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BIGJOHN412
05-16-2006, 08:13 AM
I Am Getting Ready To Do A Cycle Of 75mg Tren Ace 400mg Eq And 15mg Of Anavar What Kind Of Gains Can I Expect

Kaiser
05-16-2006, 08:27 AM
I Am Getting Ready To Do A Cycle Of 75mg Tren Ace 400mg Eq And 15mg Of Anavar What Kind Of Gains Can I Expect

BigJohn don't take this the hard way, but no one is going to be able to logically predict what gains you are going to get from geear. Your chemical makeup is different than everyone else's here. That and you didn't mention anything abnout your physical makeup, height, weight, training & diet. Anyway, what I can say is this: If I did the cycle that youa re talking about with my makeup and my workout regimin, I would gain nicely from it. But I would add about 500mg of TestE base throughout the whole cycle.

tatteredxangelx
05-16-2006, 08:28 AM
good gains, but why not using any test?

i do not know much about EQ, it never interested me, so some1 correct me if im wrong, but its apparently similar to deca which means tren+EQ = limp dick and bitch tits ... id drop the EQ and use test ...

Kaiser
05-16-2006, 08:32 AM
good gains, but why not using any test?

i do not know much about EQ, it never interested me, so some1 correct me if im wrong, but its apparently similar to deca which means tren+EQ = limp dick and bitch tits ... id drop the EQ and use test ...

Tren & Anavar do not aromitize so the only thing he'll have to worry about would be the normal dose of EQ in which he should be fine. I, as stated before, would add some test in there however. Also, after reading it a second time, how much history do you have with AAS? If you don't have much leave the big dog Tren out of the picture for now. Bring him out once you have experience.

Alin
05-16-2006, 08:49 AM
BigJohn don't take this the hard way, but no one is going to be able to logically predict what gains you are going to get from geear. Your chemical makeup is different than everyone else's here. That and you didn't mention anything abnout your physical makeup, height, weight, training & diet. Anyway, what I can say is this: If I did the cycle that youa re talking about with my makeup and my workout regimin, I would gain nicely from it. But I would add about 500mg of TestE base throughout the whole cycle.


I agree,,,adding the Test is a must.

tatteredxangelx
05-16-2006, 08:52 AM
kaisar, how come test/tren/deca give bad gyno than ... i read something about the progesterone being uncontrollable with nolva as well.

Kaiser
05-16-2006, 08:57 AM
kaisar, how come test/tren/deca give bad gyno than ... i read something about the progesterone being uncontrollable with nolva as well.

My guess? Tren will take priority because of it's superior adrogenic elements. This means that all or most of your normal receptors should be full. In the end a very small amount of Deca is able to bind to the correct receptors because they are already full, so it aromitizes and binds to estrogen receptors. This would be my best guess, but Hooker or one of the others may be able to clarify.

tatteredxangelx
05-16-2006, 09:04 AM
that makes plenty sense, but wouldnt it be the same with Tren and EQ ...Tren would prioritize and EQ would turn aromatize?

Kaiser
05-16-2006, 09:08 AM
that makes plenty sense, but wouldnt it be the same with Tren and EQ ...Tren would prioritize and EQ would turn aromatize?

EQ from my experience doesn't aromatize as much as Deca. On me anyway. I get Madonna boobs on Deca. But yes the same theory would hold true, I just never really look at EQ as one that is that offending.

tatteredxangelx
05-16-2006, 09:09 AM
ahhh ... that makes sense ... thx for clearing it up for me.

Kaiser
05-16-2006, 09:14 AM
After just looking it up, EQ aromitizes at half the rate testosterone would. This profile at steroid.com backs up my original findings. Very good question however.

"The 1-2 double bond that Equipoise has is responsible for many of its characteristics. First of all, it acts to slow aromatization (conversion into estrogen). The best estimate is that it does so at roughly half the rate of testosterone (1). This is the best number I´ve found in studies. Athletes almost never report estrogenic side effects with Equipoise, even when the dose is up to a gram per week. Side effects caused by estrogen include oily skin, acne, and gynocomastia, and as I said, those are usually NOT found from Equipoise. Virilization (development of male sexual characteristics in women) is almost never seen with this compound, when reasonable doses are used by female athletes. This is one of the few injectable compounds which could be successfully be used by female athletes and bodybuilders, and isn´t often faked."

tatteredxangelx
05-16-2006, 09:22 AM
yeh, thx bro ... i looked it up myself ... found out that only the way they work was similar, not the actual effects ... said the EQ effects were more like test rather than Deca ...

Kaiser
05-16-2006, 09:26 AM
No problem brother, that's what we're here for.