test question...

[bdog]

ok like 5yrs ago i had pretty bad acne. just on my face,never on back or anywhere else..anyways i got on accutane then and it cleared it up real good and haven't had any real problems since...ok real question is if i do a test only cycle at 500wk..what are my chances or would like EQ only cylce or something of that nature be better for someone of my predisposition...i've also got B-5 capsules..

[sTaTic]

your going to get a little acne no matter what you take. the trick is to keep your test levels elevated. instead of doing one shot a week, your better off doing them spread out through the week.

[bdog]

hey appreciate the info...i guess i really won't know till try!!
you think the effects wouldn't be as bad using sust. instead of test e? at 500wk...i know their's alot of differnent oppions..i'm just trying to gain all the knowledge for i start anything..so i appreciate all the info i get here!!

[sTaTic]

i personally like sus but i have used test e also. test e is probably easier to keep a steady level because sus is a blend of 4 esters that release at diff times. it's really preference but for the money and amt of test... test e is a better choice

[bdog]

appreciate all the help static......

[sTaTic]

anytime bro

[tomcat724]

i personally like sus but i have used test e also. test e is probably easier to keep a steady level because sus is a blend of 4 esters that release at diff times. it's really preference but for the money and amt of test... test e is a better choice
i agree with static on this one... no matter what you take you will get a little bit of a breakout.. i usually get it on the shoulders but its really not all that bad and clears in a few days... also for the money test e is always a better buy... and it does come down to preference... i have used both sust and test e and have gotten the same gains from both... they are pritty much about even excpet the sus is time released differently...

[bdog]

alright appreciate the info tomcat...

[Gregalmighty]

The bro's are leading you in the right direction. I like the sus blends personally although last cycle was test e. All tests have similar effects so try different cycles (over a long period of timeof course) and find what you like. The big difference is release time of the active agent.ie long and short esters.
I see a lot of people using both.begin with short and long until until long esters kick in,usually a few weeks,then stick with long esters until the last couple weeks then go with just short esters so you can begin PCT sooner which helps to keep your gains.

[Cockney nutjob]

Hi bro,

If you want to read what is probably the best post on Test that I've seen in a long while check out Ching's post that I think is in the Newbie forum.
It should give you all the info you'll need on Test.

I don't want to sound like I'm trying to teach my granny to suck eggs, but if you want a really mild cycle why not try Primo & Var?
I know Primo is usually viewed as a cutting drug but I think you can make some nice, solid gains on it and with praticaly no sides at all.
Sure you'll never get the dramatic size & strength gains as with a Test based cycle but if androgen related sides are a concern, then why not give it a go?

Anyway, regardless of what you decide to run with I hope it works out for you Bro.

Best,

C nj

[bdog]

appreciate the heads up cockney...you know though f***it...i never know unless i try it..i'm gonna try that Iranian sh**..like 1amp every 4-5 days for 10wk..and just keep takin b-5 and hit the tanning bed..i should be fine!!

[Cockney nutjob]

Hi Bdog,

Let us know how you get on.

C nj

[bdog]

still want to hit the gym for few more weeks and get my diet alittle more straighten out...but i'll keep you guys informed...

[Beetlejuice]

The thing about sust that I like is some of the immediate effects (I am kind of an impatient bastard), and then some of the long term effects that come from the other esters blended in. According to what you read blending esters should reduce sides right? From what I know from myself and others, single esters in general seem to have less sides. I always get acne on the outsides of my upper arms (bicep tricep areas)with sust, nothing big just little bitty bubbles about the size of a pin head. I would use the test e probably if I were avoiding sides.

[theshiz777]

personally i would stick with test prop, imo i wouldnt do eq without test anyhow,and have some accutane on hand just in case

[soulmate]

Nobody really knows why but sustenon for some unknown reason dosn't aromatize as much as any of the other tests. Also you hold less water ! I have taken sust. every 10 days at your dose (500) and have gained solid mostly muscle in a very short time without any adverse effects. The first time I ran sust I wasn't very pleased at all but I didn't give it my best all out effort. Thats the most important part of any cycle not what your using but the strict workout, schedule, and supplements. I still believe most of the people who use the gear are doing alot more then is necessary. And all this stacking is overkill. Unless your earning a living on muscles you go ahead and do your 500 of sust. and after 4 weeks start 10 mg. of nolv. a day and on the last 4 weeks add 25mg. proviron with clen ( take the clen progressively till you get the shakes then stop and go back 20mcg. ) continue all the anti-estrogens till the end of the sust for 4 more weeks,then end it with two weeks of clomid. (100mg. 1st week 50mg. 2nd week ) If you start to feel any less libido add 2500 iu of HCG every 5 days after or during your sust. cycle I doubt very much if you show any adverse side effects ! You can even go long term (months) if it's called for ! You won't even have any nipple pain with the nolv.,and your wife or girlfriend will never miss you ! only taking 10mg of nolv a.d. Oh my God thats all the nolv. your taking ! What about the 40mg or 30mg of nolv. ? You don't need it ! You also have the proviron & clen (both very good anti-estrogens. You won't be poisoning your body with unnecessary dosages & gear ! When I convinced my workout partner to this he was outraged and cynical. But he did it in a bad state of mind but was very pleased at the end and he kept most of the gains ! Now he is thinking if he doubles everything he will do twice as well ! You can't win. Anyway go ahead and do your 500 sust and don't worry about the early esters in sust, once you pass 3 or 4 days the longer lasting esters will be running the show and the early esters would of have did there job and will continue to add a pick-me-up every 10 days. If you do this please come back here and tell everyone about it ! Good luck whatever you do. soulmate

[soulmate]

Bulldog,if I were you I would be very carefull doing anything from Iran, (The amps going to the western world have an X on the bottom of the glass!) remember the "ayatolah Khoemani " or however you spell his f**king name. You know I am just kidding but I won't do anything from there. All of there citizens and pharmaceutical labs have dart boards with uncle sam and arnold on the bullseyes ! Let me know how things turn out,if you can't write yourself for whatever reason have your wife or sister describe your condition to me. What was that stuff called ? I believe it was anthrax or something like that. But who am I to judge anyone and what do I know ? Anyway good luck with your daring experime.. I mean cycle. soulmate

[bdog]

listen to soulmate...are you tryin to scare the sh** out of me or what!!!!
lol....just put the order in so we'll see.....

[Gregalmighty]

Screw iran! But they got good shit! Their test is some of the best out there but from what soulmate says..........i'm stickin to mutivitamins and overpriced celltech :D

[bdog]

i hear ya on that brotha, but quality sh** is quality sh**......

[anaholic]

From what Ive seen the mega doses of accutane a dermatologist gives does something to the sebaceous gland, it never does excrete as much oil as it did, anyway about your cycle of test all you have to do is take 10mg per day of roche brand accutane for three days.two days later you wont have a zit anywhere, you will remain zit free for at least 3 weeks.