Gave Gear up.. Now what?

[camarozl1]

I have stopped taking gear and i'm done with it for good.

now is there any supplement out there that can make you feel hard and ripped like juice does?

whats best for poping veins out also?

I have read some stuff bout Phera Plex,but it seems to have to many side effects. were as juice i have never had sides from four years of doing 12week cycles so i'm not even going to mess with prohormones...

[sTaTic]

I have stopped taking gear and i'm done with it for good.

now is there any supplement out there that can make you feel hard and ripped like juice does?

whats best for poping veins out also?

I have read some stuff bout Phera Plex,but it seems to have to many side effects. were as juice i have never had sides from four years of doing 12week cycles so i'm not even going to mess with prohormones...


Ok bro, where to start... I did this for 2 years after being on cycle for 1 year + (not sure exactly how long). I looked for anything and tried everything to get the effects you are looking for. The truth is, there isn't anything. If you have never done gear then some of the supps on the market might seem great like nos and all that other crap out there. Unfortunately, you ventured over to the dark side and you will never look at bb the same as you did before gear. Its the truth. Why do you think I decided to get back on. I will tell you one thing, I dont have the same mind frame as I did before when on cycle. I always wanted to get bigger before. I was 235 at just under 6 foot. about 6-8% bf. To me, I was big but wanted to keep getting bigger. Now I just like to be inbetween 205 and 215. Its easier to maintain and a lot less exspensive in the food department. I dont know what your reasons for stopping are but I wish you the best. Its hard man, not really the physical part of it but the mental part.

[tatteredxangelx]

growht hormon and insulin ... thats all i can think of :confused:

[Kaiser]

growht hormon and insulin ... thats all i can think of :confused:

That is considered gear also.

[camarozl1]

my girl/future wife and the fact we have a baby on the way. i just can't hide this stuff from her anymore so instead of telling her and having her leave me which i know she would !! then i will just stop it all together.

yep i knew there wouldn't be anything on the market,but worth a shot. :(

[mr.nitrofish]

my girl/future wife and the fact we have a baby on the way. i just can't hide this stuff from her anymore so instead of telling her and having her leave me which i know she would !! then i will just stop it all together.

yep i knew there wouldn't be anything on the market,but worth a shot. :(


you'll be surprized, I thought my wife would be pissed too, but when she found my stash, she wasn't mad at all.

but she told me a can't go back on till she gets pregnet. its killing me, but hopefully it happens soon

[OuchThatHurts]

Not near enough info to even tell. You may have started using gear long before you reached your genetic limitations so with creatine and tribulus and compound movements combined with circuit training (like sprints) you could boost your levels and still continue to achieve results.

You'll just have to go back to "try anything natural you can" mentality

It is possible that you stretched your muscles (fascia) and even after you lose some with hard work you could get some back depending on your age.

I've seen guys who started gear at 160 lbs and after a year or two find themselves at 200 but then going off, fall back to 180 which would probably be what you might have expected going natural all along.

Think these guys are right though. No way will you ever feel as full and vascular as you did when you were taking high levels of exogenous test. Once you've gone all the way, everything else seems like half measures.

LOL tatttersx.... pffft... you crack me up... Never in my life have I seen anyone as pro-dope as you... where are those pics? I have to see what all these flights of 19-nor hath wrought.

[bobbyrlg]

BSN NO-XPLODE is about the best supplement I've tried. Great pumps when in gym.

[Rhandhular]

What were your past cycles?

[OuchThatHurts]

What's the deal with Tomcat Alley (Tonkat Ali?)

On another board they were hyping that stuff up pretty good. I'm sometimes leary of these type of supps... you never know. Spring might come and you could start budding or some other crazy shit.

[Alin]

I have stopped taking gear and i'm done with it for good.

now is there any supplement out there that can make you feel hard and ripped like juice does?

whats best for poping veins out also?

I have read some stuff bout Phera Plex,but it seems to have to many side effects. were as juice i have never had sides from four years of doing 12week cycles so i'm not even going to mess with prohormones...


No supplements will work like gear. For some effective supps try creatine, whey, NO2.

[JOEYP]

thats so funny that other people have the same probs as me.... thought my wife would leave me if she found out about the juice...nope all she wants is to get knocked up and im home free

[alan1973]

What's the deal with Tomcat Alley (Tonkat Ali?)

On another board they were hyping that stuff up pretty good. I'm sometimes leary of these type of supps... you never know. Spring might come and you could start budding or some other crazy shit.
stay away from the stuff unless you want to stay on it forever. I heard it can really mess you up when coming off it.

[JohnnyPro]

I tried that Tonkat Ali stuff and didn't notice a thing.

[bod1ggity]

thats so funny that other people have the same probs as me.... thought my wife would leave me if she found out about the juice...nope all she wants is to get knocked up and im home free
hope that you dont mind having a girl...

[Big A]

go to board sponsor www.synthetek.com and check out the injectible products there. As close to gear as you can get while still being natural.