Trebolone mix ???

[louk05]

I am starting a test and tren cycle and was wondering wat I should use to stop gyno so I dont get it? I have been doing a lot of reading and find that I need 2 one for the tes and one for the tren. what is the best ones to get?? also What should I get for my PCT? Thanks a lot

[ronnie]

If this is your first cycle don't use tren,it's a very powerfull compound and not for beginners.carbagoline or prami is what you would use for tren gyno,and armadex for test.
And if your asking a question like what do I do for pct,then it's shows you need to do some more learning before you start using AAS.

Most people use clomid and nolva for pct.Two weeks after your last shot if test,or 3 weeks after deca or tren.

[375RANGER]

If this is your first cycle don't use tren,it's a very powerfull compound and not for beginners.carbagoline or prami is what you would use for tren gyno,and armadex for test.
And if your asking a question like what do I do for pct,then it's shows you need to do some more learning before you start using AAS.

Most people use clomid and nolva for pct.Two weeks after your last shot if test,or 3 weeks after deca or tren.

yup bump this

[louk05]

This is not my 1st cycle and I have been trainning for about 2 years now. I have learned a lot on this board and done PCT before just hear so much different opinions about what to do and want to get the best answere on what I should do. I did a test cycle before with good results and know what to do but was just wondering what is the best rout to go. Here are some stats.
Age 26
Wheight 182
BF 18%
Height 5"11"in
training for 2 years without aas just did my 1st about 4 months ago and did PCT. I am just trying to get the best out of what I am using. I know Tren is strong. I am not new and have learned a lot but not sure if I am doing the right PCT. I did it all natural last time so was just trying to keep my gains and not screw anything up. I am how ever kinda new to AAS so I want to do it right and not screw it up. I am not a beginner by any means and have learned a lot on here. I just want to make sure I do it right. Like I said I did a PCT last time I was on tes and did it with nothing but lost some of my gains.

My goal is to get pretty big and weigh about 230 with 12% BF so was wondering what I should do for PCT to do this and right now I am bulking up and know I am not going to get cut but after I an done I want to cut what I do have and not loose it. I know a lot about what I am doing and do it with caution. So I am just trying to gather all info I can. I looked for PCt after tes and tren cycle but really found none and I am adding a Dbol for 4 weeks to the mix after weeks 4 so I am trying to avoid gyno. and is it reversible if I do get it. I did get it with my tes cycle but not bad and it went away. I have a strict diet and stick to it. So I am trying to bulk up and shred after my bulk and keep my gains. So any help would work. what is a good PCT to follow after tren/tes c cycle?? any help please. I know its a bad question but I need to know what to do to get the most out of it. I do a 1ml a week on the tren mix and 1ml a week on the tes c so I am trying to bulk now and cut after. so what is the best rout to PCT and what should I order? and is 10 weeks enough or should I go more?? I have searched and read a lot of post and found so much info just never got my answer. Please help me out so I dont screw it up and do something wrong. I want to do it and do it right with optimal gains. I train 2 days on and 2 off and 1 on weekends. I put cardio in all my work outs. I want to loose my last bit of BF and was wondering what I can do to do this as well. Dont take me as a fool but I use to buy my stuff off the streets and learned as I went so I need your help to get it right. My diet in pretty good I thing.\

I eat 6 times a day and take in about 300g of protein. I am just wondering what is the best way to do PCt as I have done it before but with no help. Please help me out and I am not going for competition but want to get bulked up and cut after I am done. Please help me with info. There is not a lot of info on tren mix so I need to know what to do and to do it right. I dont feel gyno yet but want to avoid it. and how and when should I start so I dont get gyno. Please help guys. I am not new jus new to trn mix. I see results after only 1 week so I guess I am doing something right. I just want to get my BF down. Thanks for any input and knew that I would be told not to use tren. if not what should I use? with info given can you guys help me get on a regimin to gain the most strength and to bulk up as much as I can. Thanks a lot and you guys know your crap on here. I read up for a month while trainning solo before I started.. I feel like I reached a plateau and saw no more gains so moved to AAS. any help will be greatly appreciate.

I dont count calories right now but I try not to go over board. I take a GNC multi vitamin and eat real well. Please what can I do now to stop gyno and after to keep my gains and to do it right? Thanks a lot for your guys help. I just want to get the most out of it and want a solid opinion on what I should do and what I should order so I can get it on its way. I am on week 1 and am doing a 10 week cycle. what one should I stop 1st and what should I do after? Thanks a lot

[louk05]

I want to get stronger not just bigger so what is a good work out to get stronger?? I hear 80% with mid reps is the way to go and 6-=70% with high reps is the way to go to get ripped and to get endurance. Is this true?? and can I mix it up through my weeks?? heavy 1 week and 80% the next week to get stronger and bulk up at the same time? I am still not happy with my gains. I guess I am doing somthing wrong. can you post your work out schedule for bulking/strength so I can follow or kinda so I am not wasting time? Thanks a lot

[louk05]

what is a good weight loose/ cutting cycle for PCT?/ This is my biggest worry. any info on what I should do and doses I should take. Thanks

[tmike]

armidex is good for gyno worked for me or nolvedex if you start getting itchy nipples or swelling and those aren't strong enough letro/femera is good and will get rid of gyno but is strong and has a siden it'll make it hard to get and keep a erection

[louk05]

How long should I take the tren mix?? all the way through the 10 week cycle?? I am planning on PCT and win after that to cut up and loose BF. Thanks guys you are great

[littlecarlo]

28% Body fat!!!! Dude you need to lean out before you EVER consider Tren. At that % you will most likley get all the sides and nouthing ealse. Be safe get lean. If I where you I would come off everything , do a PCT, then make my goal to get to under 15% (10 is better) Then you will be in a place to see real results from aas.

[louk05]

OK yeah that is a big typo. I am
18% BF not 28% :eek:holly crap. LOL
Didn't mean to due that.
I am pretty thin and That was a big typo. I did a cycle of tes and had no gyno but I hear a lot about tren and they say its easier to get it with it. Sorry for the typo there I am not 28% BF I am at 18%. my goal is right around 10% after my cycle to cut what I gain but I don't want to loose much. I have read a lot of good threads on strength training and on bulking and endurance. So I pretty much know what I have to do just what gear is best to achieve that. Thanks a lot guys for all your help

[littlecarlo]

Ok here is my 2 cents. 18% is good but I would drop down below 15% before using Tren. I have used both Tren and Para under 10% and at 16%. All the times I did tren and para when I was lean, I had little to no sides (othere then my lipids going to shit). The one time I used Tren when I was fat I felt like shit. I came off after only 4 weeks. Way to many sides for me. I am getting ready to do a cycle of Super tren and Mast. The Mast helps with the sides.

[ronnie]

Whould you not consider Deca and test?that is a tried and tested bulking cycle.
No matter what cycle you do the pct is going to be nolva and clomid,and if you do use tren,hcg should he run during your cycle because tren will shut you down hard,as well as the insomnia,limp dick,night sweats,attitude problems and kidney toxicasy..

And you either bulk or cut not both.

[ronnie]

And I just saw that your bodyfat is 18%,like carlo said get below 15 before you start your cycle.

[tmike]

what type of tren are you planning on using that way can see how long it'll stay in your system and start with a low dose to see tolerance tren can make you aggressive and have some sides for some people everyone respondes different 200mgs of tren a week and 500 mgs of test a week is a good cycle it will make you stronger and help give you that lean ripped look i've used tren and it's awesome but it is strong and not for everyone and it makes cardio rough cause it messes with your breathing makes you short of breath start with your same diet then toward the end of the cycle cut your carbs tren will give you good solid gains but it usually won't blow you up quick

[1bigun11]

If you are worried about estrogen related sides because of the test, DO NOT take Nolva with tren. Instead take an AI like arimidex for estrogen related sides, and keep some caber on hand in case your prolactin levels get too high. But do not take Nolva for estrogen issues while on tren.

Nolva and progestins do not mix well. Tren, being a progestin, binds with an affinity to the progesterone receptor of 60%, and Nolva has the ability to up-regulate progesterone receptors making matters worse.

Tren does not aromatize, but progesterones can cause gyno by enhancing estrogen's stimulation of mamary gland growth. By reducing estrogen levels with an AI (arimidex), you will indirectly lower progesterone levels as well. Nolva does not lower estrogen levels; it simply blocks the estrogen receptors.

[louk05]

I am useing the tren mix and I am in my 2nd week with no sides yet. But I am going to get arimidex as I hear it is the best. So far no sides but dont really want to take the chance. Thanks for the input and I am not to sure about deca as I hear about deca dick and not to fond of that. That is kinda why I went with tren instead. I am on a bulking cycle now. Going to cut after PCT and a few months off. I know nolva and clomid are for PCT but what is the best doses and how long? I see so many different ones? Thanks a lot

[louk05]

I was looking on alinshop and can not find it. Is there another name for it so I can order it?? please let me know where I can order it?? let me know

[ronnie]

What can't you find,pct??

[ronnie]

Ok I'm blind lol
Adex,I'll have a look for you.

[ronnie]

Its in stock.
They call it by it's generic name" Anastrozol"
Look in the tablet section.

[louk05]

well I am 5 weeks in and no sides yet. I am getting great results I must say. I am noticing great gains in size and strength. It is putting it on fast. I am down to 16%BF now. I am not on a diet either really. I do not go crazy with carbs or calories but I have no sides so far. Just great results. and I am useing the tren mix. I do 1/2ml every 3 1/2 days because 1 part only stays in your system for 3 days so I try to take 3 1/2 days. working great. I take 1ml of the tes c every 7 days and 1/2 ml of the tren mix every 3 1/2 days. has any one else ever tried this?? it seems to work great for me so far in my 5th week. Should I be taking more or less of the tren mix or should I just take it every 7 days along with the tes c?? Thanks for all your help you guys are great