Your doing you PCT wrong.

[superbeast22]

Guys, I am doing PCT right now, taking proviron 25mg a day in the AM... I feel GREAT. My sex drive is strong as fuck.. I am strong as fuck, only lost 4 lbs and that could be due to getting off creatine... I am still strong as fuck and sex drive is as good as it could be... I take the proviron under the tongue and let it dissolve for like 30 min....

I remember my first pct... clomid and nolvadex... the clomid made me feel like hell the nolva killed my sex drive and i just generally felt like crap!!!!


Im not even taking clomid right now and my balls are coming back just fine, cum is getting all thick and sticky again... guys.... seriously. Take proviron during PCT. I am going to get blood work to PROVE to you guys that proviron does NOT suppress you enough to matter! I didnt even taper... if I had of tapered, holy shit!

[blazen2000]

Is this your PCT for the 20 day PROP cycle.

[superbeast22]

yizzir.

[blazen2000]

Prop test so you started this 2-3 days after last shot. How long you going to run the proviron for. I read on your other post about your personal problems with nolva. Is this your solution to that or just for the 20 day cycle.

[superbeast22]

i started it about 2-3 days after the shot, its been a week or two now.. i fuckin forget haha.... reguardless.. im doing good in the sex drive area and i feel gooood

[goldseasy]

Good thread.....this reminds me of that guy who has been saying clomid and novla are poison since he joined here.....Who was that guy, hmmmmmmmmm....Oh yeah, it was me

[375RANGER]

yup i love proviron, been on it the last 3 years.

[Gambit]

Interested in the blood work. You gonna do FSH and LH too? Or just total Test?

[blazen2000]

I'm no big expert or have that much knowledge about aas like you do SB but would this be proof for a short cycle only or would you do the same on a 10-12 wk cycle.

[peptidoglycan]

it would only be proof for a short cycle but good to know next time others hit up the shorty too! like me... soon.. someday soon. lol

[MK1980]

Hey guys, for those of you that have had issues with Nolva affecting your sex drive, how long did it take to bounce back after you stopped PCT? I've been off of my PCT for like 5 or 6 weeks and my sex drive is still crashed the F out!

- MK

[willie99]

Im gonna give it a shot, never done pct with proviron.

[hcube]

Guys, I am doing PCT right now, taking proviron 25mg a day in the AM... I feel GREAT. My sex drive is strong as fuck.. I am strong as fuck, only lost 4 lbs and that could be due to getting off creatine... I am still strong as fuck and sex drive is as good as it could be... I take the proviron under the tongue and let it dissolve for like 30 min....

I remember my first pct... clomid and nolvadex... the clomid made me feel like hell the nolva killed my sex drive and i just generally felt like crap!!!!


Im not even taking clomid right now and my balls are coming back just fine, cum is getting all thick and sticky again... guys.... seriously. Take proviron during PCT. I am going to get blood work to PROVE to you guys that proviron does NOT suppress you enough to matter! I didnt even taper... if I had of tapered, holy shit!

I have read some info on HCG (I was not planning on using it) here http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/14720-hcg-pct-recovery-protocols.html. Especially the post by MD. Swale caught my eye. Add: The HCG protocol is in the PCT forum sticky

Would HCG (500 UI EOD) plus 25mg proviron (ED) be a good idea for a (longer) >10 week cycle?

I am interested in keeping my sex drive as a service to a very nice 20 yr girl who likes me... :D

[superbeast22]

Hey guys, for those of you that have had issues with Nolva affecting your sex drive, how long did it take to bounce back after you stopped PCT? I've been off of my PCT for like 5 or 6 weeks and my sex drive is still crashed the F out!

- MK

4 months before i could even get 100% hard again. it was horrible.

i will be doing fsh lh and total test...

also i know people that had used proviron to recover from long cycles as well.

[superbeast22]

I have read some info on HCG (I was not planning on using it) here http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/14720-hcg-pct-recovery-protocols.html. Especially the post by MD. Swale caught my eye. Add: The HCG protocol is in the PCT forum sticky

Would HCG (500 UI EOD) plus 25mg proviron (ED) be a good idea for a (longer) >10 week cycle?

I am interested in keeping my sex drive as a service to a very nice 20 yr girl who likes me... :D

never do hcg during your pct bro.

[Tyrone]

I knew sTaTic as the Proviron Master!:cool: Search his threads on it to make sure you're doing things correctly.

And superbeast is correct, in the way that hcg is not for pct....It's more for prevention.

[superbeast22]

I knew sTaTic as the Proviron Master!:cool: Search his threads on it to make sure you're doing things correctly.

And superbeast is correct, in the way that hcg is not for pct....It's more for prevention.

and for giving you gyno if you use too much :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:

ima do some static searches and see wattup. thx

[Tyrone]

and for giving you gyno if you use too much :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:

ima do some static searches and see wattup. thx

I'm not sure I understand if you're pissed cause someone steered ya wrong or my comment or what man cause I don't have time to run all the boards nor this one with a real life....If any one of those 'red faces' is at me just let me know so I can correct the situation with ya via pm man...I'm cool tonight...;):D:eek: I can't guarantee anthing in the future but I'm feeling fine tonight...at least right now bud.:p

[MK1980]

4 months before i could even get 100% hard again. it was horrible.



DUDE... now I'm scared as fuck! My GF doesn't know I use gear and a couple of times we were getting it on and I couldn't even get it up. That has NEVER happened before in my life... So of course she thinks I'm cheating on her, etc. On top of all of that, she's pregnant, so she's super emotional, etc. Sorry to divulge all this info, but I'm really worried.

I've been taking Yohimbe, but that hasn't been doing anything. Is there anything else I can take to speed up my recovery? Right now the only Sups I'm taking is: a multi, Vit. C, Yohimbe, protein, B12 injections, and N.O. Xplode. I have another cycle planned for July sometime... should I avoid it? Should I get on it ASAP? Sorry to invade the thread, but I hope you guys understand my urgency due to it being my nads/sex drive... if somebody can help me out (or PM me) for advice, I'd be very grateful.

Sorry for being off topic,
MK :(

[superbeast22]

I'm not sure I understand if you're pissed cause someone steered ya wrong or my comment or what man cause I don't have time to run all the boards nor this one with a real life....If any one of those 'red faces' is at me just let me know so I can correct the situation with ya via pm man...I'm cool tonight...;):D:eek: I can't guarantee anthing in the future but I'm feeling fine tonight...at least right now bud.:p

hahaha no not at all twords you dude!!! I got a lil gyno from using too much HCG once :(

[superbeast22]

DUDE... now I'm scared as fuck! My GF doesn't know I use gear and a couple of times we were getting it on and I couldn't even get it up. That has NEVER happened before in my life... So of course she thinks I'm cheating on her, etc. On top of all of that, she's pregnant, so she's super emotional, etc. Sorry to divulge all this info, but I'm really worried.

I've been taking Yohimbe, but that hasn't been doing anything. Is there anything else I can take to speed up my recovery? Right now the only Sups I'm taking is: a multi, Vit. C, Yohimbe, protein, B12 injections, and N.O. Xplode. I have another cycle planned for July sometime... should I avoid it? Should I get on it ASAP? Sorry to invade the thread, but I hope you guys understand my urgency due to it being my nads/sex drive... if somebody can help me out (or PM me) for advice, I'd be very grateful.

Sorry for being off topic,
MK :(

PM sent.

[dojoshark]

Hey guys, for those of you that have had issues with Nolva affecting your sex drive, how long did it take to bounce back after you stopped PCT? I've been off of my PCT for like 5 or 6 weeks and my sex drive is still crashed the F out!

- MK

Did you figure out what to do about that dude? My third week into the PCT with Nolvadex and my sex drive crashed too. I thought it might be my body adjusting to not have the test but there is a real difference. Didn't connect it to the Nolvadex but since you mentioned it WTF maybe it's that. I have Proviron would that help SB?

[lostwars]

i really do believe alot of ppl here are blaming nolvadex for youre loss of libido during pct
come on lads get real here, this is because you are shut down it happens to us all who use aas its part of the game, pct isnt fun and its hard to recover fast from cycles
pct protocols are the holy grail, everyone wants to find what works best as it benefits us all,why do ppl say they recover faster with hcg while ppl say dont use hcg during pct?
these are all arguments u should try out youreself, dont let somebody elses opinion or past pct protocols be fact for you, try and experiment, theres lots of different arguments for and against hcg use during pct
i know what works for me and im glad i found out what works best for me

using proviron will help keep u in wood during pct but it will not help or aid youre recovery in any way, whether it impedes that recovery is another argument
SB has said this already and it will be intresting to see blood results he does afterwards, but dont confuse his 20day cycle and recovery from a 12+ cycle and pct recovery protocol
the length of time u spend shut down will affect youre recovery

[MK1980]

i really do believe alot of ppl here are blaming nolvadex for youre loss of libido during pct
come on lads get real here, this is because you are shut down it happens to us all who use aas its part of the game, pct isnt fun and its hard to recover fast from cycles
pct protocols are the holy grail, everyone wants to find what works best as it benefits us all,why do ppl say they recover faster with hcg while ppl say dont use hcg during pct?
these are all arguments u should try out youreself, dont let somebody elses opinion or past pct protocols be fact for you, try and experiment, theres lots of different arguments for and against hcg use during pct
i know what works for me and im glad i found out what works best for me

The thing is, I've done 3 previous cycles (Sust @ 500/week for 10 weeks, Winny 50mg/day for 4 weeks) and did no PCT and never had any issues with libido or sex. My nads shrunk a little, but everything else was normal. BTW, I know PCT should be done, but back then, I was getting advice from a pal at the time and he said I wasn't doing enough test to warrant PCT.

This time around, I wanted to make sure I did everything "proper". For all 4 weeks of my PCT, my sex drive was just as high as when I was on cycle. In fact, around week 3, my dick was so hard in the morning it was too annoying. The only thing different about my last cycle was that I used Prop and Mast and did my PCT. About 1 week or so after my PCT ended is when my sex drive crashed.

I won't be using Nolva again. I've read way too many negative things about it and I've never been prone to gyno anyways. I'm going to incorporate HCG and Arimidex to use during cycle and will do PCT of Clomid. If I research and find out more info about another PCT product, I will use that as well.

[lostwars]

The thing is, I've done 3 previous cycles (Sust @ 500/week for 10 weeks, Winny 50mg/day for 4 weeks) and did no PCT and never had any issues with libido or sex. My nads shrunk a little, but everything else was normal. BTW, I know PCT should be done, but back then, I was getting advice from a pal at the time and he said I wasn't doing enough test to warrant PCT.

This time around, I wanted to make sure I did everything "proper". For all 4 weeks of my PCT, my sex drive was just as high as when I was on cycle. In fact, around week 3, my dick was so hard in the morning it was too annoying. The only thing different about my last cycle was that I used Prop and Mast and did my PCT. About 1 week or so after my PCT ended is when my sex drive crashed.

I won't be using Nolva again. I've read way too many negative things about it and I've never been prone to gyno anyways. I'm going to incorporate HCG and Arimidex to use during cycle and will do PCT of Clomid. If I research and find out more info about another PCT product, I will use that as well.

have a look at aromasin to use instead of nolvadex

[hcube]

bump on the blood work :D

[coco1717]

clomid does make you feel like shit. im on pct atm, str is all there, kept all gains, but i have limp dick and feel apathetic toward alot of things. guess its all part of pct, but my balls are back and after i do get my dick hard, which takes work, i cum buckets of superglue..

theres always a price to pay, but a couple weeks and ill be better.

[priest]

clomid does make you feel like shit. im on pct atm, str is all there, kept all gains, but i have limp dick and feel apathetic toward alot of things. guess its all part of pct, but my balls are back and after i do get my dick hard, which takes work, i cum buckets of superglue..

theres always a price to pay, but a couple weeks and ill be better.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[SIKNIK]

superbeast,did you get your bloodwork done? How long did you use proviron for pct?
I hear nothing but good things when people use proviron and alot of negative feedback on nolva.

[hcube]

4 months before i could even get 100% hard again. it was horrible.

i will be doing fsh lh and total test...

also i know people that had used proviron to recover from long cycles as well.

did you get around to do that blood work? did you get a crash / milder problems after some time on your PCT with proviron?
and final question: for how long did you do PCT with proviron?

thx!

[superbeast22]

did you get around to do that blood work? did you get a crash / milder problems after some time on your PCT with proviron?
and final question: for how long did you do PCT with proviron?

thx!

did blood work came back normal, no problems at all bro. i loved it, i did pct for like 2 months with just proviron.

[rhinofight]

interesting. proviron only for pct and you kept most of your gains and your levels are normal?

[superbeast22]

kept all gains.

[SIKNIK]

kept all gains.

SWEET.......

[peptidoglycan]

SWEET... your the test subject... now we know.... you should get this publish in the medical journal. :)

[superbeast22]

sweet is right :)

how about a pic of you in contest form... under 5% is crazy.

[peptidoglycan]

i will be posting pictures after i compete.. im just super lazy right now. just focusing on two things in my life.. diet and training. this last week is a bitch but im looking leaner and meaner everyday.. :) thanks for the interest .. i have veins all down my abs and chest.. crazy looking in the gym like a roadmap or spiderweb.

[superbeast22]

badass bro.... i apreciate a big lean build... i have abs down my abs and chest too, but i have a protective layer of fat over them to make sure they can only be seen when flexed :)

[peptidoglycan]

abs on abs... now thats sweet. lol

[superbeast22]

hahah fuck you.. i ment veins u prick! :P

[musclemd]

What is more important than a good PCT-nothing.
Unless pct works what is the point?

[crfpilot14]

Just because this proviron only PCT worked for SB doesnt mean that it will work for everyone. All proviron does is provide a little androgenicity in an environment that is quickly clearing all of the androgens. 99% of us have to use some sort of estrogen receptor blocker and aromatase inhibitor...along with HCG. I use proviron year round since I am on TRT but I did use it during PCT in the past and it worked well for maintaining my libido and muscle hardness.

[hcube]

Just because this proviron only PCT worked for SB doesnt mean that it will work for everyone. All proviron does is provide a little androgenicity in an environment that is quickly clearing all of the androgens. 99% of us have to use some sort of estrogen receptor blocker and aromatase inhibitor...along with HCG. I use proviron year round since I am on TRT but I did use it during PCT in the past and it worked well for maintaining my libido and muscle hardness.

Do you suggest the use of AI:s during PCT or during cycle? :confused:

hCG have been used for PCT and during cycles, but I have not yet seen AI:s suggested for PCT.

Thanks for clarifying!

[crfpilot14]

AIs from start to finish of cycle/PCT.

[superbeast22]

AI's and serms are a must for pct, i am amazed i recovered on just proviron, but staying on proviron while doing pct i bet would work realllll good :)

[crfpilot14]

Yep...I have been using proviron for a long time. But I was banned on here for 6mos for suggesting PCT that wasnt inline with what the powers-that-be on here professed. I think they like ignorance and naivete on here to sell their product without interference or questions. But I keep coming back because I have met some good people on here.

[superbeast22]

Yep...I have been using proviron for a long time. But I was banned on here for 6mos for suggesting PCT that wasnt inline with what the powers-that-be on here professed. I think they like ignorance and naivete on here to sell their product without interference or questions. But I keep coming back because I have met some good people on here.

You got banned for giving advice and bringing up your medical background as a reference...

[shadia]

hey guya whats up, im on a test prop and winny cycle and was wondering what is best for pct. i seen that the clomid was pretty cheep and also want to know how nessesary it is to do pct if this is my first cycle and im only doing 10ml of test prop and 10ml of winny. i know its a stupid question but im really new to all this..

[Invrt]

hey guya whats up, im on a test prop and winny cycle and was wondering what is best for pct. i seen that the clomid was pretty cheep and also want to know how nessesary it is to do pct if this is my first cycle and im only doing 10ml of test prop and 10ml of winny. i know its a stupid question but im really new to all this..

:eek:

First off use the search button plenty of info on good PCT info. Second if you're on cycle and didn't plan a pct you don't know what you're doing. I was going to say you're fucked, but there is some hope you can get your stuff for PCT here. They do have fast delivery.:D

[Jello]

:eek:

First off use the search button plenty of info on good PCT info. Second if you're on cycle and didn't plan a pct you don't know what you're doing. I was going to say you're fucked, but there is some hope you can get your stuff for PCT here.They do have fast delivery.:D

And that's a good thing for him.

Clomid/Nolva for 4 weeks. 100/40 week 1, 50/30 week 2, 50/20 weeks 3 and 4. That should get you through this one and make sure you don't run another cycle until you truely understand what you are doing.

[shadia]

well thanks guys.. il keep that in mind.