Masteron/Cycle advice

[RANGER75]

Sry I posted this in the stealth section, but it should belong in here.

Hey,

I am wanting to cut, but keep doing a long ester chain because I hear stealth sus is bad. My question is about masteron. Does the stealth masteron have any good fat burning qualities. I am 13 percent bf, and I hear that masteron only makes people in the single digits look hard, but does not effect people in double digit bfs. Is this true with the stealth?

Thinking about doing a bulk, and then cut cycle.

15 weeks test e 700/wk
8 weeks of deca 500/wk (newbie)
7 wks of 50mg winny ed ( I am newbie with winny, should I do eod?)
5-6 wks masteron 100mg eod (newbie)

I plan to start test e and deca first, and once done with deca then I start winny and masteron. Would you reccomend that a newbie to both try each one seperately? could masteron or winny be done effectively without test?
Give me feedback.

[Dominator Human]

Sry I posted this in the stealth section, but it should belong in here.

Hey,

I am wanting to cut, but keep doing a long ester chain because I hear stealth sus is bad. My question is about masteron. Does the stealth masteron have any good fat burning qualities. I am 13 percent bf, and I hear that masteron only makes people in the single digits look hard, but does not effect people in double digit bfs. Is this true with the stealth?

Thinking about doing a bulk, and then cut cycle.

15 weeks test e 700/wk
8 weeks of deca 500/wk (newbie)
7 wks of 50mg winny ed ( I am newbie with winny, should I do eod?)
5-6 wks masteron 100mg eod (newbie)

I plan to start test e and deca first, and once done with deca then I start winny and masteron. Would you reccomend that a newbie to both try each one seperately? could masteron or winny be done effectively without test?
Give me feedback.

From your questions and what you posted it seems as if you are new to gear.

You are going to need to do some research before you start. I can't answer your questions about Masteron as I have never used it, but I can tell you a few other things.

1. If you are looking to cut you should not use Deca. Don't Use Deca for your first cycle as you don't know the effects of any steroid in your system. With that must Test and Deca you may get gyno real quick.

2. When you do use Deca you will want to run it for 14 weeks and always run the Test at a higher dose for 2 weeks longer.

Post your age, ht, wt, and how long you've been training

[RANGER75]

I'm not new to gear. I have done a few test/eq cycles with no sides. I just wanted to get some opinions. I did four weeks of balkan dbol at 40mg and felt bloated the whole time. Besides that I have not done anything else. I just wanted to get some opinions on the effects of masteron and winny.

[willie99]

Im not sure what you're after here. It looks as if you wanna cut up.

Drop the deca and use Eq instead. Take 500 test not 700 and take 600 eq and use the winny for the final 6 weeks of your cycle with the masteron. Although I wouldnt advise masteron for you ... not yet.

If you wanna cut up a bit, get your diet and training with cardio straight and do a 16 weeker test, 14 weeks eq and winny friom week 12-17, then start PCT week 18, 1 day after last winny intake.

just my 2 cents when it comes to cutting up a bit. If you truly wanna loose loads of fat you might be looking at just a keto diet and clen or something with prop.

[RANGER75]

Thanks man, i dont have a lot of fat to lose lol. I just wanted to bulk and then go straight to cutting. I have tried the eq but I think most of my results were from the test so I might go with deca this time to try it out. I want to try either winny or masteron but probably not both because I want to see which one gives me good results (if I take both then I won't know) (I made the big mistake of not doing just test c for my first cycle). Right now I will probably go with masteron because I am not a fan of balkan orals.

[walk252]

Ur good man give a try and see how it goes. alot of people love masteron and they feel it helps them cut well

[Majestic07]

Lets start with this:

15 weeks test e 700/wk
8 weeks of deca 500/wk (newbie)
7 wks of 50mg winny ed ( I am newbie with winny, should I do eod?)
5-6 wks masteron 100mg eod (newbie)

First, Deca should be run at least 12 weeks (most often 14 as stated above).

Second, dump the masteron and stick with the winny. Get injectables if you can over orals!

Third, you would be better off do stick with a classic cutting cycle as opposed to bulk then cut. I would go with:

Test-P @ 100mg EDO Weeks(1-8)
Winny @ 50mg ED Week(4-8)
Post Cycle….

[RANGER75]

I like your thinkin, but I hear winny depot destroys your joints. Do you mean test-p every other day?

[tdizzle28]

If you're just looking to cut...

Test P 100mg's EOD WKS 1-8
Mast 100mg's EOD WKS 1-8
Anavar 40-50mg's ED WKS 1-8
Start PCT 1 week after last pin

Nice and simple. Just make sure your diet, exercise, and rest are in order and you'll get fantastic results.

[Jello]

If you're just looking to cut...

Test P 100mg's EOD WKS 1-8
Mast 100mg's EOD WKS 1-8
Anavar 40-50mg's ED WKS 1-8
Start PCT 1 week after last pin

Nice and simple. Just make sure your diet, exercise, and rest are in order and you'll get fantastic results.

^^^^^^Bump

And the rest of you guys need to remember that Mast is also very effective at making other compounds more effective, not just cutting fat/making you harder.

[RANGER75]

anavar? What do you think im loaded? Would winny or tren be a solution? I hear winny wrecks your joints and tren's sides are crazy, but I would love the super strenght it gives.

[tdizzle28]

anavar? What do you think im loaded? Would winny or tren be a solution? I hear winny wrecks your joints and tren's sides are crazy, but I would love the super strenght it gives.

You can substitue the var with winstrol, however, I would do it either the first four weeks or the last four, by no means run it the whole eight...it is bad for your joints.
I suggested the var because along with being milder on your liver, it does everything winstrol does, and also gives you the added benefit of burning visceral fat. Contrary to most people's belief, winstrol does not burn fat. You can run whatever you want, you seemed to be looking for suggestions for a cycle and I offered my suggestion.

[RANGER75]

I might have changed my mind. Is the balkan anavar any good? Could I use tren ace insted or would that be too harsh of a cycle.

[tdizzle28]

I might have changed my mind. Is the balkan anavar any good? Could I use tren ace insted or would that be too harsh of a cycle.

It sounds like you need to do some digging on what compounds do what and the pros/cons of each. If you go through and read peoples reactions to how they liked tren, you will see that most people like the strength gains, but hated the sides associated with the compound. Tren is very harsh on your kidneys, so you need to make sure your fluid intake is up to par with at least a gallon of fluids every day. If it's the cost, tren will definantly be cheaper. If it's the strength gains, if you read up on steroidprofiles.com, you will see that anavar's anabolic rating is rated at or above that of tren. If you decide to run tren, try four weeks in either the beginning or the end of that cycle. Also, if you go with the tren, run the winstrol with it, winstrol will help prevent progesterone related gyno. The masteron in the cycle will help dry you out and it also helps to prevent estrogen related gyno, giving you a break on running an A.I. during your cycle. All of this information is available on this website and you can find it running simple searches. These are potentially harmful compounds if used incorrectly and you are taking someone else's word on what it will and will not do. Do your body a favor and do the homework, otherwise you may pay for misuse for the rest of your life.

The cycle I laid out for you before is your safest bet for a cutting cycle with the least amount of side effects, it will cost more, but the extra money you spend may save the taxing on your body. Again, don't take my or anyone else's word for it, do your own homework and be knowledgable about what you put into your body.

[RANGER75]

Ok, thanks man. I have some extra a-dex at home so if I added tren for the last 4 weeks, could I use that instead of winny? Just wonderin.

[tdizzle28]

Ok, thanks man. I have some extra a-dex at home so if I added tren for the last 4 weeks, could I use that instead of winny? Just wonderin.

Armidex and other A.I.'s are for estrogen related gyno, not progresterone...go read, I'm done spoon feeding. You don't to seem to have any clue what you want to accomplish or what any compounds do...it is very clear you have done zero research. Your compounds change with every post. I'm sure in eight weeks we'll see you back here complaining about leaky nipples or some other ill side effect asking what you can do to make things better.:rolleyes:

[RANGER75]

I've been doin research, but it is difficult to get the real info on what these compounds are about. On paper it is different. I guess I will go with this stack

Weeks 1-8
100mg Masteron EOD
100mg Test prop EOD
50-100mg Tren ace EOD (weeks 5-8)

PCT

How does that look?

[RANGER75]

anyone?

[awelch]

Thinking about doing a bulk, and then cut cycle.

15 weeks test e 700/wk
8 weeks of deca 500/wk (newbie)
7 wks of 50mg winny ed ( I am newbie with winny, should I do eod?)
5-6 wks masteron 100mg eod (newbie)




How you have it the deca isn't run long enough for one. The test you should probably bring down to 500/wk if your a newbie maybe switch to prop if you can handle the EOD pins and want to keep a little leaner. I'd take out the masteron its really more for contest prep in the last few weeks. It looks like your trying to do a blast and shred type of cycle which i wouldn't recommend for a newbie. if you want to bulk and then cut down do a bulking cycle take a couple months off and then do a cutting cycle.


edit: just saw this you wrote:

Weeks 1-8
100mg Masteron EOD
100mg Test prop EOD
50-100mg Tren ace EOD (weeks 5-8)


IMO keep the prop maybe replace the masteron with winny(wks1-5) and definitely take out the tren

[RANGER75]

Thanks, AWelch, I appreciate your advice. Does anyone else have any opinions to give?