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Steelman213
10-16-2009, 09:02 AM
Ok, so my first cycle was test + dbol....that's it with a solid pct. I kept it simple for the first cycle because that's what I heard was best. Had very good results...put on about 27 lbs. Didn't use hcg because I didn't really find it necessary.
I got horrible back pumps from the dbol though, but the first 4 weeks were when i saw some of the best gains (no surprise). So I'm torn between sticking with the dbol and getting some taurine, which i have read helps, or trying another oral. Suggestions please?
Also my original plan was to do basically the same cycle, but add EQ. But I am wondering if I would see better gains if I went with tren or deca. Has anyone used these enough to offer up an opinion on which would be better? I'm looking for solid mass gains. But the fewer sides i have to deal with the better.
And if I choose the EQ....is it really necessary to run it a minimum of 14 weeks? I've read this several places.
Finally if i decide to just stick with the EQ, will I need hcg? I seemed to recover very well from the last cycle. If I decide to use the tren or deca I will pick some up, but i'm thinking it won't be necessary if I select EQ.
I will appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanx for your help guys.

drob29
10-16-2009, 04:31 PM
full stats please

age
ht
wt
body fat % (guess)
lift history
diet
goals

thanks and welcome to the board

Steelman213
10-16-2009, 05:26 PM
25
5'9"
214
bf% around 10%
been lifting since I was 19
Clean diet, nothing to strict as I'm not dieting for a show or anything....but clean high protein meals 6-7 meals a day.
Goal is to go Pro one day.....(don't give me shit...I know I have a long way to go, but I think I can get there)

0351mang
10-16-2009, 08:33 PM
Test and EQ was my all time favorite. Never tried tren. Deca gave me gyno problems. Get yourself some hcg, test e, eq, and try switching the dbol to anadrol 50mg for the first four weeks. Shower when you wake up and shower after training. This will really help with your acne. This is just basic information. You know that there is a lot more info that everyone on here will tell you.

emt634
10-16-2009, 11:44 PM
25
5'9"
214
bf% around 10%
been lifting since I was 19
Clean diet, nothing to strict as I'm not dieting for a show or anything....but clean high protein meals 6-7 meals a day.
Goal is to go Pro one day.....(don't give me shit...I know I have a long way to go, but I think I can get there)

Theres nothing wrong with big goals bro I wish ya luck. I love test prop and will never use any other ester. My other favorite anabolic is eq it realy helps boost the appitite and vasculaitry. I dont have much experience with any others. If drob helps ya out you should listen he knows his shit.

lostwars
10-17-2009, 06:20 AM
any of the different compounds u seem to be considering will do a solid job, only thing is tren is a slightly harsher aas than any of the others so maybe use the eq or deca this time out
also get into the habit of using the hcg, it will save u anywere from 5-10lbs during youre pct, i also recovered pretty good after my 1st cycle and i didnt use hcg either but the pct those get harder the more cycles u use
deca and tren will shut u down hard so u will need hcg, u could cycle eq for 10-12 wks but the latter would provide more rersults

Steelman213
10-17-2009, 06:48 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate your help. I've thought about using Anadrol, but the sides seem too harsh. I'll probably just stick with Dbol...i'll pick up some taurine this time tho. Hopefully that will help, those back pumps were BRUTAL!
I think it's probably will be best to just stick with the EQ. Tren is obviously pretty harsh, and this is only my 2nd cycle....I'll save that for a future cycle. It's hard not to go after the strongest substances....but I gotta think long-term here. I experienced very nice gains last cycle....with the addition of EQ I should be more than satisfied.
I will use hcg this time out....but I have to say....I lost next to nothing during pct. I dropped a couple lbs and the little bit of "bloat" went away...but other than that it was alot better than I expected. Obviously my strength went down....and I'm alot more tired and it really takes some effort to get into the workout....but aside from that I weigh almost the same as I did a week after my last shot. Is there a reason I haven't lost gains?

Invrt
10-17-2009, 07:15 AM
I will use hcg this time out....but I have to say....I lost next to nothing during pct. I dropped a couple lbs and the little bit of "bloat" went away...but other than that it was alot better than I expected. Obviously my strength went down....and I'm alot more tired and it really takes some effort to get into the workout....but aside from that I weigh almost the same as I did a week after my last shot. Is there a reason I haven't lost gains?

No cycle will be like your first:D

0351mang
10-18-2009, 12:07 AM
Sounds like you're in the right direction. Keep us posted on how the eq cycle works for you.