PCT WOES

[peptidoglycan]

Arrrggg there is no question here.. just feel like crap... coming off sucks balls.! i feel like im super tired all the time.. unmotivated.. hungry... still feel some strength and leanesss thanks to the winstrol... i will start pct next week. ive def noticed a difference in all around attitude.. im bland lethargic and get moody easy. Sorry if this is not a good [post for this thread. just let me know mod if this is unacceptable and i will move it to off topic.

[superbeast22]

I think this belongs here for sure.. sorry to hear about it man.. proviron helps me coming off big time.

[375RANGER]

yea that sucks . i always hated comming off. i run trt now and its awesome. no sides. but im much older then you guys. i use to cry at the drop of a hat, lol, like at a sad commercial. haha.

[mazmm5]

I start PCT tomorrow, I've been off EQ for 4 weeks now and off the Test for 2 weeks.

This last week I've been really tired, to the point that I started taking naps in the afternoon. Currently sleeping 9 hours every night and another 3 or 4 in the afternoon. Not sure how I am going to cope next week when I start working again.

[goldseasy]

Kind of a mental thing with me; think how excited you are to do that 1st pin, you feel and look great while on, then before you know it, it's over and you feel like you lost something...

Alas, that next cycle is not too far away

[Serotonin]

No doubt the crash is bad but that is when you really need to keep it the most intense. You'll climb back up the HPTA mountain and if you worked hard enough you'll keep those gains the AAS highway speeds ya to.

[peptidoglycan]

thanks guys! i feel better today. this link helps me check it out and all of you of course.!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcj_9WC10KA&annotation_id=annotation_7140&feature=iv

[hcube]

Good that you are feeling better! You will get through this for sure. Still, I want to tell about a little "miracle drug" I had last year:

I was diagnosed with depression last year and I got something called Lyrica (generic: pregabalin). It made me really self confident, more social, talking a lot and generally feeling excited about everything. The "transient effect" dispersed after a few weeks. I was told that the body adapts but the medicine still worked against the underlying depression. What I called a transient effect would be enough to take you through a bad PCS (I just made that abbreviation up :)).

There are some warnings about suicide risks if you take it! Everyone makes their own choice to take it based on how they big risk they estimate. There are probably better suited forums for discussing these types of drugs, since its not a traditional PCT drug.

PS. I am not sending this message from the Other Side. :)

[semper fi]

Glad to hear your feeling better.Just think in few months you'll be back on top of the world



Si vis pacem, para bellum

[georgefrompa]

Try cabergoline... helps out with the Dopamine .. makes ya feel better, read up on it

[peptidoglycan]

Good that you are feeling better! You will get through this for sure. Still, I want to tell about a little "miracle drug" I had last year:

I was diagnosed with depression last year and I got something called Lyrica (generic: pregabalin). It made me really self confident, more social, talking a lot and generally feeling excited about everything. The "transient effect" dispersed after a few weeks. I was told that the body adapts but the medicine still worked against the underlying depression. What I called a transient effect would be enough to take you through a bad PCS (I just made that abbreviation up :)).

There are some warnings about suicide risks if you take it! Everyone makes their own choice to take it based on how they big risk they estimate. There are probably better suited forums for discussing these types of drugs, since its not a traditional PCT drug.

PS. I am not sending this message from the Other Side. :)

Nice ill check it out.. but my mental health is good its just i physically feel like i have less energy. :D ive been taking ephedra and caffine and i feel better haha.

[Gambit]

Try St John's wort. Helps with serotonin levels. I use it during the first 2 weeks of PCT.

[Billsale2000]

I wasnt ready for it mentally, christ it was terrbile, depressed and weak, felt like sh*t. Good thing is it dint last that long, about 5 days and I was feeling good again. Will be better prepared next time.

[peptidoglycan]

Try St John's wort. Helps with serotonin levels. I use it during the first 2 weeks of PCT.

gunna get some now!

[peptidoglycan]

I wasnt ready for it mentally, christ it was terrbile, depressed and weak, felt like sh*t. Good thing is it dint last that long, about 5 days and I was feeling good again. Will be better prepared next time.

nice thanks for the empathy lol... im glad to hear it didnt last long.. i will be looking forward to that.

[starboots]

Also look into 5-HTP its readily available over the counter and works great by itself.

[peptidoglycan]

Question:::!? what does PCT really feel like.... i just need some confirmation on my state. or if others have came out of pct feeling like i do.

Ok here goes... last pin was two Thursdays ago.. it is now sunday. I didnt really feel much coming off. actually i started noticing alittle more emotionality once i started PCT (nolva and clomid) last Thursday. but i still get good pumps in the gym (not as good 6th week of cycle) but good. my strength is still there... Only difference is i dont feel like going to the gym but after couple sets in i get a pump and get to it! Ive done sus before and coming off that i remember was a bitch...
I have lost weight.. im 200 now throughout the day.

Another thing is weird i still get off.. never really lost my libido.. but i am super tired.. i sleep like 9 hours a night. lazy.. lethargic..

question is... how did you guys feel when coming off? I also never really felt like my balls ever shrank and there the same now. (although this is a matter of subjective opinion.)

[dojoshark]

Say PEP, just to add, sometimes I react to stuff and I swear I feel like I'm acting like bitch. I get all bent out of shape. This guy got in front of me at a restaurant and I like practically pissed about it and told him. I think about it and I say why does that shit bother me? The other day I was watching some Italian immigrant documentary and I got all emotional WTF! lol Can't wait till I'm back and training hard. Maybe I should up the Nolvadex to 40mg? What do you guys think?

[peptidoglycan]

Say PEP, just to add, sometimes I react to stuff and I swear I feel like I'm acting like bitch. I get all bent out of shape. This guy got in front of me at a restaurant and I like practically pissed about it and told him. I think about it and I say why does that shit bother me? The other day I was watching some Italian immigrant documentary and I got all emotional WTF! lol Can't wait till I'm back and training hard. Maybe I should up the Nolvadex to 40mg? What do you guys think?

hahaha ya i bout cried watching liar liar.. and its a supposivly a comedy lol..
Ya i use the anger in the gym.. but im really short tempered now.. im usually not at all. but driving is where i get pissed. whats your dose of nolva right now? and for how long have you been doing pct... ? are you taking clomid?

[lostwars]

every good ride has a fall, its a pity it has to end but it be better for ye all round, cycling on and off, after youre 1st pct it gets a little easierget plenty of vit c and d in to you they help alot with pct, my appetite usually takes a major dive on me so iget an appetite enchancer to help me eat close to what i do when ON
its good youre libido has been affected so far b/c thats the worst part of pct, its horrible when u loose youre will to fuck so i always have a nice stash of viagra handy
just hit the gym 3times a wk and do alot of sensible training, u wana maintain as much as you have gained over the cycle so alaways get a good pct and have extra in case you feel you need to run a certain compound longer than u intended, i bet u the clomid is fucking with youre game too, it will all settle down after 2 wks
best of luck and keep training, set youreself new goals for the next cycle and start getting youre next cycle in as it gives u something to look forward to

[peptidoglycan]

wow thanks man... that really helped me out..

[kevin3987]

Glad to hear your feeling better.Just think in few months you'll be back on top of the world



Si vis pacem, para bellum

what Does that last part say:o

[dojoshark]

Hey pep it's been a while, hows the PCT coming along?? Right now I'm at the end of 4 weeks and will stop the Nolvadex next wednesday. Feel good but the libido went down considerably. I'm not stressing it. But I have to say I'm starting to think about my next cycle really bad. lol and I'm ready this time! PCT is here and ready! Have been reading alot, joined a serious gym and am going to start thinking about my next cycle. Will definitely need this board's advice.

[superbeast22]

what Does that last part say:o

its a marine thing bro ;)

[WorryWart]

Arrrggg there is no question here.. just feel like crap... coming off sucks balls.! i feel like im super tired all the time.. unmotivated.. hungry... still feel some strength and leanesss thanks to the winstrol... i will start pct next week. ive def noticed a difference in all around attitude.. im bland lethargic and get moody easy. Sorry if this is not a good [post for this thread. just let me know mod if this is unacceptable and i will move it to off topic.

I've been on for almost 4 years!

I don't like the mood swings when it begins to dissipate, so I meditate and take painkillers to relax and watch TV or surf the NET until my next order comes in.

It's like being a junkie or some damn adict!

Sex is once or twice a month,yet, she wants more which I can't supply.

So, I threw caution into the wind and I'm staying on it forever!

This is definitely bad advice, but I've got to keep the feeling going!

[dojoshark]

I can relate to that bro. lol but You don't sound too WORRIED..Worried Wort LOL

[WorryWart]

I can relate to that bro. lol but You don't sound too WORRIED..Worried Wort LOL

I don't worry about too many things. I do worry about my job and keeping my gf happy, other then that I'm OK! Love those 'roids!