Edema Question from a Newbe...

[2Fat4Luv]

Hey All...

The New Guy Here....
Been reading for a Bit Now on Different Subjects and Issues... I Like
the Way Everyone Seems to RESPECT each Other... NICE!!!!

Well Here is My Issue at Hand... I have VERY BAD Naturally occurring
Edema (ie; Water Retention)... I Hold Water like the Three Gorges Dam
(if Ever Completed... lol...)

I am Currently taking Dandelion Root Pills and Tea... However it Does
Little to Ameliorate the Edema... What (If Any) Would Be a Better
Alternative to the Dandelion Supplements??? I read that "A-Dex" is
Good for Water Retention, However is that only in Cases of AAS Use????

Any Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated...



Thanks!!!
2F4L

[opusx]

lasix? get some feedback from the big dogs here though

[2Fat4Luv]

lasix? get some feedback from the big dogs here though


Thanks Bro for the Start!!!!

2F4L

[Kaiser]

How old are you? What is your build like? What gear if any are you on and dosages/longevity? What is your total intake of water a day? Do you know if you have an over abundant estrogen level? Symptoms would be such as bitch tits. I'll try and help you out from there.

[anaholic]

if you could get your hormones checked do it have, your estrogen, and cortisol checked, if not you would be better off with a potasium sparing diretic like diazide, you would use this 2 days on 2 days off, the feed back loop on aldactone is 2 days, adex would work only if you have elevated estrogen levels, if i had to guess i would say it was from sodium fluxuations in your diet, ill bet if you went on a diet the problem would go away, try eating oatmeal and chicken breast for a week and see how you feel, you can also get diazide at www111drugstore.com

[anaholic]

i just saw kaisers post and it got me thinking, if you dont have access to have your hormones checked, if your nateral estrogen were high you would have some gynocomastia going on, if you do have a little gyno going on then your estrogen may very well be elevated

[Alin]

Hey All...

The New Guy Here....
Been reading for a Bit Now on Different Subjects and Issues... I Like
the Way Everyone Seems to RESPECT each Other... NICE!!!!

Well Here is My Issue at Hand... I have VERY BAD Naturally occurring
Edema (ie; Water Retention)... I Hold Water like the Three Gorges Dam
(if Ever Completed... lol...)

I am Currently taking Dandelion Root Pills and Tea... However it Does
Little to Ameliorate the Edema... What (If Any) Would Be a Better
Alternative to the Dandelion Supplements??? I read that "A-Dex" is
Good for Water Retention, However is that only in Cases of AAS Use????

Any Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated...



Thanks!!!
2F4L


caffeine can work as a mild diuretic.

[2Fat4Luv]

How old are you? What is your build like? What gear if any are you on and dosages/longevity? What is your total intake of water a day? Do you know if you have an over abundant estrogen level? Symptoms would be such as bitch tits. I'll try and help you out from there.


Hey Kaiser...
I am 34 / 5' 9" / Aprox 280lbs... I was in a Major Car Accident Wherein I had Fractured My Neck in 3 Places and SoSoSo Much other BullShit... So I Went from Power Lifting to Fat Collecting... I have Been out of the Gym for about 4 Years Now.... My Neck is the Main Reason I have been Out for so Long... Because of the Accident I have a Hole in My Vertebrae.... But I am Glad to Say, I have Been Cleared to go Back to the Gym...

As for the Juice... None... My Daily Water Consumption is Average to that of any Everyday Person... I am Not Sure of My Estrogen Levels... I Do have Bitch Tits... Always Fig that it came from getting Fat...

If You Need anything Else Bro let Me Know!!!


Thanks Kaiser!!!

2F4L

[2Fat4Luv]

if you could get your hormones checked do it have, your estrogen, and cortisol checked, if not you would be better off with a potasium sparing diretic like diazide, you would use this 2 days on 2 days off, the feed back loop on aldactone is 2 days, adex would work only if you have elevated estrogen levels, if i had to guess i would say it was from sodium fluxuations in your diet, ill bet if you went on a diet the problem would go away, try eating oatmeal and chicken breast for a week and see how you feel, you can also get diazide at www111drugstore.com


Hey Anaholic...

I am Not Sure of My Estrogen or Cortisol Levels... Never had a Reason
to check them out as Far as I Knew... As for My Sodium Intake... I
Keep it at a Very Low Level... I am Fat Enough and Hold Enough Water as
it is... lol... But then again.. I Can Not Control what they Put In
Processed Foods..... I am on a VERY Low Carb Diet Right Now... Prob
less than 30g/ED... I Just got My T-3 /Clen Combo and Should be
Starting that by Next week...

I will Look into the Products You Mentioned above...


Thanks again Bro for the Info!!!!


2F4L

[2Fat4Luv]

caffeine can work as a mild diuretic.

Hey Alin...

Thanks for the Reply Bro!!!

As for the Caffeine... I have Tried it... Does Not Seem to Work for Me in Regards to Water Retention... Was Great on the E/A/C though....

Thanks again Alin!!!!

2F4L

[tatteredxangelx]

if you are very overweight, my suggestion would be to diet and lose the fat before you worry about the water ... the water may go with the fat

[2Fat4Luv]

i just saw kaisers post and it got me thinking, if you dont have access to have your hormones checked, if your nateral estrogen were high you would have some gynocomastia going on, if you do have a little gyno going on then your estrogen may very well be elevated


Sorry about that Anaholic... Don't Know how I Miss Your Post... Was going Down One By One but still Missed this... Sorry... Must Be Going Blind... lol...

So!!!

What do I Ask for when geting My Estrogen and Cortisol Checked out???? Do I Tell them I just want to Test My Hormones Levels???? Also if I Do have Bitch Tits, How do I get Rid of it????

Thanks again Anaholic!!!!!

2F4L

[2Fat4Luv]

if you are very overweight, my suggestion would be to diet and lose the fat before you worry about the water ... the water may go with the fat


Sup Tatteredxangelx....

That is One thing I am Hoping for... lol... It has Been So Long Since I was Last in the Gym Durring My Power Lifting Day... I can Not remember if it was this BAD Back then aswell...

Thanks for the Post Bro!!!!


2F4L

[tatteredxangelx]

only surgery gets rid of real bitch tits.

[Kaiser]

When you got into your accident, did they say anything about damaging your thyroid?

[2Fat4Luv]

only surgery gets rid of real bitch tits.


That is what I am Starting to Learn... That Phucking Sux!!!


Thanks Bro!!!

2F4L

[2Fat4Luv]

When you got into your accident, did they say anything about damaging your thyroid?



Hey Bro...

No... Nothing was ever said about My Thyroid Being Damaged... That will Truly Sux if that is the case!!!


Thanks Bro!!!

2F4L

[anaholic]

so do you have nateral titties going on? if so dont worry about them, the piont is it is an indication that you have elevated estrogen therefore adex would help
it can be real tuff finding a doctor that will run any test that you suggest, it kind of has to be there idea or they wont cooperate, you just need to kind of hint around to it and act dumb, then he might do it

[Kaiser]

Hey Bro...

No... Nothing was ever said about My Thyroid Being Damaged... That will Truly Sux if that is the case!!!


Thanks Bro!!!

2F4L

Well that is a plus. The only reason I ask is because I knew someone who did mess theirs up in a motorcross accident. They weren't aware of it (and damaged spleen) until he gained about 50 lbs. But I am still a little concerned of the mass you have incurred over this short of a time. Can you get bloodwork done to make sure everything is in tact before you do any AAS or other chemical? I just want to make sure we are accurate on this one because I have a different feeling about this incident. This doesn't mean it is bad, it just means that there may be a more simple answer to your problem and I'd rather be sure.

A side question: How are your sleeping habits?

[tatteredxangelx]

a friend of mine had an accident and fucked up her thryoid ... she gained 35lbs in a matter of months ... Dr's dont check for thyroid probs regularly, you have to ask ... ask the doctor to check your thyroid, that is my advice ...

[Kaiser]

a friend of mine had an accident and fucked up her thryoid ... she gained 35lbs in a matter of months ... Dr's dont check for thyroid probs regularly, you have to ask ... ask the doctor to check your thyroid, that is my advice ...

That is definitly what I would say also. They don't check thyroids usually when there is trauma. This would also be an answer for you that you could work around with T3 or T4.

[anaholic]

alot of docs will check thyroid without it being an issue,
i personally cant figure the whole system out why the fuck cant i have bloodwork done without a doctors orders, ive asked this while holding a wad of hundreds in my hand, ill pay cash right now , nope gotto have a doctors order, fucking doctors i hate them, good luck getting blood work done, i had to go to 20 plus doctors before i found one that would cooperate