minimum prop cycle length?

[aussiebum]

hey all, i have been doing a fair bit of research into prop as i think it will really appeal to my goals in the future, i have searched on other forums but i like take the advice off this one alot better as i know which members give good advice.

so here is my question, what is the minimum length of time you would reccomend running prop? as i would like to try in future cycle's, much shorter cycles more frequently and see if i recover a lot better rather than long cycles and going through a massive PCT phase and losing weight/strength post cycle. input appreciated :D

[willie99]

Just did it for 8 weeks (100 eod) .. I liked the results. It's been 7 weeks now and I dont feel like I lost a bit. Strenght is a little less but well ...

[aussiebum]

Just did it for 8 weeks (100 eod) .. I liked the results. It's been 7 weeks now and I dont feel like I lost a bit. Strenght is a little less but well ...

yeh this is the sort of thing im looking for the reasons you stated willie, i like the idea of the shorter cycle, i was thinking around 5-6 weeks though, how did you feel at that time in your cycle?

[dudcki27]

I've also done an eight weeker at 150mg eod and had great results. I've also read about short burst cycles on different forums and the people that do them really love it. But you have to do a higher dose to really benifit from it some did 200mg or more eod and said it was the best gains they ever had.

[lostwars]

alot of ppl reckon faster esthers like prop attach to the muscle receptor and do the business within 2days, faster than along esther which seems to take more time to attach and do its job, so increase the dose of the prop EOD would do, and run it for 6wks
id make the most and add masteron, injectable winstrol or tren ace,
choose two off the above and you will be cut up like a da vinchi plaster model
these are known as blast cycles so increase the dose on all compounds b/c its a short cycle to really achieve the look u want
i personally will not run long esthers any more, alrite if youre staying on for trt
short esthers are the way to go

[aussiebum]

alot of ppl reckon faster esthers like prop attach to the muscle receptor and do the business within 2days, faster than along esther which seems to take more time to attach and do its job, so increase the dose of the prop EOD would do, and run it for 6wks
id make the most and add masteron, injectable winstrol or tren ace,
choose two off the above and you will be cut up like a da vinchi plaster model
these are known as blast cycles so increase the dose on all compounds b/c its a short cycle to really achieve the look u want
i personally will not run long esthers any more, alrite if youre staying on for trt
short esthers are the way to go

that sounds great advice, i like the idea of mast and winny thrown in, tren is a bit advanced for me at this stage.

when you say of increasing the doses, by how much would you reccomend?

would 150 mg eod suffice? this is goes for prop, winny and mast?

i am not an experienced user of aas so would you consider the above doses sufficeint? i would always rather go with the minimum requirement to get results i want.

also would my PCT be standard with the shorter "blast cycle" as it would with a standard 500mg 12 week test cycle?

thanks again

[willie99]

yeh this is the sort of thing im looking for the reasons you stated willie, i like the idea of the shorter cycle, i was thinking around 5-6 weeks though, how did you feel at that time in your cycle?

I felt pretty constant during the whole 8 weeks. I also took 50/d winny for the last 4 weeks. Like I said I liked the cycle a lot. I will be running a long cycle again this year though (5 months) with Test E. Probably starting next year I will only do 8 weekers Prop, possibly with orals. Recovering is so much sweeter. No setback at all for me.

As for PCT ... I did a standard 4 weeks Nolva run. 40/30/20 and 10g/d. No chlomid. During cycle I didnt use anything else in terms of AI's/SERM's. I didnt experience any sides.

[~~<StrengthbyGod>~~]

yeh this is the sort of thing im looking for the reasons you stated willie, i like the idea of the shorter cycle, i was thinking around 5-6 weeks though, how did you feel at that time in your cycle?

Aussie--

Test Prop has you raging by the end of week 1 and blown up by week 2.

5 or 6 weeks is an ideal amount of time to run it. It is like going 10 on enanthate. I am finishing a 10 week run on prop now and its been good but I should have been off weeks ago and i will go shorter next time.

[dudcki27]

My first cycle was 150mg prop eod and 100mg of masteron eod and is still my favorite cycle. And the great thing about masteron is that it'll help control the esrto converson ofthe prop so you shouldn't need any arimidex or letro unless you are very gyno prone. It's reason I only run dbol if I'm already on masteron.

[aussiebum]

thanks lads, im definately going to give the shorter prop cycles a go, see how i react and if its good like your experience then will stay that way from now in, def going to go with the mast and prob the winny, about to use winny in my current cycle for the first time so see how i go with it in regards to sides.

great information again

[Alin]

hey all, i have been doing a fair bit of research into prop as i think it will really appeal to my goals in the future, i have searched on other forums but i like take the advice off this one alot better as i know which members give good advice.

so here is my question, what is the minimum length of time you would reccomend running prop? as i would like to try in future cycle's, much shorter cycles more frequently and see if i recover a lot better rather than long cycles and going through a massive PCT phase and losing weight/strength post cycle. input appreciated :D

I would say a minimum of 6-8 weeks for TEST PROP.

[bigego615]

that sounds great advice, i like the idea of mast and winny thrown in, tren is a bit advanced for me at this stage.


Smart dude!! That is what I like to see. Sounds like you have done your research. I was thinking about cleaning up my current Test E cycle with maybe four weeks of Prop and Proviron or Masteron. (Mostly due to SuperBeast's thread on short esters. :D )

When I took Winny it dried the shit out of my joints! Almost to the point where it was too painful to do bench and squats. Knees and shoulders were the worst. That was at 50mg ED.

Best of luck. Keep us posted

[wafinale]

Im on my 5th week of Prop at 50mg ED along with winni at 100mg Ed and let me say that my strength increase is crazy ...im only eating 2000 cal and im still gaining strength as if i was on a mass phase eating 5000 cal a day!

im cutting up really nicely even though my weight has increased

in another week im taking out the winni and substituting it with masteron and tren A. ill let u know man ...good luck

[willie99]

Smart dude!! That is what I like to see. Sounds like you have done your research. I was thinking about cleaning up my current Test E cycle with maybe four weeks of Prop and Proviron or Masteron. (Mostly due to SuperBeast's thread on short esters. :D )

When I took Winny it dried the shit out of my joints! Almost to the point where it was too painful to do bench and squats. Knees and shoulders were the worst. That was at 50mg ED.

Best of luck. Keep us posted

I do that ... I run long esters for 4 months or so @ 500/week, then the final 4 weeks I take Prop @ 100 eod + winny @ 50, before PCT. Its a KICKASS finale :)

[lostwars]

prop 150mg eod wk 1-6

masteron 100mg eod wk 1-6

winstrol depot 50mg
zambon/desma brand eod wk 2-6 my favorite aas,powerful results over 4wks especially if u add tren ace at the same dose and length of time,if u dont fancy tren go with the anavar

anavar 40mg ed wk 2-6

proviron 50mg ed wk 1-6
hcg 750iu every 7days

pct
http://www.medibolics.com/ScallyVergelAstractHPGA.pdf

now 1st off this pct was used as pct for test cyp and deca over a 12 wk cycle
no mgs per wk were given of each compound, but if we imagine it was
200mg cyp
200mg deca
it was a quite moderate cyle in regards to what we do, but the rsults speak for themselves
the only supressive compound you are using is prop to an extent, so id divide the above pct protocol by half, starting 3-7days after youre last shot,ppl have reported injuries to tendons or a triness in the ligaments from the use of winstrol but if u use for 4-6wks max @50mg eod u will feel no affects, i promise

dont forget the foundations of any good gym user, during pct
creatine, high protein, vit c and e and i like the natty test booster 6-oxo
just hit the gym 3times a wk and aim for a workout around 60% of that while u were on cycle