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twinturboman
05-23-2006, 05:02 AM
I been doing lots of reading and this is my gf first time on a Clen/T3 stack and I wanted to get anyone’s opinion before she starts tomorrow on how I have it spread out for her.
Clen:
20/20/40/40/60/60/80/80/60/60/40/40/20/20 (2 wks -then off for 2 wks)
T3
25/25/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50/50 (2 wks - then off for 2 wks)
She is currently eating right and 45min cardio 6x week.
Does this look good in the dosages for her?
Thx,
TT
jstforme
05-23-2006, 05:18 AM
looks like youve been reading a lot on the internet, nothing wrong with that but it doesnt always tell the best cycles.... your clen is strait with the 2 weeks on 2 off, but i would go as high as i could go (i guess for women its around 80) and keep it there for the whole cycle, when you come back on your next two weeks start at what you left off at (80) and keep it there for the full 2 weeks. the cytomel is best used for 6 weeks strait, i would do something like 12.5 for 3 days, then 25 for 3 days then 37.5 for a few days then 50 and keep it there for the majority of the cycle then taper back down in the same fashon to 12.5mcgs, it is especially important to taper down on cytomel
twinturboman
05-23-2006, 07:02 AM
Ok so more like this then:
Clen
20/20/40/40/60/60/80/80/80/80/80/80/80/80 (14 days) then 2 wk off then back on.
T3 (42days - weeks)
12.5/12.5/12.5/25/25/25/37.5/37.5/37.5/50(for 24 days)/37.5/37.5/37.5/25/25/25/12.5/12.5/12.5
-Thanks for showing me the light
-TT
CountVascular
05-23-2006, 07:54 AM
Jstforme, how much would you increase it for a guy, and is t3 a purdy dangerous kinda thang?? It is starting to give me the heebie jeebies and I havent even received my order yet!!!LOL.
As you say, there is just TOO much info, and it boggles the mind...best to learn from those who do it...Thanks :D
jstforme
05-23-2006, 08:04 AM
Jstforme, how much would you increase it for a guy, and is t3 a purdy dangerous kinda thang?? It is starting to give me the heebie jeebies and I havent even received my order yet!!!LOL.
As you say, there is just TOO much info, and it boggles the mind...best to learn from those who do it...Thanks :D
for a guy..who should be on some type of AAS to help maintain muscle i would do something like 25,50,75,100 and keep it there for most of the 6 week cycle but when coming down go to 75 for about 4 days,50 for 4 days, 25 for 4 days and 12.5 for 4 or 5 days...as you can see the crucial part is coming down...at the end of my first week i was already at max dosage. you can go to 125mcgs but only if necessary
CountVascular
05-23-2006, 08:21 AM
Thanks ace :)
CountVascular
05-23-2006, 08:25 AM
Ok will run my clen for a two week on, two week off cycle, and the t3 as per your suggestion for 6 weeks...Besides the noticble increase in temp, and speedy kinda effect of the Clen, are there any sides to the t3 that lurk behind doors, waitng to pounce on my ass. With the cycle, I am running anavar, for 8 weeks and will add winny for the last six weeks. PCT for 4 weeks there after.......and I hear ya on the reduction to come off....Do you suggest the same reduction on daily amount for the Clen at the end of the cycle, and would you continue with the clen/t3 during PCT, bearing in mind the aas will be gone?
Sound like a safe bet?
As them frenchies say, mercy booooocooop :D
jstforme
05-23-2006, 08:37 AM
no sides on t3 that ive ever noticed. you really dont need a pct for that cycle but you can still do it. i think that is a good safe cycle though, sure to burn some fat (with the cytomel and clenbuterol) come back if you have any more questions..ohhh i almost forgot, most important thing on the cytomel is divide up the doses. i went up to 125mcgs, at that time i was taking one 25mcg tab every 2 hours for 10 hours of the day. each pill is 50mcgs, so cut them in half so you have 25mcg tabs and when your doing your 12.5s just bite them in half. clenbuterol can be taken all together or spread out, i just spread them out with my t3 doses. best thing to use for all of these pills is one of those weekly pill box things. and keep track of what week your on so you dont accidently run out without tapering down. just remember if your going to be gone or at work dont forget to bring your t3, its okay if your a little bit off on your timing but make sure you are getting all of your doses in and not skipping around.
CountVascular
05-23-2006, 08:55 AM
Thanks for the help, you are a star. It is my first time, and have opted for the ag liquid t3 and clen...any experiences????
And this cycle is to lose as much fat as possible...then I is gonna be buggin all for advice on a medium bulking cycle :)
twinturboman
05-23-2006, 09:31 AM
Last question before lift off - is it ok to take t3 and clen at the same time in the morning or should it be taken at separate times?
Thx -
TT
jstforme
05-23-2006, 07:01 PM
ive heard AG is good, havent tried it yet. yes you can take it and clen at the same time in the morning. if your going to be taking t3 four times a day then just spread out your clen so it also is being taken four times a day
CountVascular
05-23-2006, 08:07 PM
Thanks a lot for the great advice.....This here lab rat is gonna be runnin roung Bangkok like a dwag on heat, body temp up
woof woof
sTaTic
05-23-2006, 10:37 PM
I did not write this but it's good stuff about T3. TJ from bolex wrote this:
T3 and the Modern Athlete
By: TJ
So you've decided to use T3 to help you shed fat now that you've read up on it and gotten past the nay Sayers who expound the ills of shutting down your body’s own production of natural thyroid. Wonderful, T3 when used correctly can be a great addition to any diet and cardio plan. Read that again boys and girls, IN ADDITION TO ANY DIET AND CARDIO PLAN!!! If you've turned to T3 because you think it's a magic pill that will allow you to eat like crap and still lose weight you've been listening to the wrong advice. Can you lose weight/fat while using T3 and still eating junk food, unfortunately yes to a degree. I say unfortunately because this fact often leads people to do just that, it starts with a cheat meal that turns to a cheat day, which eventually has the athlete eating whatever and whenever they want and still they lose some weight. So what's wrong with this if the eventual out come, weight loss that is, is reached? The first problem is the weight you are losing may not be fat if your eating like crap, the second is what happens when you stop the T3 cycle and your metabolism is suppressed temporarily, if you were eating sloppy during the T3 usage your most likely to keep following that pattern and the combination of a slow metabolism combined with sloppy eating results in rebound weight gain. So in the end what have you really accomplished outside of being able to eat what you want with out getting any fatter for a month or so? And that's if you’re lucky and the rebound weight gain doesn't push you past your starting weight!!!
Now that I have your attention and you know what NOT to do, let's concentrate on what TO do. Just like any other chemical we find in our arsenal, T3 can and is used in a variety of ways when it comes to dosage and length of cycle, both for cutting and bulking. This article will deal with cutting use only. There are some who prefer to "hit it hard" and go high dosage with a quick taper down at the end losing a great amount of weight in a short time, but this way tends to eat as much muscle as fat in my experience and you end up looking basically the same as when you began, except that you weigh less and are smaller. There are those who like to use the same dosage throughout the cycle with no taper up or down figuring if your metabolism is going to be sluggish anyhow why waste the days using it at a low dosage when you could be burning more fat on those days. Then there are those who slowly taper up, maintain the highest dosage for a set time and then slowly taper down. It's the last group I'll concentrate on here, as this is the system that has shown it's best overall results with those I've worked with.
Let's start with the dosage, T3 is a very individual drug, when it comes to dosage I've seen guys use as high as 250-300mcg/day and others as low as 25mcg/day where both athletes lost fat and reached their goals. As a rule I start everyone (and for now I'm dealing with men I'll pen an article on women’s usage in the future) at 25mcg/day. I usually base the time of the cycle on their individual weight loss goals, if it's a smaller amount I'll go 3 weeks tops, if it's a lot of weight to lose we'll go 4, 5 and sometimes 6 weeks. I generally don’t go over 6 weeks with anyone, as T3 tends to stop working in most people after that amount of time. I’d rather they run 4 weeks cycles with 2 weeks off where they use an ECA stack or Clen during the break to continue to lose fat, then run another 4 week cycle. So the 1st 3 days in this cycle would be 25mcg/day, then the 2nd 3-day period is 50mcg/day, etc. The typical 21-day cycle will look like this:
Days 1-3.................. 25mcg/day
Days 4-6...................50mcg/day
Days 7-9...................75mcg/day
Days 10-12................100mcg/day
Days 13-15................75mcg/day
Days 16-18................50mcg/day
Days 19-21................25mcg/day
As you can see the dosage is increased by 25mcg/day every 4th day until the maximum dosage is reached for the subject, in this case 100mcg/day, then lowered the by the same 25mcg/day increments every 4th day until the end of the cycle. Given that most of the people I've worked with have tried everything else and are still considerably overweight when they start, the full 4-week cycle is often used instead of the 21-day cycle. The one I've used lately with the most success is as follow, remember the jumps are still 25mcg/day but this time you increase/decrease the dosage every 4 days:
Days 1-4...................25mcg/day
Days 5-8...................50 "
Days 9-12.................75 "
Days 13-16...............100 "
Days 17-20...............75 "
Days 21-24...............50 "
Days 25-28...............25 "
Note: You could also do the 3-day increase/decrease and hold the maximum dosage of 100mcg/day for days 10-19, but some find 100mcg/day makes them too uncomfortably warm and they sweat too much, especially during the warmer months.
There you have it, simple yet effective. If you remember to supplement your diet with plenty of protein (which every lifter should anyhow), eat a clean calorie controlled diet, drink 1-2 gallons of water per day and to take a mild steroid cycle to minimize muscle loss you should be able to see rapid fat loss with this cycle. I should also mention that some people like to stack T3 with Clenbuterol for even better results. I’ve purposely left this out as I’ve stopped advising the use of both T3 and Clen as the same time, the side effects from using both together tend to be too much for most people I’ve worked with to handle so I suggest if their going to use Clen use it with an ECA stack if you can tolerate the shakiness, agitation and general irritableness. Good luck and may you all reach your cutting goals!!!
TJ
hooker
05-23-2006, 11:14 PM
Take enough T3 so that morning BBT gets to 98.2-3.
Stop taking clen when BP reaches 140/90.
Thats it.
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