need opinions

[ironworker184]

I've been doing deca & sustanon every other day not exceeding 400mg. each per week . My question is if "pin" day falls on a weekend which i'm taking off to recoop do i still take scheduled dose or wait till next workout day ?

[rAJJIN]

Hey my friend how i would do it is take that Deca only once per week, all in one shot. Take the sust eod or every third day.

dont worry about taking this stuff on workout days...its not like it kicks in same day..... worry more about keeping steady levels, so yes take it even if it is an off day from the gym.

[ironworker184]

steady levels...got it , THANKS ALOT !!

[tatteredxangelx]

bump rajjim, just make sure its EOD .. no m/w/f crap either ... m/w/f/sun/tues/thurs/sat/mon/wed...etc

[allnatty06]

take deca every three days, and take sust eod, trust me. Deca ed or eod is way too often, it's a long acting, and sust is a short acting which needs to be taken more often. Do this and you will see results much better, and your ass won't be a damn pin cushion....

[Kaiser]

take deca every three days, and take sust eod, trust me. Deca ed or eod is way too often, it's a long acting, and sust is a short acting which needs to be taken more often. Do this and you will see results much better, and your ass won't be a damn pin cushion....

This is not totally true. Please be sure you know what you are talking about as a new guy before giving advice brother. Sustanon has multiple esters which makes it quick acting and long lasting. originally designed to administer every 30 days or so by a doctor the half life is 14-15 days. The reason Raj stated what he stated is because it is hard to find the sweet spot with Sustanon where it will give and even flow. If you want to find out more there is a realy good write up OTH started over at ProM.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?p=174160#post174160

[allnatty06]

d00d, i completely threw him off there, that is m/b. I was completely not thinking about sust, i was thinking of prop, im an idiot, i appologize. I know what i'm talking about, jsut was in another world..... once again, i apologize, but sust does after all have i think 2 fast acting esters in it, and i think 2 long..

[rAJJIN]

Half Lives- Deca-durabolin aka Nandrolone decanoate
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Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2.
Also referred to as decanoic acid; capric acid; caprinic acid; decylic acid, Nonanecarboxylic acid. The Decanoate ester is most commonly used with the hormone nandrolone (as in Deca-Durabolin) and is found in virtually all corners of the world. Testosterone decanoate is also the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with Decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month, although most recently we are finding that levels seem to drop significantly after two weeks. To keep blood levels more uniform, athletes (as they have always known to do) will follow a weekly injection schedule.


On the Sust As Kaiser said thats a tricky one because of all the differant esters... It realy comes down to personal prefferance, I Just said eod or every third day as I found thats what worked the best for me.
Honestly I prefer Cyp or enanthate over the Sus Blend.

heres a Good link to check out on active half lives
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-steroid-half-life.asp

[ironworker184]

O.K. heres another question. from what I've gathered from your replies mixing the decca and sust. in the same syringe is evidently a no no. the reason I ask is because if I do decca every 3rd and sust. eod that would be more stabs than I'm already doing. sorry about the long paragraphs i'm new at this.

[rAJJIN]

You DONT need the deca every third day...ONLY once per week on it.
And You can mix them in the same pin if they happen to be taken on the same day.

[Kaiser]

d00d, i completely threw him off there, that is m/b. I was completely not thinking about sust, i was thinking of prop, im an idiot, i appologize. I know what i'm talking about, jsut was in another world..... once again, i apologize, but sust does after all have i think 2 fast acting esters in it, and i think 2 long..


You are definately not an idiot and you are a great contributor here. You are just new to the whole gear thing and that will take some time and experience to learn. No need to appoligize. You're doing good.

[ironworker184]

thanks for the advice guys....now on another note. I'm 28yrs.old just over 6ft. tall and weigh in at 228lbs. as of today. we've been discussing my current cycle heres what i just ordered for my next. D-bol 10mg. - trenabol 75mg.-sustanon 250mgs... i'm hoping the tren/sust. combo will help steer from estrogen side effects . oh ya , I also plan on nolvadex 20mg ed and no more than 4 weeks on the d-bol.
I hope this will be sufficient any advice is greatly appreciated.

[Alin]

I've been doing deca & sustanon every other day not exceeding 400mg. each per week . My question is if "pin" day falls on a weekend which i'm taking off to recoop do i still take scheduled dose or wait till next workout day ?


Take on scheduled day regardless.

[allnatty06]

gyno with tren and sust MAY stay at a minimum, but tren has one of the worst side affects of all IMO. Are you bulking? or cutting? and how many cycles have you had b4? i'd stick with test e and eq if you want a successful low side keep gains bulk cycle. Sust isn't good IMO b/c with all of the tests combined, it makes a very low dosage of each of the four, which in the long run isn't enough of one type of test in your body to make drastic changes that a fully dosed shot of test250 would do. I have taken tren b4 and the strength was a very noticable difference, but the sides weren't worth it, like i said, eq (not deca, deca makes you bloat and you won't keep as many gains), and test e (just my personal fav.). And throw in some nolva and get a good pct and you'll be surprised, but once again, we need some stats and experience, and after all, keep in mind it AAAAAAALLLLL comes down to your diet! Good Luck, and be safe!

[allnatty06]

i just realized it's a bulking cycle, considering the d-bol. So in that case, stick with the d-bol, if you start to feel nauseous during your cycle chances are it's going to be your d-bol, and you'll probably have to lower your dosage per day. If your new to d-bol it can really mess with you, make you throw up a lot, not ba able to hold food down, mess with your liver, and so forth, so once again, dbol is great for about 6 weeks, but if you start feeling sick, chances are you will have to lower your dosage. Also with dbol you will gain ALOT of water the first cpl weeks, always do, it will then be lost soon and muscle will develop so fastly you won't believe it, im a very firm believer in d-bol, if you know what you're doing with it.... IMO i'd start with 30mg dbol ed if it's your first time to use it.... I LOVE YOU KAISER!!! :rolleyes:

[ironworker184]

I've been working out for about 10 yrs. now and believe that i reached my natural peak or got impatient but who's judging.....about two years ago. My first cycles a couple of years ago I put on probably close to thirty lbs. and have done a pretty good job of maintaining close to 80% of those gains. The reason I was w/out gear for so long is my "buddy" fell through, and it wasn't until about 6 weeks ago that I found Alin and gathered the balls to finally try ordering off the internet. I have done extensive research but I also believe that you learn something every day. Thats why I appreciate any help I can get. Hang in there the paragraph is just about over... as for the Tren. since i've already got 2-10ml vials on the way along with enough sustanon to match i'll just drink a f***ing ton of water everyday and go with eq/test-e from now on for bulking. by the way what the hell does pct and imo mean? damn rookies!!!!!!!!!

[tatteredxangelx]

post cycle therapy and in my opinion :p

[allnatty06]

sorry we aren't that clear the first time round man:) IMO PCT.... :D