in case

[tatteredxangelx]

being that I had gotten 6 different packs picked up since october, and 4 within the past months, I am pretty certain I am either being watching by the local police, or the dea is planning a controlled delivery ... anyone have any advice, on what to do (cleaning house is not an option, i have to shoot ED) and i already told my parents not to sign for any packages, and I won't either ... anyone have any experience ... do you guys think 4 packs in the past month 300anavar, 100 anavar, 50 winny and 20ml of test is enuf to warrant a raid ? (the test may not have been picked up, it was stealth, so customs may just be "Examing it" but its been 3 weeks and i got the other pack sent after it)

[bigpun81]

It could just be that your address is flagged at customs and they are seizing your packs and maybe some are slipping by them. If I was you I would lay low for a while, try not to worry too much, finish your cycle and look into getting a PO Box or getting a friend to let you use his address for future packs. I opt for regular mail to my PO Box and it took 2 weeks, may take longer but just having it left in my PO box and not having to sign for it makes it a little less sketchy for me.

[allnatty06]

i have some what personal experience with this matter. My friend has problems like this and several others do too. I wouldn't worry if i were you, but then again being scared always is better then not being scared, keeps you at your wits... Trust me when i say that they have bigger fish to fry. Pills are easy to catch as well, VERY easy to seize. Besides, if they wanted to take you to trial.... they probably won't do it until a year or 2 later.... they always put that small time crap off until they have no open current "larger" cases.... trust me, don't worry, but also don't order anything else...... Nobody is going to be breaking in your house over such a small size order, there are MUCH MUCH bigger fish in their ocean:)

[k1*]

Bump Bigpun...no more orders to that addy. Look into getting a PO Box. If they aren't watching you and the addy is flagged then, they will be if you keep ordering to that addy. You should use a different addy everytime you order and then just rotate between them. Do your parents know what you are ordering? I just rotate through my families different addys, and let them sign for packs. They call me at work and tell me to pick my shit up after work. They write return to sender on the pack and leave it in the mailbox until I get there.

[Kaiser]

i have some what personal experience with this matter. My friend has problems like this and several others do too. I wouldn't worry if i were you, but then again being scared always is better then not being scared, keeps you at your wits... Trust me when i say that they have bigger fish to fry. Pills are easy to catch as well, VERY easy to seize. Besides, if they wanted to take you to trial.... they probably won't do it until a year or 2 later.... they always put that small time crap off until they have no open current "larger" cases.... trust me, don't worry, but also don't order anything else...... Nobody is going to be breaking in your house over such a small size order, there are MUCH MUCH bigger fish in their ocean:)

Again, you have no experience here. BigA got his house RAIDED with a warrant a few times. I'm, sure he could chime in here and explain but, he got it searched one time for less than $300 of gear. Stop living in fantasy land, to municipal police you are a big fish to fry.

[k1*]

Again, you have no experience here. BigA got his house RAIDED with a warrant a few times. I'm, sure he could chime in here and explain but, he got it searched one time for less than $300 of gear. Stop living in fantasy land, to municipal police you are a big fish to fry.

!!!!!:D!!!!! Big Bump Bro..............

[Alin]

burn the house and run in thailand :D

IMO i wouldnt worry if you receive small quantities they will not come after you. The guys are ussualy busted receive big quantities of stuff. if you receive 10 packs with small quantities in each one dont think this is a problem. relax everything will be sweet.
AND dont orders from arab countries anymore :)


BIG A situation was special one also hes in Australia but not only this. Maybe he was raided for 300 USD gear but shit started long time before this and from other reasons

[opusx]

i have some what personal experience with this matter. My friend has problems like this and several others do too. I wouldn't worry if i were you, but then again being scared always is better then not being scared, keeps you at your wits... Trust me when i say that they have bigger fish to fry. Pills are easy to catch as well, VERY easy to seize. Besides, if they wanted to take you to trial.... they probably won't do it until a year or 2 later.... they always put that small time crap off until they have no open current "larger" cases.... trust me, don't worry, but also don't order anything else...... Nobody is going to be breaking in your house over such a small size order, there are MUCH MUCH bigger fish in their ocean:)

your a nark aren't you?

[k1*]

your a nark aren't you?

:D ROFLMAO!!!!! :D

[tatteredxangelx]

LMAO @ opusz !!!

yeh Alin, tell me about the arab shit ... dude doesnt even tell me ... and i get the tracking number and the websites in arabic.

[tatteredxangelx]

oh and kaisar, I believe Australia is MUCH tighter than US on steroids ... I think they have super customs or something :)

[Kaiser]

oh and kaisar, I believe Australia is MUCH tighter than US on steroids ... I think they have super customs or something :)

Not necessarily now. That is why I posted what I did. Check out this post:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16173&highlight=laws

They are hitting harder in the US as of not too long ago.

[anaholic]

sounds like customs just has you flagged, its no big deal they dont bust users, if it were dea they would have delivered all the packages the same day and then raided you that next morning

[tatteredxangelx]

kaisar, from my understanding that new law is more targeted towards coaches and parents who influence their atheltes to juice? or was thats something differemt? Either way, I agree, b/c cheating is wrong ...

[Kaiser]

kaisar, from my understanding that new law is more targeted towards coaches and parents who influence their atheltes to juice? or was thats something differemt? Either way, I agree, b/c cheating is wrong ...

If you read the thread, it doesn't segregate between the two, so you are open to it now if they want to be jerkoffs. Thats the thing. Yeah, it mentions dealers and coaches, but the little volume they are talking about can target basically anyone since 25mg is counted as a single unit. That is where the complaining is coming from. A normal user in the US has the ability to go to jail for using his own stuff without distribution which is unjust. Whether it is likely to happen, we don't know. But it's out there and they are on a steroid rampage in the US because of assholes like Arnold and Greg Valentino speaking out unjustly and the news media taking advantage of it because the desert war is getting boring now and they need ratings. Fuckin' hypocrits.

[opusx]

guys we need to stop telling people just not to worry, nothing will happen. it's coming election time, and don't ever put anything past police and politicians. Yes they are less likely to bust someone like this, but if weird shit is happening and you think you are about to get pinched do the smart thing. Clean your house, lay low and don't have anything mailed to your house. Have your stuff sent to me or any of the mods and we will decide when it is safe, if ever, to send it to you.

[Kaiser]

guys we need to stop telling people just not to worry, nothing will happen. it's coming election time, and don't ever put anything past police and politicians. Yes they are less likely to bust someone like this, but if weird shit is happening and you think you are about to get pinched do the smart thing. Clean your house, lay low and don't have anything mailed to your house. Have your stuff sent to me or any of the mods and we will decide when it is safe, if ever, to send it to you.

I feel exactly the same, my guess is it will be just like a DUI bust soon. Cops get a pat on the back for being jerkoffs to someone who had 2 beers and weighs 230lbs and floated a .081. It is getting tighter over here and alot of people in other countries aren't aware of the changes and differences in authority attitude. For instance, and the mods know about this, a guy was busted for distribution around my way 2 weeks ago. He had a total of about $700 worth. Yes he did indeed distribute before, but they never caught him distributing, they only caught him receiving. Since he's over the limit, they were able to push for the distribution charge. Case in point, it doesn't hurt to be a little cautious here in the States until this whole debacle cools down a bit.

[tatteredxangelx]

its not arnold or greg ... its these pussies who use steroids to CHEAT in profesional sports ... i am all for use, as long as you are competing in non-tested comps, or for self benefit ... no reason to get an edge on somebody else ... its awful that millions of innocent lives are fucked b/c of a handful that cant play by the rules ... like that asshat barry bonds.

[Kaiser]

its not arnold or greg ... its these pussies who use steroids to CHEAT in profesional sports ... i am all for use, as long as you are competing in non-tested comps, or for self benefit ... no reason to get an edge on somebody else ... its awful that millions of innocent lives are fucked b/c of a handful that cant play by the rules ... like that asshat barry bonds.


People have been hearing about players using gear in sports for years. It has never been able to get a real foothold on parents thought process. But, now we get people to see things like Greg Valentino sticking himself in his pathetic excuse for an arm on TV to excrete infection puss and all of a sudden parents see a side that is not of the norm. BUT they think it is. Then you get people like Arnold, trying to make IFBB drug free. What a sham. He's a friggin hypocrit. He wouldn't be anywhere in life without the use of AAS in his older days. I wonder if he had a chance to do it all over again, would he stay away from gear? No fuggin way, he'd be a nobody and he knows it. Now that he is governor, people forget his past and thing he's actually got a spine. Well he doesn't.

[opusx]

I agree tatt about pro sports. I still love though that Vargas came out all lean and ripped and juiced up talkin smack to oscar who is the cleanest athlete out there and then Vargas gets his face busted open. This is where it's a double edged sword, roids won't necessarily make you able to beat a boxer you normally couldn't beat, or hit off a pitcher that you normally can't. But in that poor excuse for a human, barry bonds, he could always hit off about anyone, now he can just hit it further and it leaves the park far more often. I wish he would fail like vargas did. maybe he will blow his knee out for good while still stuck at 413, shit the Babe did it all in less games and hung oiver for half of them.

[anaholic]

when steriods are used correctly they promote health, well being, productivity, and a boosted immune system, the government doesnt want this, you know they actually raid people who import longevity drugs, the FDA wether you know it or not is your enemy, they want you to be on there drugs the rest of your life, they do nothing for your well being,steriods are not illeagal because the government cares about you, theydont want anyone taking anything that enhances or promotes health and wellbeing, do you know 1 person who isnt on a persciption drug, i dont, except me public enemy #1, i have 5 kids and none of them have been to the doctor since they were born, none of them have been vaccinated , or have been to the dentist, thats how they fuck you up to begin with, amalgam filling, and a boat load of shit in those immunizations, they want to decensatize and dumb down the population

[tatteredxangelx]

anaholic ... i dont want to tell you how to raise your children ... but I suggest you take them to the Dentist ... I had a friend who's parents shared the same view and now everybody calls him "Scum Adam" cause he has green n yellow teeth ....

[kimskid]

anaholic ... i dont want to tell you how to raise your children ... but I suggest you take them to the Dentist ... I had a friend who's parents shared the same view and now everybody calls him "Scum Adam" cause he has green n yellow teeth ....


HAHAHAHA !! :)

[opusx]

anaholic ... i dont want to tell you how to raise your children ... but I suggest you take them to the Dentist ... I had a friend who's parents shared the same view and now everybody calls him "Scum Adam" cause he has green n yellow teeth ....

bwahahaha. I agree with you fully.

Anaholic, I respect your views but it's a little too paranoid conspiracy theory for me. My father is a doctor and it isn't like the FDA can just fool doctors into thinking whatever they want them to think. Now the drug companies can bribe doctors to think what ever they want.

Steroids aren't exactly all that safe man, there are very good reasons for tightly controlling them. I mean come one now, they aren't some miracle live longer wonder drugs.

[Kaiser]

i have 5 kids and none of them have been to the doctor since they were born, none of them have been vaccinated , or have been to the dentist, thats how they fuck you up to begin with, amalgam filling, and a boat load of shit in those immunizations, they want to decensatize and dumb down the population

:eek:

Someone call DYFS!

[opusx]

vaccinations do suck, I love Polio and small pocks.

[anaholic]

i havnt even touched the surface of it all, just the parasites and toxins alone are overwellming and none of you guys know about it,
this is how we take care of our teeth
brush with baking soda, floss before rinsing, rinse and gargle with hydrogen peroxide, 1 time per week rinse with potasium iodide, 1 time per week use zappicator on teeth, my kids teeth are perfect, i spent 10 grand taking the amalgam out of my mouth, amalgam is like sucking on a murcury lozenge 24 hours a day 365 days per year, if you really think the fda wont let doctors perscribe steroids because they care about our health then your brain washed

[opusx]

i havnt even touched the surface of it all, just the parasites and toxins alone are overwellming and none of you guys know about it,
this is how we take care of our teeth
brush with baking soda, floss before rinsing, rinse and gargle with hydrogen peroxide, 1 time per week rinse with potasium iodide, 1 time per week use zappicator on teeth, my kids teeth are perfect, i spent 10 grand taking the amalgam out of my mouth, amalgam is like sucking on a murcury lozenge 24 hours a day 365 days per year, if you really think the fda wont let doctors perscribe steroids because they care about our health then your brain washed

what medical purpose does tren, eq, or dbol have? Gh, has a purpose and can be prescribed. Test, again it has a purpose and can be prescribed. and not all fillings are made of the same stuff, your generalizing. Dude you admitted to being a IV drug user and that roids were what helped you quit. Your weak minded and have no self control. Replacing one substance for another is not admirable, and certainly lends credence to my opinion you shouldn't be raising kids or giving advice to anyone about chemicals as dangerous as AAS. There are proper ways to use AAS and minimize the negative side effects, unfortunately much of the advice you give isn't the proper way.
I am no big fan of the government, and personally I think everything should be legal and controlled; but I don't buy the big conspiracy theories at all, that doesn't make me brainwashed. Do them a favor and take your kids to a doctor. People don't have a natural defense to things like Polio, thats why vaccines were created.