worst day ever

[tatteredxangelx]

Today, is the worst day I ever ... i took my last shot of Test cyp & anadrol tab for the cycle ... anyways ... when should I start my clomid/nolvadex therapy ... I have 30 50mg tabs of clomid ... i was thinking 10 days of 100mg, and than 10 of 50 ... i have never done this b4 ... What day should I start ... and when should I expect to stop losing my fucking hair?! (its the anadrol doing it, not the test)

and btw i am much more concerned with keeping my strenght than my size!!!

[Kaiser]

Today, is the worst day I ever ... i took my last shot of Test cyp & anadrol tab for the cycle ... anyways ... when should I start my clomid/nolvadex therapy ... I have 30 50mg tabs of clomid ... i was thinking 10 days of 100mg, and than 10 of 50 ... i have never done this b4 ... What day should I start ... and when should I expect to stop losing my fucking hair?! (its the anadrol doing it, not the test)

and btw i am much more concerned with keeping my strenght than my size!!!

Hehe, been there, did that. I used to stand in front of the mirror pulling it out like a crack addict. Then I said fuck it one day and just shaved it. Luckily I have a good shaped head. Anyway, with what you took, you'll probably want to start PCT 2 weeks after your last shot. some people will argue this back and forth and say start it the week you end, but I and alot of others feel you should wait until some of the esters have worn off. You have it about right for dosages, but you can do 100mg for a week and 50mg for 2 weeks after.

[tatteredxangelx]

thx kai, but when is my hair gunna stop shedding!

[Kaiser]

thx kai, but when is my hair gunna stop shedding!

Thats a hard mentally painful road man, and no one can predict it. I even went the Rogaine way for a year until I just said fugit. Started thinning around your age too, I know it sucks.

[tatteredxangelx]

it just started when i started taking anadrol ... 20 wekes of test/tren/winny didnt do a thing, so i know its the 'drol ... once the drol is out of my system (its pure DHT or something) it will stop riht?

[Kaiser]

it just started when i started taking anadrol ... 20 wekes of test/tren/winny didnt do a thing, so i know its the 'drol ... once the drol is out of my system (its pure DHT or something) it will stop riht?


Stay off the drol brother. At 19 your too young to fuck yourself up with that stuff. Too many sides with Drol. To this day I haven't touched the stuff because of horror stories from my friends. You know, the normal pissing blood, nose bleeds, yellowing of the eyes... All your normal fun stuff in life :D

[tatteredxangelx]

YOUR STILL NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION!!! lol i have been on drol for 3 weeks and for a week my hair has been falling out ... do you think it will stop soon now that im done ? (no drol ever again )

[Kaiser]

YOUR STILL NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION!!! lol i have been on drol for 3 weeks and for a week my hair has been falling out ... do you think it will stop soon now that im done ? (no drol ever again )

Ooo, sorry, brain fart. That's hard to tell. No one could really predict that. The reason being? If you are just losing it because of the Drol, it will stop. BUT if the Drol sped up your growth as far as aging and you have alopecia as a genetic problem, it will continue. Mine was the later to be truthful with you. D-Bol made me an old man before my time I guess. I probably only would have hung on to it for 5-8 years longer anyway however. My mother's father was bald.

[tatteredxangelx]

both my grandfathers had hair til they died ... and 1500mg of test for 12 weeks and i didnt lose a follicle, 20mg of winny for 30 days, didnt lose a follicle, a dbol only cycle, m1t like candy ... no hair loss, its just this drol ... i dont think 3 weeks would really speed up my aging process, and it would be really ironic, if the test did it right when i started the drol, ya know ?

[Kaiser]

both my grandfathers had hair til they died ... and 1500mg of test for 12 weeks and i didnt lose a follicle, 20mg of winny for 30 days, didnt lose a follicle, a dbol only cycle, m1t like candy ... no hair loss, its just this drol ... i dont think 3 weeks would really speed up my aging process, and it would be really ironic, if the test did it right when i started the drol, ya know ?


Sounds like you may get lucky then. Hard to describe what I am saying about the aging process. It preserves age at a certain point in life (when you're old) and ages you at a certain point in life (when you're young). Mileage I guess.

[tatteredxangelx]

oh i know what yer saying ... i look 26 and feel 80 ... good for going into bars ... bad when milfs hit on you and find out your age :D

[Kaiser]

I'm not a doctor, but I always looked at it this way. If you are younger than when you would peak at growth and have the most natural testoterone, then it will age you to that point quickly, fusing bones, hair growth, hair loss, etc. Once you pass that by a margin and you would normally start dropping in testosterone, it think actually keeps you younger (well, besides liver, kidney and cardio wear). Sort of a speed you up to keep you at a constant age. But brother, believe me when I tell you, take it light because you're gonna want kids some day probably and you don't want it to come to desparatism.

[tatteredxangelx]

yeh i dunt give a fuck about small nuts, heart kidney, liver blah blah , but i wna have lil juiceheads!!! btw kaisar, steroids dont mess up your heart ... it was shown that heavy weight training for years on end is what increases the size of yer heart ... GH does increase it tho ,.

[Kaiser]

yeh i dunt give a fuck about small nuts, heart kidney, liver blah blah , but i wna have lil juiceheads!!! btw kaisar, steroids dont mess up your heart ... it was shown that heavy weight training for years on end is what increases the size of yer heart ... GH does increase it tho ,.


Nearly all AAS raises your blood pressure because they double your red blood cell count. That is what I mean by cardio. It does come down a bit, but it will probably not drop to where it was originally after years of use.

[Kaiser]

Oh, and don't forget enlargening of the heart. Your heart is the most used muscle don't forget, it will grow.

[tatteredxangelx]

find this study kaisar ... the heart doenst grow from steroids ... it grows regardless

Dickermen, R.D, Schaller, F., MoConathy, W.J Left Ventrical Thickening Occurs In Elite Strength Athletes With or Without Anabolic Steroid Use. Cardiology 90)2):145-148, 1998

[Kaiser]

find this study kaisar ... the heart doenst grow from steroids ... it grows regardless

Dickermen, R.D, Schaller, F., MoConathy, W.J Left Ventrical Thickening Occurs In Elite Strength Athletes With or Without Anabolic Steroid Use. Cardiology 90)2):145-148, 1998


I'll look it up, thanks. I was always under the impression that it did however. I know it grows with age, but I'll hear them out. Either way, you know there is probably contradicting studies out there. That's what make this stuff so hard to decipher. Everyone's an expert ya know? Only, they all do their tests with different baselines. So in the end how do we guage?

[tatteredxangelx]

hehe placebo effect ... i read the studies i want and feel totally healthy ... oddly enuf, when i got my bloodwork done ... everything was normal except my WHITE blood cell count was extremely high ... i wasnt sick, or injured so logical signs point to cancer :o wich would be lame

[Kaiser]

It will and always has raised blood pressure however, which is a great strain on the heart and can cause a stroke.

[Kaiser]

hehe placebo effect ... i read the studies i want and feel totally healthy ... oddly enuf, when i got my bloodwork done ... everything was normal except my WHITE blood cell count was extremely high ... i wasnt sick, or injured so logical signs point to cancer :o wich would be lame


It might just be a shock to your system from a gear down. Red blood cells high when on so when you go off, if they haven't had a chance to do a full circle once the AAS is out of your system, your body may naturally slow down on red cell count making your white seem high. Best guess, but again, I'm no doctor. OuchThatHurts would probably be able to figure out why better than me. He's has a PHD and a shit load of formal human anatomy schooling.

[tatteredxangelx]

im going for my MD, just so i can get one of those bad ass lab coats and cut the sleeves off ... Dr Dianabol :D

[Kaiser]

im going for my MD, just so i can get one of those bad ass lab coats and cut the sleeves off ... Dr Dianabol :D


Keep losing your hair it'll be more like Dr. Evil... :D :D :D

[tatteredxangelx]

got a funny guy :mad:


lol

[opusx]

you 2 love birds having a nice conversation here :D

3 pages of just the 2 of you, this is an A board first.

definitely 2 weeks for PCT. don't listen to too many others here for PCT advise, alot of them will tell you a few days even after a long ester. as far as the hair, it will take a while till it gets back to normal. It took years for me to accept, my hairline has been receding since my early to mid 20's

[anaholic]

next time have proscar on hand when you take anadrol, it will stop the hairloss, it is made from saw pallametto berries, you can also buy saw pallamento berry extract at the drug store, take 240mg per day in divided dosages, it will stop your hair from falling out, it blocks the receptor site on the hair folicule.
start the clomid 1 week after your last shot
you wont need to take nolvadex unless your nipples are sore or puffy, its better to have on hand any time during a cycle just incase your nipples get sore or puffy, if this happens then take the nolvadex,

[samcam]

[QUOTE=opusx]you 2 love birds having a nice conversation here

3 pages of just the 2 of you, this is an A board first.


Their just warming us up with a little pillow talk :D

[sampson101]

For the two love birds-
I took my first cycle when I was 19 and have done one since, now I am 24 . I started losing hair after my second cycle and I got on propecia and havebeen since. But I have not been on it while cycling. This will be an experiment. Do you guys know what happens with the propecia and vitamin S combo?

[Kaiser]

For the two love birds-
I took my first cycle when I was 19 and have done one since, now I am 24 . I started losing hair after my second cycle and I got on propecia and havebeen since. But I have not been on it while cycling. This will be an experiment. Do you guys know what happens with the propecia and vitamin S combo?


I honestly don't know first hand brother. Rogaine was the only thing out at the time (early 90s) when I had my nuclear fallout so I can't speak with knowledge on it, and I have never used Vit S. :D

[anaholic]

rogaine doesnt work, propecia is just a light dose of proscar, you get the same thing by cutting the proscar in fourths

[Kaiser]

rogaine doesnt work

I found that out the hard way... lol. :p

[Alin]

Today, is the worst day I ever ... i took my last shot of Test cyp & anadrol tab for the cycle ... anyways ... when should I start my clomid/nolvadex therapy ... I have 30 50mg tabs of clomid ... i was thinking 10 days of 100mg, and than 10 of 50 ... i have never done this b4 ... What day should I start ... and when should I expect to stop losing my fucking hair?! (its the anadrol doing it, not the test)

and btw i am much more concerned with keeping my strenght than my size!!!


I would start the PCT 2 wks after last Test Cyp inject.