Synthol , Best Method For Injecting, And Info Needed...

[bmoore]

Iam going to give SYNTHOL a try, ive heard alot of people say that a person can get really good gains in the arms and chest in a short amount of time by injecting directly into these muscles, IS THIS TRUE ???

Also what part of the arms and chest is the safest part to inject, ive heard there are nerves to watch out for, and what is the best dosage and methods to use, and while a person is on a cycle, will it effect my current cycle.

what are the best sites to buy from, ive noticed that they say for topical use only, but ive heard people injecting this into thier muscles..

please let me know

thank you
Brian

[Alin]

Iam going to give SYNTHOL a try, ive heard alot of people say that a person can get really good gains in the arms and chest in a short amount of time by injecting directly into these muscles, IS THIS TRUE ???

Also what part of the arms and chest is the safest part to inject, ive heard there are nerves to watch out for, and what is the best dosage and methods to use, and while a person is on a cycle, will it effect my current cycle.

what are the best sites to buy from, ive noticed that they say for topical use only, but ive heard people injecting this into thier muscles..

please let me know

thank you
Brian



Syntherol is the best SEO around. Go to www.professionalmuscle.com and look in the articles section for all the info you will need.

[Kaiser]

Iam going to give SYNTHOL a try, ive heard alot of people say that a person can get really good gains in the arms and chest in a short amount of time by injecting directly into these muscles, IS THIS TRUE ???

Also what part of the arms and chest is the safest part to inject, ive heard there are nerves to watch out for, and what is the best dosage and methods to use, and while a person is on a cycle, will it effect my current cycle.

what are the best sites to buy from, ive noticed that they say for topical use only, but ive heard people injecting this into thier muscles..

please let me know

thank you
Brian

Syntherol is pretty amazing stuff. The best guide out there would hands down be BigA's here:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205

I have been getting incredible gains in the Bis from following his guide. I don't go all the way to 3ccs in each muscle head, but I do 1.5ccs in each.

Syntherol is only available from Synthetek as Syntherol is a proprietary blend of SEO, and is hands down the best. Topically it is pretty useless, so injection is the only way. They state for topical use only to allow them to export to other countries, but most of their products are injectable.

You can also follow this guide for all of your injection needs.

http://www.howtodoinjections.com/seoguide.html

[Kaiser]

Damn, you beat me to it Alin...

[bmoore]

i found this site that offers this at a really great price, is this stuff legit, please let me know, its called , and the price is as follows;

Synthol Esik-Clean - 100ml
$ 95.00
pump and posing oil.

has anyone dealt with this, is it a good and legit product ?

thank you
Brian

[rAJJIN]

i found this site that offers this at a really great price, is this stuff legit, please let me know, its called , and the price is as follows;

Synthol Esik-Clean - 100ml
$ 95.00
pump and posing oil.

has anyone dealt with this, is it a good and legit product ?

thank you
Brian



Thats not the One you want.
Get the Syntherol From Synthetek or the "original" pumpnpose synthol from chris clark. Ive tried them all including the stuff you mention
and if it was My money and going into my body Id get the The Syntherol
because I know its Made in a Real" Lab in Australia.

The one you listed above has collogen in it, you want the the one with silica in it.

[bmoore]

and the one ALIN mentioned is the one with SILICA in it ?

Brian

[bmoore]

so who sells the brand with SILICA in it here in the states, Is there a distributor that i can order from, since its classified as a toning oil for external use.

Or do i have to order from Austraila only ?

please let me know

thank you
Brian

[Kaiser]

Yes, the one Alin, Raj and I are talking about is from Synthetek.com. The nice thing about it is it will flow through a 25 guage needle so you wont look like a pin cushion after a week of use. Load the syringe with an 20 guage, switch the pin and shoot with 25 guage.

If you have enough cash, pick yourself up some time release Synthelamin which is injectable B-12 so it will cut down on your bruising if you do tend to bruise at injection sites.

The PH level I have found is so close to mine, I cannot feel the stuff being injected at all. No burn, no nothing which is also a plus if you have to shoot yourself every day.

[Tyrone]

so who sells the brand with SILICA in it here in the states, Is there a distributor that i can order from, since its classified as a toning oil for external use.

Or do i have to order from Austraila only ?

please let me know

thank you
Brian
Dude, go to Pofessionalmuscle and go to Synthetek. Trust these guys. :cool:

[rAJJIN]

so who sells the brand with SILICA in it here in the states, Is there a distributor that i can order from, since its classified as a toning oil for external use.

Or do i have to order from Austraila only ?

please let me know

thank you
Brian



I would order it direct. Its perfectly legal and On the customs approved list.
Infact eveything they sell is legal and Proven to be Very effective products.

[sowrdiezel]

everyone says to use the B12 with the injections to cut down on bruising, how exactly do i do that? should i just mix a cc of B12 in every injection i do or should i just do 1 B12 inject a week?

[Kaiser]

everyone says to use the B12 with the injections to cut down on bruising, how exactly do i do that? should i just mix a cc of B12 in every injection i do or should i just do 1 B12 inject a week?

Depends on the quality of the B12. Synthetek's has an ester that allows it to be time released over a period of up to 7 days so you only have to shoot it 2 times a week. Yes you would shoot it separate if you want my opinion.

[Big A]

i found this site that offers this at a really great price, is this stuff legit, please let me know, its called , and the price is as follows;

Synthol Esik-Clean - 100ml
$ 95.00
pump and posing oil.

has anyone dealt with this, is it a good and legit product ?

thank you
Brian

That is the WORST choice you can have. It's a dirty product, people have had anaphylactic shocks from the dirt in the product, and the makers are scammers/counterfitters - they counterfitted Syntherol and PumpNPose. Dodgy people those!

[Big A]

so who sells the brand with SILICA in it here in the states, Is there a distributor that i can order from, since its classified as a toning oil for external use.

Or do i have to order from Austraila only ?

please let me know

thank you
Brian

www.synthetek.com is the only legitimate place that sells Syntherol. Depending on which shipping method you choose, you can get it as quickly as 2 days. 100% legal and no customs worries as it's registered with US customs.

[Big A]

everyone says to use the B12 with the injections to cut down on bruising, how exactly do i do that? should i just mix a cc of B12 in every injection i do or should i just do 1 B12 inject a week?

A lot of people can become anaemic for various reasons, so they have excessive bruising when injecting. Using inj B-12, fixes that.

Inj B12 use is separate from Syntherol use. If you get Synthelamin which is the best (twice the mcg/ml and timed release), you use 1ml ED for the first week and then 1ml every thrid day. You will also get HUNGRY!

[bmoore]

ive seen some really fucked up pics of people abusing SYNTHOL, But ive seen more good than bad pics of the use of SYNTHOL, LOOK AT THIS GUY, WHAT THE HELL DID HE DO, he looks really weird, what did he do to fuck up his arms, please let me know so that I WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE USING SYNTHOL.
Here is the link to the pics, you might have to paste and copy to view it;



http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=234535&highlight=synthol




thank you
Brian

[rAJJIN]

ive seen some really fucked up pics of people abusing SYNTHOL, But ive seen more good than bad pics of the use of SYNTHOL, LOOK AT THIS GUY, WHAT THE HELL DID HE DO, he looks really weird, what did he do to fuck up his arms, please let me know so that I WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE USING SYNTHOL.
Here is the link to the pics, you might have to paste and copy to view it;



http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=234535&highlight=synthol




thank you
Brian



Hahaha, Naw man thats not synthol..Damn sure not from syntherol.
That looks more like 100ml per day of mct or cooking oil.

It does work and works well, But Looks Nothing like that at all.
If used correctly Its hard to tell its even being used. Muscles are still Hard and will Pop when you flex em.

[bmoore]

all i know is that those arms are very nasty looking, and i do not ever want my arms to look like that, everyone talks about Gregg Valentino, at least his arms look good compared to that guy, know what i mean ?

Brian

[Big A]

ive seen some really fucked up pics of people abusing SYNTHOL, But ive seen more good than bad pics of the use of SYNTHOL, LOOK AT THIS GUY, WHAT THE HELL DID HE DO, he looks really weird, what did he do to fuck up his arms, please let me know so that I WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE USING SYNTHOL.
Here is the link to the pics, you might have to paste and copy to view it;



http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=234535&highlight=synthol




thank you
Brian

Those are implants. It is physiologically impossible to look like that with Syntherol.

People that propagate the myth that is the result of synthol are simply uneducated on the subject.
It's the equivalent of people saying that if you use steroids, your dick will shrivel up, your liver will fall out and you will become a psychopathic murderer.

[bmoore]

Ive used steroids for the last 7 years, never had the side effects people talk about, balls are the same, aliitle bit bigger, liver is good, enzymes are allways where they should be ( with-in reason ), just follow the simple do's and dont's, and i have never had any problems at all.


iam new to synthol, and i want to know the correct procedures on it, thats all.

thank you
Brian

[Big A]

iam new to synthol, and i want to know the correct procedures on it, thats all.

thank you
Brian

Follow my guide to the letter and you will have no problem and you will be ecstatic with the results.

[Patterson]

Hmmm... Proceed with caution with SEO's... I tried it with Syntherol and did not get past day 5 at 1ml per muscle in the biceps/triceps.... Woke up on day 6 and my arms appeared "bruised" from the armpits to my elbows. The doctor explained that the fluid within the facia "blew-out"... Over the week and a half it took for it to go away, it traveled down my arms to my hands, all the while turning from deep purple to brown to green... I had to be treated with blood thinners to prevent blood clots forming and going to my lungs/heart/brain, along with antibiotics. This was only with 1 ml per muscle - not even 1 ml per head...

Watch it the first few days... Now, I was already 21 inches in both arms and was looking to get to 22-23...

[Big A]

Hmmm... Proceed with caution with SEO's... I tried it with Syntherol and did not get past day 5 at 1ml per muscle in the biceps/triceps.... Woke up on day 6 and my arms appeared "bruised" from the armpits to my elbows. The doctor explained that the fluid within the facia "blew-out"... Over the week and a half it took for it to go away, it traveled down my arms to my hands, all the while turning from deep purple to brown to green... I had to be treated with blood thinners to prevent blood clots forming and going to my lungs/heart/brain, along with antibiotics. This was only with 1 ml per muscle - not even 1 ml per head...

Watch it the first few days... Now, I was already 21 inches in both arms and was looking to get to 22-23...

How can the fluid inside the fascia 'blow out'? If that would be the case, the fascia would rupture (extremely unlikely as it's stonger than tendons) and you would need surgery.

Your post is confusing:
- fluid (the SEO) travelled down to your elbow? That happens when you miss the muscle (common when using needles that are too long and you inject the oil in between the muscle heads).
- bruising happens when you hit a blood vessel. That can always happen, regardless of what you inject
- one big bruise from armpit to elbow? You either massaged too hard and bruised your entire arms (I've seen it before) or you had a minor muscle tear that it's tming coincided with your injections.

Any of your symptoms that you describe would have happened if you injected anything, not just SEO.

[Patterson]

How can the fluid inside the fascia 'blow out'? If that would be the case, the fascia would rupture (extremely unlikely as it's stonger than tendons) and you would need surgery.

Your post is confusing:
- fluid (the SEO) travelled down to your elbow? That happens when you miss the muscle (common when using needles that are too long and you inject the oil in between the muscle heads).
- bruising happens when you hit a blood vessel. That can always happen, regardless of what you inject
- one big bruise from armpit to elbow? You either massaged too hard and bruised your entire arms (I've seen it before) or you had a minor muscle tear that it's tming coincided with your injections.

Any of your symptoms that you describe would have happened if you injected anything, not just SEO.


I'll try to be clearer then. A mixture of SEO and blood "blew-out" (a doctor's statement to me) of the fascia because of too much volume. What looked to be a nasty bruise covering the entire area of the underside of my upper arms (armpit to elbow) gradually gravitated to my forearms and eventually (though in decreasing amounts as my body reabsorbed the stuff) to my hands. They drew a sample of it the day it showed up - oil and blood. The location of the "blow-out" corresponded with the upper and lower injection sites on the inside head of the biceps. I used 25g 5/8 needles (this happened after the first time I used these needles - prior to that I was using 28g monoject insulin hypos...).

Again, to be clear this was not true "bruising" - there was no pain associated with the sites. This was fluid that "leaked" - if you prefer that term - from within the fascia to the surrounding tissue. The doctors jokingly called it "stigmata"...

I had no injuries - no tears, not even a pull to complain of... I just looked like a burn victim... Remember Mikhail Gorbachev’s forehead? That’s what the inside of my upper arms looked like for 10 days…

Now, I have to say I let the MD's at Methodist Sports Medicine in Indianapolis read your often cited "post" on SEO's... It drew quite a few laughs. They'd love to see these MRI's showing how muscle replaces oil. I've also forwarded your "diagnosis" above to the two partners there who saw me when I came in with this condition - they'd like to know where you received your degree in medicine...

I don't like being an asshole about this. My post was simply "proceed with caution" and nothing more - because I had what I would honestly call an alarming experience with a fairly small amount of this stuff. I've been buying gear from Alin for some time now and feel I can say without conviction that what he sells is top-shelf. My gear of choice from him has been the Stealth Tren-En and Test-En. I know how to use it, I know how to do an injection, have never hit a vein, blood vessel, or nerve or missed a muscle... I know how to start a cycle and more importantly I know how to end a cycle. I get blood work-ups regularly to see where my body is in tolerating the general abuse I throw at it - internally and externally... In general I would not call myself an idiot when it comes to this kind of thing, until now… I bit a little harder on your info about SEO's than was probably wise and am now sitting on 5 unopened 100ml bottles...

If some can use it without problems and are happy with the results, then more power to them. It does not work for me. Hell, I cannot even tolerate creatine – upset stomach and nasty tendonitis… As I usually recommend to others to do, I’ll stick with what works for me…

I'll stick with working hard, eating right, getting the right amount of sleep, and cycling the tren-test a couple times a year. That has given me real 21 inch arms and a raw 540lb bench with a 3-count pause at the bottom... Nothing to poke a stick at...

[da-sol]

ive seen some really fucked up pics of people abusing SYNTHOL, But ive seen more good than bad pics of the use of SYNTHOL, LOOK AT THIS GUY, WHAT THE HELL DID HE DO, he looks really weird, what did he do to fuck up his arms, please let me know so that I WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE USING SYNTHOL.
Here is the link to the pics, you might have to paste and copy to view it;



http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=234535&highlight=synthol




thank you
Brian

That is some nasty looking arms.

[da-sol]

ive seen some really fucked up pics of people abusing SYNTHOL, But ive seen more good than bad pics of the use of SYNTHOL, LOOK AT THIS GUY, WHAT THE HELL DID HE DO, he looks really weird, what did he do to fuck up his arms, please let me know so that I WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE USING SYNTHOL.
Here is the link to the pics, you might have to paste and copy to view it;



http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=234535&highlight=synthol




thank you
Brian


Looks like he injected crystal oil and got a fucked up doc to give him bad implants.

[Big A]

I'll try to be clearer then. A mixture of SEO and blood "blew-out" (a doctor's statement to me) of the fascia because of too much volume. What looked to be a nasty bruise covering the entire area of the underside of my upper arms (armpit to elbow) gradually gravitated to my forearms and eventually (though in decreasing amounts as my body reabsorbed the stuff) to my hands. They drew a sample of it the day it showed up - oil and blood. The location of the "blow-out" corresponded with the upper and lower injection sites on the inside head of the biceps. I used 25g 5/8 needles (this happened after the first time I used these needles - prior to that I was using 28g monoject insulin hypos...).

Again, to be clear this was not true "bruising" - there was no pain associated with the sites. This was fluid that "leaked" - if you prefer that term - from within the fascia to the surrounding tissue. The doctors jokingly called it "stigmata"...

The only way I could see this happen is if the oil would have leaked back thought he hole made by the needle in the fascia. But that should seal pretty much straight away after the injection. Also, you would have had to hit a vein as well to get the blood to 'leak' out.
Fascia tearing woudl require urgent medical attention I would think, not being taken so lightly as it seems those docs would have reacted as. And why would the fascia tear? It is an incredibly strong tissue.


I had no injuries - no tears, not even a pull to complain of... I just looked like a burn victim... Remember Mikhail Gorbachev’s forehead? That’s what the inside of my upper arms looked like for 10 days…

Well, that rules out the injuries. I can't think of what would have caused your symptoms as I have never heard of it before.


Now, I have to say I let the MD's at Methodist Sports Medicine in Indianapolis read your often cited "post" on SEO's... It drew quite a few laughs. They'd love to see these MRI's showing how muscle replaces oil. I've also forwarded your "diagnosis" above to the two partners there who saw me when I came in with this condition - they'd like to know where you received your degree in medicine...

They obviously have trouble understanding some basic text that is written in the article.
Lets spell it out as if we are dealing with 4 year old children. I actually have to do that quite often when I do lectures for doctors and pharmacists regarding hormone manipulation.
- fascia is a major restrictive factor of muscle growth
- Syntherol stretches the fascia, making it more pliable
- once the oil dissipates, the fascia still remains pliable for some time
- if one is in a proper anabolic environment (resistance training, exogenous hormones, adequeate nutrients and rest) the muscle will grow MUCH easier due to the more pliable fascia. End result is that the original size achieved with the oil will be achieved with real muscle tissue.

BTW, one doesn't need a medical degree to know what they are talking about. As mentioned before, I lecture medical people on hormone manipulation.
Just like my current record in the Supreme Court is 100%. I do Supreme court trials for fun even though I am not a lawyer. It's a hobby of mine, and I have yet to lose a trial.

Your docs sound like text book nerds with superiority complexes. Just because they were able to memorise text books, doesn't make them intelligent. I am happy to debate them on these subjects at any time.

Regarding the MRI's - what don't they believe about them? That the oil dissipated after a few months and there is only muscle tissue in there? :rolleyes:

[sammarbella]

...Now, I have to say I let the MD's at Methodist Sports Medicine in Indianapolis read your often cited "post" on SEO's... It drew quite a few laughs. They'd love to see these MRI's showing how muscle replaces oil. I've also forwarded your "diagnosis" above to the two partners there who saw me when I came in with this condition - they'd like to know where you received your degree in medicine...

Yeah this medical attitude is normal when they can't prove other people are wrong (when something is NOT in their books), they simply laugh like young girls looking a big hard dick.

Some people think that a title grade made them smarter, a stupid with a title is simply that...a stupid who has a title, you can have 3 degrees and be an idiotic or haven't any one and be very smart.

This is a common mistake. :)

What is supposed to replace oil after it dissapears?Air?:rolleyes:

I found the most idiotic quotes i heard in my life at doctors office.

I rememeber the last time i go to my doctor to get a prescription for an antibiotic to solve a problem from an injection abcess in one shoulder, i was VERY ripped, he could even see striations and veins over my shoulders.

Do you know his "expert" conclusion?

-"OH! You must have a problem with cellulitis on this shoulder!, get this antibiotic for it!"

I left him silently (i made a HUGE effort to don't laught in his face) very impressed with his HUGE knowdledge! :cool:

I had more wise doctors advices like this one in my life but i'm sure you get the wave.

Your "wise" doctors must be soooo smart than these ones:

http://www.oncolink.com/resources/article.cfm?c=3&s=8&ss=23&Year=2001&Month=1&id=1001

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French regulatory agency concerned that creatine use could lead to cancer
Last Updated: 2001-01-25 12:50:41 EST (Reuters Health) - Creatine, a dietary supplement used by many athletes to increase muscle bulk, might increase the risk of cancer, a French government agency said Wednesday.

The French Agency of Medical Security for Food (AFSSA) said in a report published on its Web site that the use of creatine "constitutes a risk that has not been sufficiently evaluated, particularly in the long term."

The report said that there is a "potential carcinogenic risk" for users of the product, which is sold over the counter in many countries and is not banned by the International Olympic Committee. It is often described as a "legal steroid."

The AFSSA report quoted epidemiologic evidence that creatine use is associated with "digestive, muscular and cardiovascular problems."

The report also said that the use of creatine should be regarded "as contrary to the rules, spirit and significance of sport" and suggested that consideration should be given to its being added to the list of banned products.

Former French rugby coach Pierre Berbizier created a storm last month when he said the use of creatine was common in the French championship. The dietary supplement has been used by many leading athletes, including French tennis player Mary Pierce and baseball player Mark McGwire.

The sale of creatine is banned in France, and it is also banned by the French Rugby Union.

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Yeah!Muscular problems...Creatine leads to bigger muscles!What a discover!

French rugby players are creatine druggies!LMAO

Don't believe all doctors advices as writed stones...sometimes they are blinded (and enclosed) by their degrees...

Just my non-degree opinion...:D

[sammarbella]

Upsss!

Big A posted while i was doing my post!

We have similar view points about some doctors "open minded" and "wise".

[Patterson]

The only way I could see this happen is if the oil would have leaked back thought he hole made by the needle in the fascia. But that should seal pretty much straight away after the injection. Also, you would have had to hit a vein as well to get the blood to 'leak' out.
Fascia tearing woudl require urgent medical attention I would think, not being taken so lightly as it seems those docs would have reacted as. And why would the fascia tear? It is an incredibly strong tissue.


Well, that rules out the injuries. I can't think of what would have caused your symptoms as I have never heard of it before.


They obviously have trouble understanding some basic text that is written in the article.
Lets spell it out as if we are dealing with 4 year old children. I actually have to do that quite often when I do lectures for doctors and pharmacists regarding hormone manipulation.
- fascia is a major restrictive factor of muscle growth
- Syntherol stretches the fascia, making it more pliable
- once the oil dissipates, the fascia still remains pliable for some time
- if one is in a proper anabolic environment (resistance training, exogenous hormones, adequeate nutrients and rest) the muscle will grow MUCH easier due to the more pliable fascia. End result is that the original size achieved with the oil will be achieved with real muscle tissue.

BTW, one doesn't need a medical degree to know what they are talking about. As mentioned before, I lecture medical people on hormone manipulation.
Just like my current record in the Supreme Court is 100%. I do Supreme court trials for fun even though I am not a lawyer. It's a hobby of mine, and I have yet to lose a trial.

Your docs sound like text book nerds with superiority complexes. Just because they were able to memorise text books, doesn't make them intelligent. I am happy to debate them on these subjects at any time.

Regarding the MRI's - what don't they believe about them? That the oil dissipated after a few months and there is only muscle tissue in there? :rolleyes:

I'll grant you a general contempt for doctors. I share that feeling - which I think goes along with being even just competent in any weightlifting sport... 99% of doctors understand zip about nutrition, etc... I do have to say these two particular doctors have been good - identified and fixed a nasty pinched nerve problem for me last year when the "specialists" at Indiana University Hospital wanted to cut me open. These two guys fixed me with traction in 2 weeks as an outpatient... They also have a better understanding of the "pharmacological approach" to our sport. For the sake of their liability, I will leave it at that...

Their first guess was that I had worn a bench shirt and the pressure blew the oil/blood through the weakened fascia at the injection sites. I have a bench shirt but only use it pre-competition and in competition. They agreed it would take a great deal of pressure to do this, and they have seen it with divers and water skiers where suits are too small and bending the joints creates a "pressure balloon". A fresh injection site can create a "valve" where the pressure is relieved... I neglected to mention that they did an ultrasound...

But I only used a total of 4 ml's in the bicep and 4 ml's in the triceps. And it is not like I wrapped the elbow and armpit in duct tape and then did supersets of curls and press-downs... Ah, well... Like I said, some things just don't work for me...