EVERYONE!! Let's get some things str8!!

[Legit8305]

Now I know I'm new to this board, didn't know what I was doing just posting this and that on whatever thread and I apologize. You all obviously know alot more about AAS and stacking more then I do, and I THOUGHT I knew alot already. I knew you had to cycle, didn't know for how long, so I've just been taking one shot every wed. Test one week decca the next. So I have some questions to ask everyone, how long should I cycle decca and test for? And can I load into same pin? Is it bad for my body that I just keep taking my inject. Every week with no rest? And what cycle would everyone suggest for me? I'm 150lbs 5'4 11%BF want to put on around another 50lbs iknow it's alot but obviously I've been doing this wrong....And what about a PCT what should I do because I've on this for about 2 months heavy and never pct before, I just jumpped into it and gained 30 lbs

[superbeast22]

Now I know I'm new to this board, didn't know what I was doing just posting this and that on whatever thread and I apologize. You all obviously know alot more about AAS and stacking more then I do, and I THOUGHT I knew alot already. I knew you had to cycle, didn't know for how long, so I've just been taking one shot every wed. Test one week decca the next. So I have some questions to ask everyone, how long should I cycle decca and test for? And can I load into same pin? Is it bad for my body that I just keep taking my inject. Every week with no rest? And what cycle would everyone suggest for me? I'm 150lbs 5'4 11%BF want to put on around another 50lbs iknow it's alot but obviously I've been doing this wrong....And what about a PCT what should I do because I've on this for about 2 months heavy and never pct before, I just jumpped into it and gained 30 lbs

you need to break things up into paragraphs or something..

You need to cycle for many reasons... gains stop, health issues, and more... You are screwing yourself taking deca one week and test the next, your hormones are like a roller coaster...

i have people take long esters 3 times a week... better stable levels.. no big peaks and valleys. You can mix test and deca no problem, try taking it twice a week.

Should cycle maybe 12 - 14 weeks on that, cut the deca 2 weeks short. you are NOT going to gain 50 lbs on one cycle, sorry bro. maybe 10 if your lucky.

[desertfox]

Now I know I'm new to this board, didn't know what I was doing just posting this and that on whatever thread and I apologize. You all obviously know alot more about AAS and stacking more then I do, and I THOUGHT I knew alot already. I knew you had to cycle, didn't know for how long, so I've just been taking one shot every wed. Test one week decca the next. So I have some questions to ask everyone, how long should I cycle decca and test for? And can I load into same pin? Is it bad for my body that I just keep taking my inject. Every week with no rest? And what cycle would everyone suggest for me? I'm 150lbs 5'4 11%BF want to put on around another 50lbs iknow it's alot but obviously I've been doing this wrong....And what about a PCT what should I do because I've on this for about 2 months heavy and never pct before, I just jumpped into it and gained 30 lbs

Not sure if serious...

[Legit8305]

I know I'm not going to gain 50lbs a cycle, it took me about 4 bottles to gain around 30 pounds with hard workouts and a high protien diet. It's just my local connect is 350lbs and benches over 400 he's been using for about 6 years, he's my brothers ex girlfriends brother, he nver mentioned any of this! Pct , anti est. Cycles. He just said here take it every week.

[jackedntan27]

Now I know I'm new to this board, didn't know what I was doing just posting this and that on whatever thread and I apologize. You all obviously know alot more about AAS and stacking more then I do, and I THOUGHT I knew alot already. I knew you had to cycle, didn't know for how long, so I've just been taking one shot every wed. Test one week decca the next. So I have some questions to ask everyone, how long should I cycle decca and test for? And can I load into same pin? Is it bad for my body that I just keep taking my inject. Every week with no rest? And what cycle would everyone suggest for me? I'm 150lbs 5'4 11%BF want to put on around another 50lbs iknow it's alot but obviously I've been doing this wrong....And what about a PCT what should I do because I've on this for about 2 months heavy and never pct before, I just jumpped into it and gained 30 lbs

I'l let others take this one. Just wanted to clear thing's up that my eyes don't want to believe. So you are taking a shot of test one week then the next a shot of decca then back to a shot of test the following week? Do you know wither or not the test is a longer ester like enanthate or cyp? I'm assuming (hoping) that it is.

Also I feel you have unreal expectations. Everyone thinks there going to hop on roids and magically be a pro BB. And am I correct that you have already gained 30lbs which means you started weighing in at 120?

Man these arn't gi joes that you are playing with, this shit is serious and can ruin your life if misused. Not trying to offend you in anyway but I don't think you had the slightest clue what you were doing when you hopped on, it sounds to me like you were looking for the magical substance.

Best of luck man.

[Legit8305]

Test cyp, and deca. Was 120 now 150. And yeah I kinda just jumped into it.

[jackedntan27]

Test cyp, and deca. Was 120 now 150. And yeah I kinda just jumped into it.

Again not trying to offend in any way just help. How long had you trained before you jumped on this cycle? What would a regular day of water intake, diet, and rest look like for you? What is your routine? Don't you think you could have made the same gains (maybe not as fast) had you just worked on diet and training alone? Also do you realize that if you diet and training is not completely on track you will lose EVERYTHING you have gained, and if you don't get your PCT straight you could actually end up worse then you were before. (imagine having no testosterone and alot of estrogen, you will basically have the hormones of a transvestite)

[Legit8305]

LMAO iknow that's wrong but it's funny. I trained for about 4 years hard. Couldn't bench more then 200 for more then 1 year, 200g of protien a day, more then 8 glasses of water and I think I was at my peak.

[jackedntan27]

LMAO iknow that's wrong but it's funny. I trained for about 4 years hard. Couldn't bench more then 200 for more then 1 year, 200g of protien a day, more then 8 gll
asses of water and I think I was at my peak.

Can you post your current routine so we can help you. Also age unless you prefer not to say age doesn't really matter at this point just would help us tell you what to do next. I don't believe you were at your peak either, correct me if I am wrong but I think you got frustrated (as we all do) and looked for a way out (as I am sure some of us thought about doing at one point, I know I did but I had a big brother to slap sense into me).

[Legit8305]

Well I'm 20 ( my brothers on it too ) lol.
Monday: chest tricepts abs cardio
Tuesday: back bicepts legs
Wednes: shoulders abs cardio,
Thursday. Day off.
repeat

[xvvfacevvx]

Bro you need to stop whatever your doing, and start reading for about a good month on training and nutrition. It seems your just running in circles.

[Legit8305]

Mayb, mayb

[tinom]

Bro you need to stop whatever your doing, and start reading for about a good month on training and nutrition. It seems your just running in circles.

BUMP! Also, IMO your too young to use gear. You could make great gains still natty with proper nutrition and training with a side of dedication and patience.

[Deltoid]

Well I'm 20 ( my brothers on it too ) lol.
Monday: chest tricepts abs cardio
Tuesday: back bicepts legs
Wednes: shoulders abs cardio,
Thursday. Day off.
repeat

The way u'v been using gear hurts my balls just thinkin about!...

If ur only training 3 days a week why don't u split it up Mon - Wed - Fri instead of 3 days straight... and don't forget ur legs bro, train ur legs.

And do some reading man.

[AlwaysBanned]

Quit posting tool threads, legit:rolleyes:

[drob29]

Now I know I'm new to this board, didn't know what I was doing just posting this and that on whatever thread and I apologize. You all obviously know alot more about AAS and stacking more then I do, and I THOUGHT I knew alot already. I knew you had to cycle, didn't know for how long, so I've just been taking one shot every wed. Test one week decca the next. So I have some questions to ask everyone, how long should I cycle decca and test for? And can I load into same pin? Is it bad for my body that I just keep taking my inject. Every week with no rest? And what cycle would everyone suggest for me? I'm 150lbs 5'4 11%BF want to put on around another 50lbs iknow it's alot but obviously I've been doing this wrong....And what about a PCT what should I do because I've on this for about 2 months heavy and never pct before, I just jumpped into it and gained 30 lbs

I know I'm not going to gain 50lbs a cycle, it took me about 4 bottles to gain around 30 pounds with hard workouts and a high protien diet. It's just my local connect is 350lbs and benches over 400 he's been using for about 6 years, he's my brothers ex girlfriends brother, he nver mentioned any of this! Pct , anti est. Cycles. He just said here take it every week.


holy shit. :eek:

well, since he is your brothers ex girlfriends brother (as opposed to his cousin, who we all know not to listen to) I would go back to him and ask about pct and IA's.

Or possibly another member will help you, I just dont have the head for it. Because the way I see it, "you need *alot* of help" and unless you get your shit together soon, your potentially fucked deep and hard in ways you cant comprehend right now.

[Legit8305]

I missed too much!!

[DTownDandy]

Here's my opinion. Stop the deca right now. No more, but stay on a LOW dose of test. I mean like 100mg a week so you don't crash. Next..........

Order Nolvadex, Clomid, Caber RIGHT NOW and prepare to get on PCT.
Pct will be 3-4 weeks

Clomid 100/50/50
Nolva 40/30/20

When you get your PCT, stop the TEST and wait 2 weeks. Then follow PCT protcol.

Read all of the Stickies in the Newbie Section, you will see and learn for yourself what you're doing to your body....and it's not good....

Learn about some diet too.

[Legit8305]

K cool thanks I'll get on it!

[Legit8305]

Im gunna just stop everything, read up, and start from scratch.

[ojs]

Im gunna just stop everything, read up, and start from scratch.

I have a 20 year old I'm training right now. February at 19 years old and 5'7", he was 128lbs and soft. Today he is 164lbs and cut nicely with a 6-Pack showing. He used no steroids at all. Just a good diet and smart training.

If you are serious about gaining, post your diet and I'll help.

[fr8lnr01]

I have a 20 year old I'm training right now. February at 19 years old and 5'7", he was 128lbs and soft. Today he is 164lbs and cut nicely with a 6-Pack showing. He used no steroids at all. Just a good diet and smart training.

If you are serious about gaining, post your diet and I'll help.
I hope legit is not your trainee and forgot to tell you...

[ojs]

I hope legit is not your trainee and forgot to tell you...
Hahaha!!! That would be funny.:D:D:D

[superbeast22]

dude... hes over 300 lbs and only benches 400 lbs? buddy of mine is 250 lbs at 5 10 and benches 500 lbs... shit, i think i can bench close to 400 lbs.. maxing ruins my workout though

[SHORTSTOP]

bump DTD i would dump the deca run low dose test until u can get ready for a proper pct. then i would leave the gear alone for awhile and get some knowledge in ya start reading...........

[Invrt]

I have a 20 year old I'm training right now. February at 19 years old and 5'7", he was 128lbs and soft. Today he is 164lbs and cut nicely with a 6-Pack showing. He used no steroids at all. Just a good diet and smart training.

If you are serious about gaining, post your diet and I'll help.

You better take advantage of this offer you won't get a better offer ever !

dude... hes over 300 lbs and only benches 400 lbs? buddy of mine is 250 lbs at 5 10 and benches 500 lbs... shit, i think i can bench close to 400 lbs.. maxing ruins my workout though

We have a natural powerlifer your size (170) in our gym putting up 350 so you need to set the "natural" bar higher.

Im gunna just stop everything, read up, and start from scratch.

I thought you were a douche' at first but that is one of the smartest things a newby has posted in a long time. Don't go cold turkey though. Go with 250 cyp a week until you can get your PCt stuff from Alin. The stuff is good and now is the best time to order with the holidays. Hang in there and soak up the info. Read the stuff DTD said. I actually switched my work out I had been doing for 20 years after reading BigA's growth principles.

[Alin]

Now I know I'm new to this board, didn't know what I was doing just posting this and that on whatever thread and I apologize. You all obviously know alot more about AAS and stacking more then I do, and I THOUGHT I knew alot already. I knew you had to cycle, didn't know for how long, so I've just been taking one shot every wed. Test one week decca the next. So I have some questions to ask everyone, how long should I cycle decca and test for? And can I load into same pin? Is it bad for my body that I just keep taking my inject. Every week with no rest? And what cycle would everyone suggest for me? I'm 150lbs 5'4 11%BF want to put on around another 50lbs iknow it's alot but obviously I've been doing this wrong....And what about a PCT what should I do because I've on this for about 2 months heavy and never pct before, I just jumpped into it and gained 30 lbs

alot depends on your past experience. 10-12weeks makes a solid cycle.
TEST and DECA can be combined in the same pin for injections.
Tell us more about yourself...age,,,training time etc...

[Legit8305]

Ok so Im off the test, what should I do? Been kinda weak in bed, what's this from?

[lostwars]

you need to break things up into paragraphs or something..

You need to cycle for many reasons... gains stop, health issues, and more... You are screwing yourself taking deca one week and test the next, your hormones are like a roller coaster...

i have people take long esters 3 times a week... better stable levels.. no big peaks and valleys. You can mix test and deca no problem, try taking it twice a week.

Should cycle maybe 12 - 14 weeks on that, cut the deca 2 weeks short. you are NOT going to gain 50 lbs on one cycle, sorry bro. maybe 10 if your lucky.

perfect advise

[Jello]

Ok so Im off the test, what should I do? Been kinda weak in bed, what's this from?

What did you run for PCT?

[OMAR]

Ok so Im off the test, what should I do? Been kinda weak in bed, what's this from?

This is from running a foolish cycle and no PCT.

Why don't you listen to everybody here and post your stats, your diet, your goals and a complete cycle history. There are lot of very knowledgeable people here willing to help you, but they cant until you help them.

Your sex drive issues could of been avoided.

[Legit8305]

What did you run for PCT?

Read the WHOLE thread I didn't have a Pct.

[Legit8305]

This is from running a foolish cycle and no PCT.

Why don't you listen to everybody here and post your stats, your diet, your goals and a complete cycle history. There are lot of very knowledgeable people here willing to help you, but they cant until you help them.

Your sex drive issues could of been avoided.

I didn't know about any of this shit until I joined here so now what am I supposed to do? Some one just give me some advice, am I totaly fucked or what?

[OMAR]

Where are your stats?
Did you read DTown's post #18 on this thread? Did you follow HIS advice? What more do you need. If you would of followed his advice, you might be in better shape today.

You might of fucked up your sex drive for a good long time. It's a shame, because at 20, you (were) at your peak of natural test production. Sounds like you fucked that up pretty good.

[DTownDandy]

Where are your stats?
Did you read DTown's post #18 on this thread? Did you follow HIS advice? What more do you need. If you would of followed his advice, you might be in better shape today.

You might of fucked up your sex drive for a good long time. It's a shame, because at 20, you (were) at your peak of natural test production. Sounds like you fucked that up pretty good.

That advice was from almost 3 weeks ago too.

Legit8305, smarten up. Do you have any test left? Did you order PCT?
If not, hang on for the ride your about to go on!

I suggest you re-read this thread.

[Legit8305]

No test no pct, no $$$$ right now. Now should I run a full cycle anD do my pct or should I just get a pct and do it for now?

[DTownDandy]

No test no pct, no $$$$ right now. Now should I run a full cycle anD do my pct or should I just get a pct and do it for now?

No cycle, PCT ONLY. Can we make it much clearer? Jesus bro......

[Legit8305]

Lol my bad

[Jello]

Read the WHOLE thread I didn't have a Pct.

Sorry, I just assumed that after you were told that many times what to do to come off safely and not have problems you might have actually listened. Guess I shouldn't have given you that much credit.

Now you are asking for help with your problem and still not doing what you were told, this is kind of funny to me:D

[joe4fsu]

I do not know even where to begin...

First: I am 5'4" so I know you more than you would realize...

a) you are too light to do gear
b) you should have done research before sticking test and deca in your body, apoligizing for being a newbie does not get you out of research
c) stop Deca, and did I hear you dont have PCT?
d) if you dont have money or the systems in place to do this write please stop immediately, buy some 6-oxo from GNC, get off, and research
e) you need to be at 168lbs at 12% bf before you consider gear to do this write....

20 years old I highly recommend you wait longer.. I know what you are thinking as I am short as well.. I am not growing anymore so fuck it... but think about it... at twenty I was walking around college with a hard on every day... meaning my natural test levels were so high I focused on creatine, eating, and training.. please consider this as I will not help recommend you gear until you have proven this to me and I hope other educated members will follow suite... good luck...

[Legit8305]

What's 6xox?

[dudcki27]

What's 6xox?

Google it. You've got to do some of the work.

[DTownDandy]

What's 6xox?

jesus christ bro, you must be one of those "short bus" kids.:mad:

What do you not understand about this:

*NO STEROIDS
*RUN PCT NOW
*USE THE SEARCH BUTTON ON THIS SITE OR USE A SEARCH ENGINE LIKE GOOGLE.


My 8 year old daughter is smarter than you. I'm done with this thread because obviously you're an idiot.

[drob29]

ummmm.....well.......

its actually 6-OXO....lol:cool:

[dudcki27]

jesus christ bro, you must be one of those "short bus" kids.:mad:

What do you not understand about this:

*NO STEROIDS
*RUN PCT NOW
*USE THE SEARCH BUTTON ON THIS SITE OR USE A SEARCH ENGINE LIKE GOOGLE.


My 8 year old daughter is smarter than you. I'm done with this thread because obviously you're an idiot.

"short bus" that's good shit man. Lmfao

[superbeast22]

jesus christ bro, you must be one of those "short bus" kids.:mad:

What do you not understand about this:

*NO STEROIDS
*RUN PCT NOW
*USE THE SEARCH BUTTON ON THIS SITE OR USE A SEARCH ENGINE LIKE GOOGLE.

gotta agree with dtown here..

[Jello]

jesus christ bro, you must be one of those "short bus" kids.:mad:

What do you not understand about this:

*NO STEROIDS
*RUN PCT NOW
*USE THE SEARCH BUTTON ON THIS SITE OR USE A SEARCH ENGINE LIKE GOOGLE.


My 8 year old daughter is smarter than you. I'm done with this thread because obviously you're an idiot.

Damn it, why did I have to rep you so recently:D

[hcube]

Here's my opinion. Stop the deca right now. No more, but stay on a LOW dose of test. I mean like 100mg a week so you don't crash. Next..........

Order Nolvadex, Clomid, Caber RIGHT NOW and prepare to get on PCT.
Pct will be 3-4 weeks

Clomid 100/50/50
Nolva 40/30/20

When you get your PCT, stop the TEST and wait 2 weeks. Then follow PCT protcol.

Read all of the Stickies in the Newbie Section, you will see and learn for yourself what you're doing to your body....and it's not good....

Learn about some diet too.

If you "throttle down" your TEST to 100 MG/week you probably can start your PCT after just one week not taking the TEST.

How the PCT should look like is another question. Your guess is probably as good as mine. Everybody seems to react to different componds differently. Especially Novla. Try a well established PCT (like the one suggested by DTD) and then decide for yourself if it worked or not.

[joe4fsu]

For the record, look at my post... I put 6-OXO.. :D

not sure how 6 xox came about :confused::p

[countryboyWVU]

hopeless