your body naturally. Why shut yourself down to equal what you already have in you? Get it? If you are going to shut yourself down--do so by rushing your body with a huge surge of testosterone which will "shock" your body into explosive growth!

125mg a week is not a completely bogus dose, you would notice a bit of strength gains and maybe a little size, but then you wasted your first time by doing a sub par dose.

I can't stress enough how different the first cycle is than any other cycle. It is your BIGGEST chance for gains. Do it right.

[henryhairyballs]

ok guys thanks, i really appreciate tha input. I do not wanna waste a first time. I see that you said 100mg of test is in your body naturally, and if i added 125mg more a week, that would take it to 225mg, then the dbol also increases it more.. so I see i will make gains but i need to do it big the first time as you are saying lol. Thank you for all the help. Keep posting other options for me to keep this thread goin.

[henryhairyballs]

oh and if you could ALWAYSBANNDED, find the site that says stuff about how much testosterone a male has naturally in his system. I'm very curious into reading more about that. Seems interesting to research. THanks

[smallone]

No it's not you inject 125 mg and that adds to your natural test. You will lose your natural test of 100mg and be injecting 125mg for a 25mg increase in test. Roughly. Based off averages and such. What john was saying is since you will shut down your natural test production from injecting sust you might as well do a good cycle of a couple hundred mgs. 300-500 seems to be the lower to moderate range. Save the money and get more gear.

[henryhairyballs]

Ok ok I gotcha now. Thank u

[smallone]

Henry you should go read the newbs A-Z thread man. I can tell from your post you really dont know as much as you might think you do. I'm not being an asshole, I'm a newb to for the most part, but if you dont know taking test will shut down your natural test, and you cant find literature with the humans natural test range on it, you got a lot of learning to do man. Also research your growth plates and see if you like them or still want to use them. Taking AAS to soon is worse than small nuts.

[johnurse]

Ok ok I gotcha now. Thank u

do you? you just posted this in another thread
"ya man i got dbol 10mgs. been on it 2 days and ive noticed a great pump... well that could be the sust im stackin it with. haha but ive heard about their stuff bein crap.. I SURE HOPE NOT! KEEP POSTING BOUT THE GAINS FROM IT! Im curious to hear!"
WTF? did you listen to anyone? nobody here is trying to keep you down just trying to help you but you seem to want to mess up your first cycle on purpose? IMO your gunna loose any gains you MAY get because your to stubborn to do a proper cycle with a proper pct

[drob29]

Henry you should go read the newbs A-Z thread man. I can tell from your post you really dont know as much as you might think you do. I'm not being an asshole, I'm a newb to for the most part, but if you dont know taking test will shut down your natural test, and you cant find literature with the humans natural test range on it, you got a lot of learning to do man. Also research your growth plates and see if you like them or still want to use them. Taking AAS to soon is worse than small nuts.

BUMP

do you? you just posted this in another thread
"ya man i got dbol 10mgs. been on it 2 days and ive noticed a great pump... well that could be the sust im stackin it with. haha but ive heard about their stuff bein crap.. I SURE HOPE NOT! KEEP POSTING BOUT THE GAINS FROM IT! Im curious to hear!"
WTF? did you listen to anyone? nobody here is trying to keep you down just trying to help you but you seem to want to mess up your first cycle on purpose? IMO your gunna loose any gains you MAY get because your to stubborn to do a proper cycle with a proper pct

John, great job bro. Nice:cool:

Henry you need to read about what your doing. You dont seem to have taken any advice given, you are running a foolish cycle, you dont have enough test, and you dont have any PCT.

But seems like you got ti pretty much figured out, huh?

[henryhairyballs]

i bought and extra 5 mLs of sust and clomid is on the way... thank u very much!

[countryboyWVU]

U need to listen to what people are saying to you, ur wasting your time with low dosage, and shutting your body down with about the same amount of test u would produce natty. Dont post threads and not listen to what the experienced have to say.

[countryboyWVU]

another person who posts a thread asking for advice, when he already knows it all. What a waste

[johnurse]

at least he got clomid lol...its to bad though, he looks like hes made good gains naturaly, and a realy good first cycle would be beastly for henry i think, maybe when hes had a couple cycles he will wish he planned his first cycle better instead of jumping the gun...well good luck on your cycle, i hope you get the gains you were looking for...peace

[AlwaysBanned]

i bought and extra 5 mLs of sust and clomid is on the way... thank u very much!

You really need a total of 20ml sustanon for a proper cycle, but best of luck to you with what you have. I would go back and read this thread from beginning to end once again and try to soak it up, bro. We are all telling you the same thing, more or less...

[henryhairyballs]

okay jeez.. i kno u guys are tryin to help. I really appreciate it. I started the cycle already cause i found more sust from a local source. now i can take 1mL (250mg) a week. I AM NOT GOING OVER THAT. That is a base dosage and many have gotten results. I ordered clomid, it should be here in 2 weeks. i still got 8 weeks left until the end of my cycle. So i dont see what the big deal is. Being young is bad. but people are going to do what they want no matter what. Apparnetly I proved that. But at least i took the advice on the sust dosage, and the clomid. thats all yall asked me to do. other than doin biweekly inj of sust (500mg/week). Thats a bit too much in my opinion. So just to get things clear. Yall aint doin nuthin rong, i thank yall for the help. I really do. i will keep u posted on the gains i get. And hey, next cycle, ima research much earlier and let yall help. I dont even kno u guys, but i gota have trust in the experienced. Yall obviously care about a stranger fudgin up his first cycle so that shows me yall are here to help and not flame me. lets take tha critisism down a notch and talk about other things during this cycle. Diet.. length of workout... (currently doing a HST program) FREAKIN PUMPS... and if i have any problems, you guys are the first ones i ask. I posted tha old cycle on other boards to see what others would say and they just flamed me for bein in my early 20s. once again, thank you. NEXT POST BELOW PLEASE lol

[DTownDandy]

250mgs of sus once a week will keep you at that little girl size.

I guess your glad to have a body of a woman.


This is one of the shittiest cycles I have seen on my time here at Alinboard.

Bump Countryboy, what a waste bro........

[AlwaysBanned]

LOL^^^you got flamed a bit, hairy balls! You got a better physique than me and Ive run 5 cycles, so your genetics are suited well for growth.

250 is enough to see results, but you are cheating yourself in my opinion.

However, you are going to do what you are going to do.

Sustanon and Dbol can be a great stack, but you must maintain steady levels of the compounds in your body. Whatever your dosages are (you have changed them so many times Ive lost count), just keep them steady, train hard, get enough rest, and eat like you have never eaten. Meats, dairy, and carbs, bro...

[henryhairyballs]

Thanks alwaysbanned. I am gona keep em steady. No listenin to tha negativity above bout lil girl size. We will jus c wat happens. Don't wana overdo it my first time. I've gained 3lbs in 4 days so far. Crazy appetite. Great pumps. Can't wait til everything kicks n fullforce bout midcycle.

[DTownDandy]

Thanks alwaysbanned. I am gona keep em steady. No listenin to tha negativity above bout lil girl size. We will jus c wat happens. Don't wana overdo it my first time. I've gained 3lbs in 4 days so far. Crazy appetite. Great pumps. Can't wait til everything kicks n fullforce bout midcycle.

I was just fucking with you bro...Nothing wrong with a small dose to see how you react. Gaining those 3lbs is not related to the AAS though, unless its all water.

Goodluck and keep us posted with pics.

[henryhairyballs]

Its kool. Ya I kno. That proviron helps prevent the bloat. Many say taking the proviron with other stuff increases the effects of it. It helps more of the free testosterone be available, therefore raising the levels even more. Or making wat ur taking more potent. I will find out though. I will be satisfied with 15lbs of muscle at the end so that's my goal. I'd love 30 but ill take wat I can get. Haha

[smallone]

There is no way you will get 30 and I think 15 lbs is a best cased scenario. I dont have experience with sus and test like that so I dont know what your results will be but at 250 mg a wk it seems like 5-10 lbs is what you should keep. For you experinced guys is that a good guess?

Just remember it is harder to keep it after cycle then gain it on. I have to eat more now to keep my gains then I did on cycle to get them. Good luck man. I will say it is good to see someone keeping low doses and a simple cycle for the first time. Better than when people post a cycle with 5 substances with high doses.

[dojoshark]

I'm starting sus at 500mg per week and think it may be too little.....feel like going with 750mg :confused:

[henryhairyballs]

haha damn dojoshark, beasty. lol, well we can just see wat happens. ima be a labrat with this low dose stuff, and see what happens with tha badanus hst program

[henryhairyballs]

hey guys, go check out my other thread about my cycle... its showing my progress throughout it... thanks and let me know what yall think of the pix

[henryhairyballs]

the thread title is...

D-Bol/Sustanon/Proviron/Nolvadex cycle

[Invrt]

the thread title is...

D-Bol/Sustanon/Proviron/Nolvadex cycle

Here's the link;)

http://alinboard.com/showthread.php?t=28896

[henryhairyballs]

damn i was an idiot. lol I ended up doin 500mg a week of sust and 30mg dbol for 6 weeks. and full pct of nolva and clomid.. also added test e in the middle of the cycle @ 100mg extra a week... so i did listen to the advice after all... i wish people could slap you from the computer screen.. i was bein a puss lol

[Jello]

damn i was an idiot. lol I ended up doin 500mg a week of sust and 30mg dbol for 6 weeks. and full pct of nolva and clomid.. also added test e in the middle of the cycle @ 100mg extra a week... so i did listen to the advice after all... i wish people could slap you from the computer screen.. i was bein a puss lol

If we could we would:D

Fortunately some people do listen and learn, others just think we are being assholes and don't listen.

[henryhairyballs]

Hahaha classic. I love it.

[AlwaysBanned]

Henry, you ran a fucked up cycle, that is for sure. :D

If you look back at your cycle threads, I repeatedly told you that your cycle was a piece of shit. :p

Just imagine your potential with a cycle of prop and npp at 100mg eod. The sky is the limit bro.

Try short esters. You won't go back to Shitstanon.

[Invrt]

Henry, you ran a fucked up cycle, that is for sure. :D

If you look back at your cycle threads, I repeatedly told you that your cycle was a piece of shit. :p

Just imagine your potential with a cycle of prop and npp at 100mg eod. The sky is the limit bro.

Try short esters. You won't go back to Shitstanon.

~solid~