one more HCG thing

[RANGER75]

Hey guys,

I just finished my 16 week cycle of test c and eq. Was running test 500mg wk and eq 500 mg wk.

My last inject was 7 days ago.

I have 5000 IU of HCG and a good amount of clomid,

Should I even use the HCG? or should I just use the clomid?

I should have planned this earlier, and it was stupid on my part.

[superbeast22]

You should have used the hcg on cycle...

[PitViper33]

i think sb ment you should have used hcg on cycle

[superbeast22]

typo, sorry, i was popping clomid as i wrote that

[lostwars]

its up to youreself alot of ppl use hcg during a cycle and for pct
the reason being is so youre balls arent totally redundant which will have happened to you b/c you have been on for a considerable amount of time, the use of hcg keeps them firing so to spaek so when it comes to starting pct they will begin to produce test again much faster
the best way i ever heard it described was, if u were jumping a car with jump leads lighting a spark say
youre gonna ned to find an anti estrogen from somewere to go with youre clomid, and you could inject 1000iu e3d hcg starting on the same date as u begin youre A1 and clomid
but if u use the hcg without an A1 you will cause youre estrogen levels to rise sharply so be careful

[giff]

i wouldnt use hcg during pct if you have 7 days until your pct starts then you could run the hcg up until then up to you

[~~<StrengthbyGod>~~]

hcg in pct = dumb dumb dumb

[RANGER75]

I do have a lot of clomid and a good amount of arimadex, so should I use the AI too and if so, how much?

[willie99]

AI and HCG = during cycle.

SERM = PCT.

Save this note :)

[~~<StrengthbyGod>~~]

I do have a lot of clomid and a good amount of arimadex, so should I use the AI too and if so, how much?

You should run the arimadex at .25mg ED only during the cycle.

[RANGER75]

should I run just clomid in about a week and half (140mg/day)?

[RANGER75]

so does this mean I should just run clomid? 120mg day.

[willie99]

100-150 for 3-4 weeks will do. Any more and you might experience emotional side effects.

[lostwars]

listen bro its upto youreself which way u want to do this, but you have been on cycle now for 16wks
you will recover much faster using the hcg in youre pct, i and many others now see the benifit to doing this and theres research that proves it, firstly its better to use hcg during cycle and you scored a major own goal over looking this point, you are shut down and hard at the moment, using hcg will get youre balls producing much faster than if u decide not to use it
the standard dose of hcg is 5000iu, and as we know the medical profession always side with caution, while us BB will always push the boat out a little, ie for TRT they would give u a shot of 100mg of test cyp a wk maybe which we know wouldnt build alot of muscle, so when i say inject 1000iu of hcg E3D its a small dose but it will improve youre chances of recovery in faster time
as i said before inject 1000iu of hcg E3D on the same day u start youre other pct drugs,
a good time for you to start pct would be 2wks after youre last shot of aas
i used hcg on my last pct and it was the best pct i ever done, im from ireland but i read the news the other day that a baseball player was banned for use of hcg
so if he was using hcg whaen was he using it? during cycle, obviously not, or they would have found out what AAS he was using as they would stay in the system much longer
all the evidence says he was using it for pct, as it was the only substance detected

ill try and find an intresting study which proves the use of hcg during pct works and at doses upto 2500iu EOD, some ppl here just peddle out shit they read here and there and take it for fact, they shoot down new protocols without ever trying them, in my opinion THATS STUPID STUPID STUPID

[lostwars]

listen guys ill have to get me bro to upload this info for you when he gets back from his trip to the states
this research has been proven to work and is published in a major authors book on steroids and there affects, he is a leading player when it comes to testing AAS and is an honest guy, im grateful hes around
the pct im refering to is called a power pct, some of you may well know who im refering to,as he has his own board it wouldnt be fair of me to give it out here as alin does provide a great site here so you will have to find this other forum youreselfs

the pct is as follows

hcg 2500iu EOD x 16days
clomid 50mg twice a day x 30days
nolva 20mg x 45days

[drob29]

There is alot of conflicting information about HCG and PCT, and when / how to use HCG. The more you read the more confusing it becomes.

My experience is that HCG should never be used for PCT as it actually inhibits natural test production and recovery. I rely on Swales Protocol, and I used that with terriffic success when coming off cycle.

People can cut and paste and post authors and studies all they want, I bet there are very detailed medical studies supporting both ways. Ultimatley, you need to do what you believe to be the most trusted info, it's your body.

(hint: On cycle, never off cycle or for PCT) :cool:

[lostwars]

i agree, that sometimes theres all sorts of theorys flying about, and unfortunately its upto us most times as the individual to believe what we read, but thats the beauty of the net i suppose
you find what works for you and stick to it, thats my belief anyhow, there will be things that work and things that dont, theres always new advances in this game which is a good thing