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Dizzee
06-11-2009, 04:13 AM
Hi, I started using Anavar just over 3 weeks ago and have been taking 90mg a day spacing it out with 30mg doses along with an ephedrine tablet each dose. I primarily bought them for fat loss and was wondering how much fat loss % roughly could I be expected to lose over a 12 week course. I am also worried that I am not getting any stronger on most lifts since using them, not a very noticeable difference anyway. I clicked a banner on www.steroid.com to order them and persume they are legit, they were also very expensive.

I weighed myself just under 2 weeks ago and I was 6 Ft 1 and 16 stone 9lb and according to the palm reader for fat % I was 26%. I may post some pictures if I can to see if you agree because a lot of my mates don't think I am fat but I do carry a lot of fat in my hips.

My diet has typical looked like this.

Breakfast bowl of special K with protein shake

Piece of fruit not long b4 gym

Post gym meal varies day to day e.g. Pasta Bolognese, Steak and Potatoes with salad, chicken with noodles. I always have a Protein shake too as it's post gym.

Either 4 chicken Thighs peeling the skin off or 4 slices of brown bread with half a tin of salmon and salad.

Protein Shake.

Do you think I need to up my dose to 120mg a day because of how heavy I am?

The BB Monad
06-11-2009, 04:25 AM
I don't think those in that banner are the real stuff!!!

Anyway, as for the weight loss expected... we're all different! I am on 50mg daily (real anavar) and am losing like shit... but I am also on T3, Primo, Sust, Eq and ECA.

Maybe you should shop at Alinshop!!!

ojs
06-11-2009, 04:26 AM
At first I thought this post was a joke. But I have a feeling it's legit.

First, you really didn't need anymore anavar. 50mg a day is plenty. Your main concern should have been exercise and diet. You've posted your diet. It's not that good. I would get fat on it as there's way too much sugar in it. But that can be fixed. What are you doing for exercise?

Dizzee
06-11-2009, 04:47 AM
I have started doing a 20 minute cardio burn 3-4 times a week either not long after I wake up or at night before bed, usually in the mornings though. At the gym it's usually. If we can't get there 5 days a week we work it so every body part gets worked that week at least.

Monday - Legs and Abs

3x8 Squats
3x8 Leg Presses
3x8 seated calf raises
3x8 Leg Curl
3x8-10 Hanging knee raises
3x8-10 Weighted side bends
3x8-10 Swiss Ball crunches

Tuesday- Chest and tires

3x8 each Flat, Incline, Decline Bench Press provided we can get on them all.
3x8 Chest Press
3x8 Machine Fly
3x8 Rope pull down
3x8 Bar tricep push down
3x8 One handed bar tricep push down


Wednesday - Back and Traps

3x6 Dead lifts
4x8 Seated Row
3x8 Lat Pull downs
3-4x 8 Upper Back row

We use two other machine too but don't know what they called. One is sort of a one handed row and the other 2 handed but the handles are positioned higher using biceps more. 3x8 on Both.

Thursday - Shoulders and Biceps

3x8 Dumbell Press
3x8 Standing Press
3x8 Upright Row
4x8 Use the cables and sort of bring the bar right up past out heads and back down with straight arms.
3x8 Bicep Curl
3 supersets of 8 reps each arm at medium weight then immediately to a low weight for another 8 reps each arm.

Friday - Chest and Tris

3x8 Incline dumbbell press
3x8 Flat dumbbell press
3x8-10 dumbbell flys
3x8 Chest press
3x8 Machine flys
3x8 Dips.

Dizzee
06-11-2009, 05:50 AM
I forgot to ask. When I started using this stuff I stopped taking my creatine to tablets wrongly thinking this stuff would be like rocket fuel. Would it help in any way to start retaking them. I am currently a 36-37 waist and would be happy with a 34 waist as I am naturally big framed.

Any diet tips are welcome as I didn't realise it was that bad. I knew the Pasta Bolognese was probably bad but didn't think once a week would be too harmful and I didn't think I was eating too many calories,

mrsmott33
06-11-2009, 06:30 AM
I am taking Var (real Stuff :D) but it is the weakest steriod out there but I am running it with EQ and T3 my BF went from 24-19% in less than 4 weeks but my diet and weight training are very much in check. Your diet does not look very good like OJS said to much sugar and also not eating enough times a day or enough good fats if u r interested send me a PM I have a great diet u could follow

The BB Monad
06-11-2009, 06:36 AM
I am taking Var (real Stuff :D) but it is the weakest steriod out there but I am running it with EQ and T3 my BF went from 24-19% in less than 4 weeks but my diet and weight training are very much in check. Your diet does not look very good like OJS said to much sugar and also not eating enough times a day or enough good fats if u r interested send me a PM I have a great diet u could follow

Love the new avatar mrsmott33 !!! :D:D:D

Looks like that diet and training is definately paying off! :cool:

Dizzee
06-11-2009, 06:38 AM
Here is a link to some photos of me unflexed just give you an idea of what I look like. On reflection I think 26% is about right.

http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/cruellade/

Is it really not legit stuff that I have bought? It cost me $600 :-( I should have known something was up when they doubled my order for using Western Union when couldn't use my Visa.

mrsmott33
06-11-2009, 06:48 AM
Love the new avatar mrsmott33 !!! :D:D:D

Looks like that diet and training is definately paying off! :cool:

Yes It is!!! A lot of hard work dedication and dicipline that is what it takes and its not easy!!! But I will stick to it the results are amazing!!!

Dizz- ur body fat does not look that high from the pics

Jello
06-11-2009, 06:56 AM
Here is a link to some photos of me unflexed just give you an idea of what I look like. On reflection I think 26% is about right.

http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/cruellade/

Is it really not legit stuff that I have bought? It cost me $600 :-( I should have known something was up when they doubled my order for using Western Union when couldn't use my Visa.

I think that stuff is as close to real Var as Flinstone's vitamins. I would not worry too much about it right now, just concentrate on your diet and go to a 3 day training split with more Cardio. You will drop to your goal in just a few months.

The BB Monad
06-11-2009, 07:01 AM
Is it really not legit stuff that I have bought? It cost me $600 :-( I should have known something was up when they doubled my order for using Western Union when couldn't use my Visa.

Those are not the real deal!!!

Think about it for a second please... Legal Steroids??? WTF???

It is cheaper and you're sure to get the legit stuff if you buy directly from Alinshop... I already told you that!

In any case diet and training is the key!

joe4fsu
06-11-2009, 07:08 AM
I commend you for having the balls to post your pics of your current state to an open forum.. because of that I want to help..

As others have mentioned diet and exercise is key... just by looking at your current WO regimine its no wonder you look the way you do (being honest), that routine is boring and need a kick in the butt...

try doing what you are doing but try doing each exercise instead of 3 sets of 8 reps to 3 sets of reps to failure.... you are not pushing your body, whether is for fat loss, body building, etc. your body does not notice a challange...

Looking at that banner I would think you can take this as a lessoned learned... but get your diet and cardio routine in place and change your weight training...

hope this helps...

Dizzee
06-11-2009, 08:04 AM
Thx. I know I don't look great and tbh I am fed up of working out with seemingly no results. That routine I posted, I've only been doing that for 3 months as I thought change would help. My legs seem to be the only thing that improves. I can improve at massive rates on Squat and Leg Press but everything else, especially bench seems to be stuck.

On a side note. I know this Anavar is not legit but is there any benefit of taking the stuff as I am now stuck with 20 bottles of it!!

joe4fsu
06-11-2009, 09:07 AM
send a bottle to an independent lab and find out whats in it

lostwars
06-11-2009, 10:28 AM
ye unfortunatley u were suckered on that shit u bought, i bet u everyone of those tubs has the same mix of herbal crap in them regardless of name, as BB said do the shopping at alinshop, great prices on real pharmgrade tabs
u will notice the difference when u take the real stuff, any changes to youre phsyic is purely b/c of training, u would have had a placebo affect from them fake tabs
that site dosent allow for steriods to be sold only research goods for youre rat

lostwars
06-11-2009, 10:34 AM
just looking at youre photos, if i were you id get around 6-8 mths training natty into me and then id do a bulk cycle, eat big and train big, at least that way u could get some real muscle on youre frame which u can tone up along the way
set a goal of this time next year and take some photos post pct and you will notice big changes
anyhow best of luck in whatever u decide to do

Jello
06-11-2009, 10:38 AM
send a bottle to an independent lab and find out whats in it

Bump Joe. I would want to know what I was taking before continuing. Either that or throw it in the garbage.

Tyrone
06-11-2009, 01:49 PM
Get real var from Alinshop...The stuff you bought is prob. a prohormone or lesser.

PitViper33
06-11-2009, 04:15 PM
you are not taking oxandrolone(real anavar) your taking oxantrione and im not familiar with it at all sorry man, but damn dude you shouldve done your research(diet,training,aas) in that order,,, with the money you spent on that garbage you couldve hired a trainer

ojs
06-11-2009, 04:57 PM
you shouldve done your research(diet,training,aas) in that order,,, with the money you spent on that garbage you couldve hired a trainer
Ain't that the truth!:rolleyes:

The BB Monad
06-11-2009, 05:17 PM
Well, at least you learnt your lesson (I hope)... Forget it bro. We've all messed up before, one way or the other.

The important thing is that now you're here, you've recognized your mistakes and areas you need to improve so now get to work and realize your dreams.

We will be around for more help if you need us and so will Alinshop! ;)

newuser11
06-11-2009, 05:33 PM
you need to work on the cardio a bit more as well. If 20 mins is all you can do than thats fine try to push another minute or 2 more every few days. 20 mins of cardio will burn about 200 calories so it would take you 17-18 sessions to burn 1 pound of fat from the cardio.
Also dont buy shit from banners on sites or in the back of magazines either. you can get stuff easy enough on the streets or get from Alin like everyone does here including me.

Alin
06-11-2009, 06:01 PM
I don't think those in that banner are the real stuff!!!

Anyway, as for the weight loss expected... we're all different! I am on 50mg daily (real anavar) and am losing like shit... but I am also on T3, Primo, Sust, Eq and ECA.

Maybe you should shop at Alinshop!!!

If its the banner i'm thinking of the 'VAR 10' you purchased is not a real AAS.
As mentioned if you want REAL oxandrolone (ANAVAR) check out alinshop.

Dizzee
06-12-2009, 07:17 AM
I'll tell you a little history about myself. At the end of 2005 I was 18 stone 9lb of solely fat with a 42 inch waist. Immediately after finishing 6th form I got lazy, drank and ate bad for a years and put loads of weight on about 4 stone of it and stretch marks to boot. In 2006 I concentrated on Cardio doing about 1 - 1/2 hours a day and I managed to hit a recorded low of 14 stone 12lb and back down to a 36 waist I'm still just about a 36 now but it's a bit tighter than it used to be.

Somewhere along the way I made a transition from doing Cardio only to doing Cardio and a bit of weights to weights only. I'm back up to 16 stone 9lb now and with being only slightly bigger at the waist I can't believe it would be all fat but obviously I should look a lot better than I do over that time scale and if I'm honest I don't look much better now than I did 12 months ago although people who haven't seen me for a while do comment that I have got bigger. I look a lot better with a t shirt on though because I have broad shoulders and my stomach doesn't really stick out it's just wide.

Anyway enough waffling about the past to the guy who said I need to up my cardio I recently bought a fitness DVD and it has a choice of cardio and advanced cardio and I still struggle near the end of the cardio but I am getting close. When I can do that comfortable I will move on to the advanced cardio and eventually do them back to back is the plan. I wanted to use the anavar to speed up the process of losing fat and then I could bulk cleanly and put muscle on. I have received a diet plan from Mrs Mott and I am making a list of shopping to buy when I go shopping on Monday when I will have the money. I'm determined that all the time I spend in the gym is not going to be a waste from now on.

mrsmott33
06-12-2009, 08:18 AM
If u really want this and u r dedicated, diciplined and work hard u will reach ur goals. That diet is AWESOME I am living proof that it works but its not easy. I struggle with the diet cause I love junk food but since I have been seeing the results I am getting it has become easier to stick to it. If u want it bad enough u will do it!!!! Work hard, eat right and be determined and u will acheive ur goals!!!!!

loganrunn
06-13-2009, 10:35 AM
Not real stuff My man..... And once you accept that you will move on.

Here is what I suggest:

Cardio - EMPTY STOMACH IN THE A.M. ONLY FOR MINIMUM 30 MINUTES

Training - To me, your overtraining. I would google DOGGCRAPP training and do that format. The best training I have done and MAXIMUM REST

gear - Get yourself some real stuff

375RANGER
06-13-2009, 01:22 PM
hey this is a great thread. this is what makes this place what it is. no need to torch or hammer on. good luck dizzee

Dizzee
06-14-2009, 06:40 AM
I emailed to ask if I could send the stuff back and they said I could and gave me the address. I sent them yesterday but coming from the UK will take a week or so. I won't get a full refund but anything is better than nothing. Will be interesting to see what I get. That's if it passes through customs that is.

loganrunn
06-19-2009, 11:10 PM
Dizzee:

Its actually good that you went through that..... Because you will never do it again.

Logan

Dizzee
06-20-2009, 10:24 AM
They are sending me a cheque worth $382. I have to be satisfied with that I think.

This ALLINSHOP that you all suggest do they ship to the UK? Would it not get stopped through the post being illegal?

joe4fsu
06-20-2009, 11:14 AM
They are sending me a cheque worth $382. I have to be satisfied with that I think.

This ALLINSHOP that you all suggest do they ship to the UK? Would it not get stopped through the post being illegal?


go to alinshop.in and they will ship to the UK