PCT Question

[manicman1133]

Is HCG really necessary for PCT. Will nolv and clomid work without HCG, If say I was doing 1000mg every week of Test E 250 for 12 weeks and jump starting with 80mg d-bol the first four weeks.

[dudcki27]

Hcg is not a part of a pct. Some use it every fourth or fifth day during a cycle to keep thier balls swole. And some like myself will use it during last three to four weeks of cycle to jump start pct. During 500ius every fifth day. To jump
start pct I do 2500ius a week for last three weeks of cycle. But you don't have to use hcg. I've come off of a couple 16 week cycles with out it just fine.

[Invrt]

Is HCG really necessary for PCT. Will nolv and clomid work without HCG, If say I was doing 1000mg every week of Test E 250 for 12 weeks and jump starting with 80mg d-bol the first four weeks.

I have only used HCG when I used tren. Tren shut me down and I crashed after my first cycle with it. All my other cycles I was fine without it and I'm old:cool:. Your cycle is pretty mello and you should be just fine without the HCG.

About your cycle is it your first ? If it is your first :You should be using Enth at 500mg//wk.D-bol 80mg? Is that a week ? Per day ? 25mg a day is minimum and 50mg max. If you are planning on using 80mg/day you might need a liver transplant.:eek:

If it's not your first or second it's still alot of test, more is not always better. The only guys I've seen use over 750mg test a week have been on AAS for years and that's what they need to get results. If you are in the later (experienced user) disreguard this post, but if you are asking about HCG I would assume you are not.

[manicman1133]

I have cycled before with test E 250 and deca. I have had good results with the test and deca. I'm 38 and its been about 3 1/2 years since my last cycle. I used test about 10 years ago and I have never used a pct. I have always gained alot of muscle, but I would loss about half after a cycle. This time I'm really hitting it harder, and I will start using a pct.

I never cycled on a regular basis but I am determined to gain and lose fat, and the research I have done says a pct will help keep gains.

Will the 80mg d-bol ed be to much?
The test at 1000mg a week I handled well. I lost alot of fat on the 1000mg test, but when I use a lower dose of test, I don't lose as much fat.

What would you recommend for a pct without hcg?

Thanks for the reply's

[lostwars]

at 38 id advise u to stay away from more suppressive steriods like deca and trens, if u dont want to use hcg it wouldnt be wise to use them steriods b/c they shut you down hard
i really dont understand why u dont wana use it as its great to use and aids recovery so much faster therfore u keep the gains u work hard for, also 50mg dbol eday is plenty

test e 750mg/wk or250mg eoday
dbol 50mg ed x 4wks

hcg 500 iu e5 or 7 days from week 3 till end of cycle

clomid 100mg day1-10
clomid 50mg day10-30
nolva 20mg eday x 45days

start the nolva/clomid 2wks after youre last shot of test

[0351mang]

I agree with lostwars. You should definately utilize the knowledge these members give you.
Lower your doses to 50mg dbol per day.
250mg test enanthate twice a week.
HCG Every 5 days after week 3 until end of cycle.
Good luck dude!

[emt634]

lower that dbol dose bro your body cant use that much you will be pissing it away literally i like to use the hcg during cycle 250iu every 3 days works for me

[D.FAURO]

Hi all Im new to all he scanning stuff and I have a question about the 106 Pct. in Queens
I have it programmed in but do not recieve anything on the listed freq. 447.0875...
is there some thing I am missing?
I recieve Pcts from much further away....
are all the freqs listed on N2NOVs site accurate?
thanx in advance
Rob

[shadia]

whats up guys, im new to all this there i have a order of test prop and winny on the way im just curious how important the clomid is after the cycle?