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tatteredxangelx
05-17-2006, 12:33 PM
hey, my first insulin cycle ran 6 week at 10iu ED post workout ... I am about to go back on for 4 weeks ... do you think 10iu will be suffienct for good gains, or should i bump it to 15, or maybe 10 pre workout and 10 post?

Kaiser
05-17-2006, 06:35 PM
hey, my first insulin cycle ran 6 week at 10iu ED post workout ... I am about to go back on for 4 weeks ... do you think 10iu will be suffienct for good gains, or should i bump it to 15, or maybe 10 pre workout and 10 post?


Stay away from it all together for now. You're 19 years old.

opusx
05-17-2006, 10:45 PM
bro, please take Kaisers advice! This is not about you being not mature enough, it's about the fact that at 19 your body is not finished developing. I hate to suggest toi one of Alins customers they stop buying, but seriously you need to chill with all the chemicals. At 19, and please do not take this wrong, you are still a baby. Man I thought I was all grown up at 21, now when I look back I was skinny, couldn't put on alot of muscle, and emotionally I was still a kid. I don't think I was emotionaly grown up until about 26, and most of my friends under 30 I can see the same thing. You have come a long way and I think you are a great member here, I think that is also why I am so worried about you. I don't want to hear about you when your 40, and your body doesn't produce insulin anymore, you have heart trouble, and you sterile. And bro, all those things are not out of the realm of possiblity or even likliehood.

tatteredxangelx
05-18-2006, 01:22 AM
grrr i have a competition to win .. :mad:

liquidC
05-18-2006, 02:16 AM
Insulin is one of the most misunderstood compounds. People generally use insulin WAY too often. Your body has an extremly strong feedback mechanisms against insulin, stronger than they do against beta-2 stimulants. Take insulin ED if you are a normal "non-diabetic" person and you will just start to develop a lot of insulin resistance causing you to have to keep upping the dosage of insulin to get a result plus getting you fat in the process.

tatteredxangelx
05-18-2006, 02:41 AM
so how much would u recommend liquid ... 10iu pre, 10iu post?

anaholic
05-18-2006, 02:55 AM
What Kind Of Insulin Is It?

Kaiser
05-18-2006, 03:09 AM
What Kind Of Insulin Is It?

Don't feed into it, at 19 he's too young to be doing that shit. I already deleted your first post where you recommended he do GH along with it. This is a warning.

tatteredxangelx
05-18-2006, 03:19 AM
no GH kai,

1) too expensive
2) not worth it at my age


just out of curiosity, why is everybody so goddamn against insulin? Yes it can kill you, but other than that and the VERY VERY VERY slight chance of turning diabetic ... there are no long term effects (cancer, heart disease, etc) and if someone is responsible with it (monitored with glucometer) i do not see why everyone stomps on the shit so bad.

Kaiser
05-18-2006, 04:53 AM
no GH kai,

1) too expensive
2) not worth it at my age


just out of curiosity, why is everybody so goddamn against insulin? Yes it can kill you, but other than that and the VERY VERY VERY slight chance of turning diabetic ... there are no long term effects (cancer, heart disease, etc) and if someone is responsible with it (monitored with glucometer) i do not see why everyone stomps on the shit so bad.

BECAUSE YOU'RE 19 YEARS OLD. And as far as your idea of VERY VERY VERY slight chance; Guess again, it's not so slight.

opusx
05-18-2006, 06:58 AM
tatt if you were a douchebag I wouldn't say anything and let you do what you want. Seriously, it's cause you seem like a really good dude that I saY anything at all. I know how much it sucks hearing from people about only being 19, I am sure it is frustrating as hell. But we are all doing it with the best intentions. I would love to see you win that contest, and with how dedicated you seem to be to workinf hard I bet you will. But all the wins in the world, becoming the next Arnold and having a movie career afterwards won't mean shit if you die at 40. Take it easy my man, you have alot of years to compete and win contests.

anaholic
05-18-2006, 09:35 AM
if your going to delete my posts then fuckoff you bald headed freak, i dont give a fuck if i ever come on here again, all ive done is help people, for free!!!

OuchThatHurts
05-18-2006, 10:54 AM
if your going to delete my posts then fuckoff you bald headed freak, i dont give a fuck if i ever come on here again, all ive done is help people, for free!!!
Whoa! Take a breath and calm down! He's just looking out for a teenager. Let me say that again... a TEENAGER. Slin, GH? roids? At 19? it's fucking rediculous.

Can't even go into a bar but can dose up on human growth hormone and tren.
What the hell is this country coming to...?
Kid needs a counselor, not more drugs.

opusx
05-18-2006, 11:04 AM
if your going to delete my posts then fuckoff you bald headed freak, i dont give a fuck if i ever come on here again, all ive done is help people, for free!!!

you have given people so much wrong advice it isn't even cool. Seriously it isn't a loss if you stop posting here

tatteredxangelx
05-18-2006, 03:02 PM
im not on HGH, and i dont need to go to bars, b/c i dont drink ... impeeds my growth ... also, it should be noted, other than 4 countries of the world I should be allowed to drink ... its just that US laws are horrible

its like bash tattered day ...

With all due respect to the people looking out for me, i appreicate it, i really really really do, but withholding informaiton from someone trying to learn isn't the best thing to do ... god forbid I, or someone else did something wrong for that matter b/c we werent able to obtain the proper information.

In regards to my age, yes I am young, but in order to acheive my goals, this is the age I had to start ... I made sure my growth plates were closed ... I dont flip out, or "roid rage" or do anything nieve and immature. I get my blood work checked monthly, I monitor myself with a glucometer, I dont consume alchohal and I make sure to use the safest and most sterile conditions. 99% people "old enough" to be juicing, don't take half the precautions I do.

I changed my whole life around to acheive my goals, I don't party anymore, I havent touched alchohal in months, havent done any drugs in god knows how long. I may be young, but I am well aware of the risks and consequences in what I do ... I educate myself to the fullest, and make mistakes just like everybody else, but I am trying to learn ... whenever I make a comment, question or suggestion, I would really appreciate it, if my lack of age and "idiocy" for doing what I do at my age are not the only replies I get.

tatteredxangelx
05-18-2006, 03:10 PM
and another thing Ouch,

I can be wrong here, but wouldnt the effects of GH be just the same as somebody ur age, as somebody my age, it is just that the postivie effects aren't as ideal?

enlarged organs is going to happen regardless of age ... no?

Kaiser
05-18-2006, 06:25 PM
if your going to delete my posts then fuckoff you bald headed freak, i dont give a fuck if i ever come on here again, all ive done is help people, for free!!!

Have a nice week off little old man. Next time it's permanent.

Your IP is noted.

Kaiser
05-18-2006, 06:36 PM
and another thing Ouch,

I can be wrong here, but wouldnt the effects of GH be just the same as somebody ur age, as somebody my age, it is just that the postivie effects aren't as ideal?

enlarged organs is going to happen regardless of age ... no?

I think the point everyone is trying to make here Tattered, is that young people, men and women tend to make the wrong decisions because they have very little real life experience. They also are not sure of what path to take, so the quick route, when you are young, always seems to be the shortest route between point A & B. We want to prolong your serious decisions until you have enough real world experience and know what you want in life. We're not trying to totally stop you from gear because we know that isn't going to happen, but we are trying to slow you down on doses you're taking that would hurt you permanently like the 2g a week of just Test plus other AAS including Tren running in a cycle that is still going and at this point longer than 6 months. On contrary to your belief, this is not bash Tattered day, it's more like beat some sense into Tattered day. There is a difference, and you'll probably appreciate what we are doing here when you are 35 looking at a 19 year old kid popping as much gear as you were.

OuchThatHurts
05-18-2006, 10:37 PM
and another thing Ouch,

I can be wrong here, but wouldnt the effects of GH be just the same as somebody ur age, as somebody my age, it is just that the postivie effects aren't as ideal?

enlarged organs is going to happen regardless of age ... no?
Yes you are wrong. By my age, GH has declined considerably. You're still growing, I am not. Even if your bones aren't going to get any longer they will certainly be thicker as a man to when you are a boy. I'm not trying to bash you in particular but am not going to sugarcoat this. This goes out to all you kids on here.

You are a teenager. You are using enough drugs for any four adult men. Maybe some of the guys on here will be the "cool guys". I'm not one of them. I think it best I just stay at ProM. You argued and busted my balls pretty good here at first and then I find out that I'm trying to have an adult argument with someone not that much older than my son? Sorry. I have more important things to do. I don't want to be on a board where teens are giving advice either. Does that make me a prick? Probably. I could care less. I'm not here to find buddies. I have 20 good years left where my strength and bones allow me to do all the things I do. Quite different than some runaway freight train at 19 looking to split atoms.

I'm sorry, I don't believe a word of your story. Any kid reckless enough to do 2g's of test and 700tren a week, is not going to have the presence of mind to be checked by a doctor regularly. Not to mention, are you a trust fund kid or something because what you're doing would cost thousands per month. Sorry, I just don't buy it.

So what am I doing here? A 34-yr-old doctor talking/arguing with a 19 year old kid who is quite possibly not even for real? Like I said, I have more important things to do. Maybe I need a to do a reality check!

Kaiser
05-18-2006, 11:02 PM
Yes you are wrong. By my age, GH has declined considerably. You're still growing, I am not. Even if your bones aren't going to get any longer they will certainly be thicker as a man to when you are a boy. I'm not trying to bash you in particular but am not going to sugarcoat this. This goes out to all you kids on here.

You are a teenager. You are using enough drugs for any four adult men. Maybe some of the guys on here will be the "cool guys". I'm not one of them. I think it best I just stay at ProM. You argued and busted my balls pretty good here at first and then I find out that I'm trying to have an adult argument with someone not that much older than my son? Sorry. I have more important things to do. I don't want to be on a board where teens are giving advice either. Does that make me a prick? Probably. I could care less. I'm not here to find buddies. I have 20 good years left where my strength and bones allow me to do all the things I do. Quite different than some runaway freight train at 19 looking to split atoms.

I'm sorry, I don't believe a word of your story. Any kid reckless enough to do 2g's of test and 700tren a week, is not going to have the presence of mind to be checked by a doctor regularly. Not to mention, are you a trust fund kid or something because what you're doing would cost thousands per month. Sorry, I just don't buy it.

So what am I doing here? A 34-yr-old doctor talking/arguing with a 19 year old kid who is quite possibly not even for real? Like I said, I have more important things to do. Maybe I need a to do a reality check!

Nope, you ain't goin' anywhere. We need you here. Raj & I will hunt you down like the dog you are! :D

tatteredxangelx
05-19-2006, 02:19 AM
No I am not a trust fund kid, but my insurance covers my blood work (i simply tell my doctor each month that i want to go on accutane)... my father is a firefighter so i am under his insurance which = $5 blood work ... I pay for my gear by working, I do not have any other real expenses since I live at home.