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ciscokid
05-25-2006, 04:34 AM
Hello,

I have been lifting for quite some time now. Was born with good size.

This is my first cycle ever. I know alot of people will laugh but I am doing a WINSTROL ONLY cycle.

BD 50mg stanazolol ED for 50 days (7weeks).

My questions are the following.

1. Should I run Nolva with this to prevent gyno? I heard winny aint bad with gyno but thought i would ask.

2. I also got some clomid for PCT. I am thinking about either doing 12 days at 50mg ED or 24 days at 50mg a day for only 12 days. IS 12 days of Clomid enough after a 7 week winny only cycle?

3. Is 50mg of oral winny too much on the liver. I know it is a 17aa.

I was thinking something like this:

Week 1-7 50mg winny oral
week 1-7 3 caps a day of milk thistle
week 8 and 9 50mg of clomid ed for PCT

Not quite sure about Nolva with winny only?

I am just trying to get hard and cut. Not trying to put alot on.

I appreciate any input.

Thanks,

CiscoKid

Tyrone
05-25-2006, 06:39 AM
Hello,

I have been lifting for quite some time now. Was born with good size.

This is my first cycle ever. I know alot of people will laugh but I am doing a WINSTROL ONLY cycle.

BD 50mg stanazolol ED for 50 days (7weeks).

My questions are the following.

1. Should I run Nolva with this to prevent gyno? I heard winny aint bad with gyno but thought i would ask.

2. I also got some clomid for PCT. I am thinking about either doing 12 days at 50mg ED or 24 days at 50mg a day for only 12 days. IS 12 days of Clomid enough after a 7 week winny only cycle?

3. Is 50mg of oral winny too much on the liver. I know it is a 17aa.

I was thinking something like this:

Week 1-7 50mg winny oral
week 1-7 3 caps a day of milk thistle
week 8 and 9 50mg of clomid ed for PCT

Not quite sure about Nolva with winny only?

I am just trying to get hard and cut. Not trying to put alot on.

I appreciate any input.

Thanks,

CiscoKid
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jstforme
05-25-2006, 08:55 AM
i havent done winny yet, but yeah ive heard it dries up your joints so glucosamine would be a good idea. no need for anti's considering that winstrol does not aromatize. since there is also no post cycle aromitization a pct i dont think would be necessary although im sure most people still will do one

arnold jr
05-25-2006, 10:00 AM
i havent done winny yet, but yeah ive heard it dries up your joints so glucosamine would be a good idea. no need for anti's considering that winstrol does not aromatize. since there is also no post cycle aromitization a pct i dont think would be necessary although im sure most people still will do one
He's right, it will cause your joints to ache and glucosamine will help, but it takes about 4wks of steady use for it to kick in...1500mg ed should work well.

As for PCT, I would recommend some nolva because although this is a very mild cycle winny still will shut down natural functions. For that reason you should consider adding in some test...test is king pure and simple.

As for the milk thistle, some may disagree, but studies have shown that taking it while on cycle can have adverse affects on your cycle. Taking it in conjunction with the winny will make the winny less potent. I know you want to protect your liver, but the liver has remarkable recovering capabilities. 6-8wks of an oral like winny will not be a problem for the liver to take care of. I'd recommend holding off on the milk thistle until after your cycle, I'd also recommend maybe going with something like LIV-52 instead.

Arnold jr.

West_Bank
05-25-2006, 09:26 PM
hey man...i started a oral winny cycle of 50mg/ed for 10 weeks about 2 month ago but had to discontinue after 2 weeks due to the joint pain, but everybody's physiology is different. I'm 36 so maybe being an old man was a contributing factor:D, plus doing a lot of cardio. waiting on some aflutop and will try again with the oral winny this winter. good luck.