**Please check out my endurance cycle**

[West_Bank]

Hi Everybody,

Just wanted to run a cycle that I'm planning on doing twice. First cycle starting in Nov06, second starting June 07. Elite off-road triathlete: ht5'10" wt150 bf4.5% age36 yearly training hours950 races this season9.

week 1-16 Eq 200 mg/week
week 1-16 Test E 100mg/week
week 17-20 Hcg 1500/weeek

Sort of a spin-off of the Newbie Gold but lower dose and longer duration. Have been doing a bit of reading and have found a lot of the endurance guys are using Eq. Keeping in mind that this is an endurance athlete cycle, looking for strength, recovery, not mass.

Checked out Swale's PCT Hcg protocol and was thinking about Hcg throughout the cycle. Found out in my research that there is some evidence that Hcg may effect endurance performance. I know many of you are not endurance athletes but would really like some of the guys on the board to give some feedback. Does anyone think I could run this for longer?? Any thought will be appreciated. Asta.

[medivac_driver]

bro..was thinking about doing a very similar cycle, just a bit higher dose and not as long...but no endurance dude. Was debating using Hcg, noticed you mentioned "Swale's" Hcg protocol? Where could I check it out? Peace.

[Buckson]

Looks a little dangerous for a guy your age and size. Granted these aren't high doses but at a buck-fifty and 36 yo you are asking for testicular atrophy. If anything I'd shoot the hcg every 4th week if you want to stay on for 4 mos.

Also, I understand the equipose, but why the Test? Not the best choice for an endurance athelete. The eq. will boost your erythropoietin levels fine without test, and it aromatizes much, much less. Test will give you more water weight, which will just be more weight to carry around for your races. BTW: Are you planning on anti-aromatization? You didn't list any?

I'd do the eq. with proviron. You'll likely get enough anti-estrogen effects, and it will give you the androgenic aggression that I presume you are looking to get from Test.

Finally, you should plan on using Clomid post cycle if you are going for 16 wks or longer--which likely isn't a real good idea.

[Kaiser]

Test at 100mg a week you probably wont even feel. It might only have the effect of adding a little water to you. Was there a reasoning behind the 100mg of Test? You are planning on using HCG along with the EQ, that should certainly raise your test up a bit and keep it there. As far as the testicular atrophy goes, I don't think it is going to be a problem with this cycle, but that is user independent. How about switching the Test out for Anavar? You would get some really good gains off of Anavar as far as endurance because that is what it was designed for. It was known as the "Olympian's Steroid" because they used it and it was out of their system in 7 days.

[West_Bank]

Yes, planning on a standard pct cycle of Clomid and Nolva for three weeks plus 500 Hcg weekly throughout cycle. Thank you for you input. Will definatley think about the Anavar. I do have a Q about the Anavar. If I do stack it with Eq could I use a lower dose of Anavar(just to make it a bit more cost effective)? Thanks again. :rolleyes:

[jstforme]

you need to bump the test to 500mg or just do anavar like said before. eq to 400mg, it takes a good 4-6 weeks to kick in so 16 weeks is a good cycle but anything under 400mg wont do anything at all

[Kaiser]

Yes, planning on a standard pct cycle of Clomid and Nolva for three weeks plus 500 Hcg weekly throughout cycle. Thank you for you input. Will definatley think about the Anavar. I do have a Q about the Anavar. If I do stack it with Eq could I use a lower dose of Anavar(just to make it a bit more cost effective)? Thanks again. :rolleyes:

You aren't going to get much out of Anavar without proper doses from what I have found. It is one of those orals where it kicks in subtle and gives you smooth progressive gains that you will more than likely hang on to after the cycle. I undertstand the cost, because it is expensive. I believe Mick and I had this discussion a while ago, and he said the main reason it is expensive is because of the Olympic issues I mentioned. That is when he said it skyrocketted. That, and the fact that the original pharm company stopped producing it in the 80's. Then 3rd party venders started making it in the mid-late 90s. Therefor some companies do not refer to it as Anavar, they call it by it's chemical name Oxandrolone. In other words, you may have a harder time looking the drug up via "Anavar"

For more information check out this profile:

http://www.steroid.com/Anavar.php

[sTaTic]

wouldnt an EQ, Proviron and winny stack be better for endurance?

[Kaiser]

wouldnt and EQ, Proviron and winny stack be better for endurance?

I don't have any personal experience with Proviron so I cannot add any to the conversation. As far as Winny is concerned, at his age there is a good chance he is going to have joint pain from it which would hinder his success.

[West_Bank]

Kiaser and Jstforme.....Thanks for the feedback. As for the Winny I have done a straight oral Winny cycle but the joint pain was horrible:eek: so I had to discontinue it. Been reading a lot of the replies and the consensus seems to be bump up the dosage on both Test E and Eq. You guys have a hell of a lot more experience with Test than I do...if I up the dose will I bulk up???

My rationale was the smaller dose of Test E would be beneficial in exercise recovery...am I wrong? Or will I get the same recovery benefits from just Eq alone? Have many guys run Eq solo?? Sorry for being such a fucking trouble maker:o trying to get the dosages right for an endurance athlete is a pain, but sure it will be worth it down the road. I should have been a BB:D . Thanks again for all the input. Peace.

[sTaTic]

I've run EQ solo. Gained a little lean muscle. about 10, 11 lbs. Ran it for 16 weeks. Nolva and clomid for pct. I was fine on it w/o test. Libido was fine. Vascular as shit :D

[West_Bank]

Static--how much Eq did you run???

[sTaTic]

800 mgs/week

[jstforme]

800 mgs/week

now your making me want to jump to 800 lol

[sTaTic]

lmao!! I either do 600 or 800. usually 600 if I'm adding something else to the cycle

[medivac_driver]

west...like i said , did a very similar cycle. Eq 300 TestE 200/week plus did this cycle for 15 weeks worked out well with a standard pct cycle plus Hcg. No problems. Good luck on finding the right dosages for your cycle. peace.