Cycle question

[eljugo16]

hey guys i am thinking of doind a lean mass cycle. as of right now it looks like this.

Test E 500mgs weeks 1-10
Test Prop 125mgs EOD weeks 1-6
Oral Turinabol 50mgs ED weeks 1-4

what do you guys think? any comments?

my stats are 5'8 190 about 14%BF
iv been training hard for 3 years; diet and training are mint

[tatteredxangelx]

looks good ... you can probably run the test e for 12 weeks tho, and make sure you have clomid/nolvadex handy from the get go!

[Kaiser]

hey guys i am thinking of doind a lean mass cycle. as of right now it looks like this.

Test E 500mgs weeks 1-10
Test Prop 125mgs EOD weeks 1-6
Oral Turinabol 50mgs ED weeks 1-4

what do you guys think? any comments?

my stats are 5'8 190 about 14%BF
iv been training hard for 3 years; diet and training are mint

Tattered, he is a little off here, and I am not sure if it is on purpose, but here are my findings:

If you do the TestP for 6 weeks you are going to have about a 3 - 3.5 week burst in the middle of your cycle where you will be at about 1g os test a week then it will cut in half to 500mg over the last 4 weeks. You are overlapping the esters. Is there a specific reason you are doing this? It's possible you are doing this for a reason, but for the most part people don't realize they are. You could make the equivilent and I could save you the EOD shots if you were trying to pyrimid your cycle 500mg, 1g, 500mg. At that point you would just jack the TestE up after the first week to 1g and then stop the TestP altogether like I said at week 2.5 - 3. You would just be doing 2 shots per week at that point of only TestE. Remember, testosterone is testosterone, it only varies in quality from vender name and the esters in which it gets preserved. If you want a constant even 500mg flow of test cut out the TestP at week 2.5 - 3. Good luck brother.

[eljugo16]

thanks for the advice bro... what i was doing with the TBOL and Prop was jump starting my cycle.

[Kaiser]

thanks for the advice bro... what i was doing with the TBOL and Prop was jump starting my cycle.

Thats cool, you just dont have to do it that long. Cut it down to 2.5-3 weeks like I mentioned and you're all set to go. Good luck on your cycle.

[tatteredxangelx]

yeh i figured he was jumpstarting with the prop ... thats what i did on my first cycle! speaking of cycle ... the mailman's here ... lets see if alin left me any gifts today!

[Kaiser]

yeh i figured he was jumpstarting with the prop ... thats what i did on my first cycle! speaking of cycle ... the mailman's here ... lets see if alin left me any gifts today!

But pay attention to their overlap. Jumpstart doesn't need to be that long.

[tatteredxangelx]

yeh good call ... 4 weeks ... i didnt even look, my bad whoever started this thread!

[Alin]

hey guys i am thinking of doind a lean mass cycle. as of right now it looks like this.

Test E 500mgs weeks 1-10
Test Prop 125mgs EOD weeks 1-6
Oral Turinabol 50mgs ED weeks 1-4

what do you guys think? any comments?

my stats are 5'8 190 about 14%BF
iv been training hard for 3 years; diet and training are mint


Looks pretty solid. I would run some Arimidex or Letro. Dont forget PCT.

[OuchThatHurts]

If you already HAVE the prop, just jumpstart 3 weeks in the beginning and do the same coming off... then you can jump right into PCT without waiting for 2-3 weeks until the enanthate stops supressing your axis. Do you know what I mean? Prop is great for front loading but it's even better on the backend to get right to PCT and not screw around for a few weeks losing a pound a day.

You'll eventually get a good feel for that.

[Kaiser]

If you already HAVE the prop, just jumpstart 3 weeks in the beginning and do the same coming off... then you can jump right into PCT without waiting for 2-3 weeks until the enanthate stops supressing your axis. Do you know what I mean? Prop is great for front loading but it's even better on the backend to get right to PCT and not screw around for a few weeks losing a pound a day.

You'll eventually get a good feel for that.

Damn Ouch, I haven't heard backend loading in ages... good idea.

[eljugo16]

can you guys give me an idea of how the backend loading would look?
thanks

[Beetlejuice]

Personally i think using test prop with test e is a little counterproductive. If you want lean mass use it with EQ or tren.

[OuchThatHurts]

can you guys give me an idea of how the backend loading would look?
thanks
Let's say a 12-week cycle

week 9 - last enanthate injection
week 10 - 100mg prop EOD
week 11 - 150mg prop EOD
week 12 - 200mg " "

(you increase the dosages because the enanthate is leaving your system)
two days after last prop injection, start PCT!!! No two week wait! Simple.

(adjust dosages to your total test/wk that you want to use)

[eljugo16]

Beetle Juice im doind Prop as a jump start since Test E takes a while to get in the system. EQ i would have to do at least 12 weeks for it to be even worth it.

Ouch that hurts with that back loading phase would i jump start the cycle in the begining too?

[Kaiser]

Ouch that hurts with that back loading phase would i jump start the cycle in the begining too?


Yes, that is what he is saying. You can front load and back load with TestP.