As many of you know...

[hooker]

I moderate and write for www.mindandmuscle.net (http://www.mindandmuscle.net), under my name- Anthony Roberts.

Well, apparently, there is a new nutrition guru there-

Lyle McDonald.

Here's a photo of him, in competition, deadlifting...what looks to be under 300lbs:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2005/irontamer6b.jpg


Somehow- I think I'll stick to writing out my own diets for now.

[bigpun81]

Lol Wtf

[Rat]

He looks a bit underfed....

[hooker]

Who, in their right minds, would listen to this guy on how to burn fat and gain muscle!!!??

[k1*]

:D ROFLMAO!!!! The dude's a beast??!!!! :D

[Cadillacman]

What a stud. He needs to lay off the juice for a while, he's getting WAY too engorged.

[tatteredxangelx]

Alin should have his own reality TV show ... this guy can be the first guest LMAO

[arnold jr]

Yeah, I've heard of this guy, he's supposed to be the keto diet guru. Some of his stuff sounds pretty good, but I've never seen a pic of him before...kind of makes you go hum :confused:

Arnold jr.

[bigpun81]

It kind of goes with the same principle of hiring of a personal trainer. You wouldn't hire a personal trainer who was fat or in worse shape than you would you?

[bmoore]

that guy is suppose to tell people how to lose weight, what an moron, he looks like he is straining on that little weight, what the hell ???

Brian

[hooker]

I just can't imagine listening to this guy...about anything...

[sammarbella]

Well, apparently, there is a new nutrition guru there-

Lyle McDonald.



ahahahahahhahaha

Fatty Leptin "guru" is the STRONGEST FACT (his "fit" body i mean) to know that his theories about leptin are a BIG (FATTY) BLUFF.

:D

[anaholic]

wow!
how can i get ahold of this guy, i want to pay him to train me!

[alan1973]

please tell me that was just a first lift for qualifying.

[Kaiser]

Never trust a bald barber. :D

[Testament]

yeah, we have to give him the benifit of the doubt. It's got to be his warm up lift :confused:

[Muscle_Lord00]

lol....hilarious!!! It's terrible not being able to see pics of the people writing the books and articles. Does make you go hmmm? Reminds me of the personal trainers at my gym with guts and the ones who weigh 130lbs soaking wet!!!

[hooker]

Llewellyn isn't much bigger. He's probably a buck eighty or something.

[Liftin_Grl]

Hmmmm that weight belt looks mighty tight. Looks like he is going to bust a nut. So whomever said it would be his first lift, I mean how much more could he dead? :rolleyes: LOL

[allnatty06]

OK, i know what it its, what we can't see are the ends of the bar. I'm assuming he has two small like children hanging off of the ends.... That is what the constipated look on his face is for, im sure of it..... I do this same style lift :rolleyes:

[sword-]

Looks like he's deadlifting 205 lbs.

[Bakes]

All that I have to say is WOW.....
Not to mention where they are "lifting" at!? WTF, it looks like someones living room in their house or something...lol

[Bakes]

I guess that I should add that his size (or lack there of) does not necessarily mean that his intelligence or knowledge of the sport is as lacking as his muscles are.lol But it certainly makes it VERY hard to take the advise of someone like him serious when (if in fact that they do know what they are talking about) they clearly have not applied it to themselves...

[sammarbella]

But it certainly makes it VERY hard to take the advise of someone like him serious when (if in fact that they do know what they are talking about) they clearly have not applied it to themselves...

THAT'S THE POINT!

Lyle thinks that he is a sort of leptin "guru" and keto diet to get ride of bodyfat.

That may works don't know, the fact is that HIS BODY SPEAK HIGHER THAN HIS MOUTH.( i mean his FAT).
:D

[Kaiser]

Being on the honest side even after cracking a joke about it, there are guys/girls out there that have done alot of studies, work with alot of people, etc. that do know what they are doing. Lets put it in perspective. To Coleman and Cutler, every trainer is smaller than they are. So what is it about these trainers that haven't "done" it themselves, yet do it for others? It's all relative I guess, but don't be so quick to judge a book by it's cover if you want to have an open mind in activities and in business. At that point it would be like me saying I would not take training from Hooker because he is smaller than I am. Some of these guys might have studied a long time or even had a test bed of BBers, their own personal habitrail to say, that gave them the knowledge to teach.

BTW, Think about the guys that design, engineer, and create AAS and esters of testosterone, my question to you is: What do you think they look like? At 120lbs 5'7" and multiple medical/chemical/biological degrees, would you trust him on dosages of the chemical he created or some big guy you don't know in the gym?

[allnatty06]

I only trust ppl who have experienced what they want to teach me IMO, not to fight with you Kaiser but i disagree.... I wouldn't learn how to skydive from a guy who has watched EVERY movie on it, but never done it..... I wouldn't learn to drive a car from someone who has been in a million cars, but never drove any...... I would only trust my body in others hands (no pun intended) that have experienced what i was about to go through..... and know the possibilites first hand. That's just me though..... i understand others are diff., but that is just me once again....

[Kaiser]

I only trust ppl who have experienced what they want to teach me IMO, not to fight with you Kaiser but i disagree.... I wouldn't learn how to skydive from a guy who has watched EVERY movie on it, but never done it..... I wouldn't learn to drive a car from someone who has been in a million cars, but never drove any...... I would only trust my body in others hands (no pun intended) that have experienced what i was about to go through..... and know the possibilites first hand. That's just me though..... i understand others are diff., but that is just me once again....

You're certainly entitled to your own opinion and train of thought brother.

[allnatty06]

and also IMO this guy doesn't even look CLOSE to being fit..... maybe if he were built a little bit, and had some what of a look to him that looked like he knew what he was talking about, then maybe, just maybe, i would listen to a guy like him... But in this case, he looks like every other guy in the gym who has no idea wtf he is doing. But clearly without a doubt he knows more than any of us (which is why he has the job he does). So i def. would take advice, but would never want him at my side "training" me.

[Kaiser]

But clearly without a doubt he knows more than any of us (which is why he has the job he does). So i def. would take advice, but would never want him at my side "training" me.

Well there you go. You're looking at it with an open mind now just one post later. Once you get past the portion where he is standing next to you and you're worried about what other people think of him training you, you might even do a full circle. Keep up the good work ;)

[OuchThatHurts]

I don't know if this is just me talking myself up but do you know how many trainers I've had? None. I just stuck my big snout in every article, book, and even thread I could find and just let common sense pull me through. There is no monopoly on wisdom. I remember one time I was talking with one of the guys I train with and I was telling him how I felt like I was impoving for months and then just stopped dead. I had gotten to a point and then tryed to continue increasing but it got to the point where a weight I had benched weeks before for 6 now I was doing 2 and an assisted rep. I remember saying "I don't know what the hell to do to get back on track" This is when some short little pudgy guy who I'd talked to maybe twice said "Why don't you try more weight?" In a kinda sarcastic way.

I was already upset at my workout and instead of smashing his spine to splinters, I thought about what he said. I HAD BEEN DOING ALMOST MY MAX WEIGHT FOR MONTHS!!! He was exactly right the little prick. So for a few months I started doing what I consider lighter weight sets of 10-12 reps and before long, I was back on the road to gains.

Point is, wisdom can come from the most unlikely places.

p.s. Watching that guy lift that weight (i think it was something vaguely resembling a deadlift) I didn't know whether he was tryng to fuck that bar or what! Very strange.

[Kaiser]

I don't know if this is just me talking myself up but do you know how many trainers I've had? None. I just stuck my big snout in every article, book, and even thread I could find and just let common sense pull me through. There is no monopoly on wisdom. I remember one time I was talking with one of the guys I train with and I was telling him how I felt like I was impoving for months and then just stopped dead. I had gotten to a point and then tryed to continue increasing but it got to the point where a weight I had benched weeks before for 6 now I was doing 2 and an assisted rep. I remember saying "I don't know what the hell to do to get back on track" This is when some short little pudgy guy who I'd talked to maybe twice said "Why don't you try more weight?" In a kinda sarcastic way.

I was already upset at my workout and instead of smashing his spine to splinters, I thought about what he said. I HAD BEEN DOING ALMOST MY MAX WEIGHT FOR MONTHS!!! He was exactly right the little prick. So for a few months I started doing what I consider lighter weight sets of 10-12 reps and before long, I was back on the road to gains.

Point is, wisdom can come from the most unlikely places.

p.s. Watching that guy lift that weight (i think it was something vaguely resembling a deadlift) I didn't know whether he was tryng to fuck that bar or what! Very strange.

Agreed 100% man. I know I haven't been trained by anyone since I first got into the sport and had some of the fellas teach me what the fug a weight even was...lol... Those days are long gone, but recently, I have changed my path from power lifting to sculpting my body to where I want it to look aesthetically good. For that I'm now under Phil Hernon's direction. Even if Phil wasn't an IFBB Pro, even if he didn't beat Titus, I would still go to him. I wouldn't care if he was actually 150lbs. Doesn't matter to me. What matters is that the guy is smart, knows the human body, knows how to "even out" body parts, looks at things with an open mind and can DIAGNOSE (keyword) your aesthetic shortcomings and come up with a solution. Now he's thrown exercises at me that for the first time in about 10 years I didn't even know existed to help compensate for my weak areas. We'll see how it turns out.

[OuchThatHurts]

Agreed 100% man. I know I haven't been trained by anyone since I first got into the sport and had some of the fellas teach me what the fug a weight even was...lol... Those days are long gone, but recently, I have changed my path from power lifting to sculpting my body to where I want it to look aesthetically good. For that I'm now under Phil Hernon's direction. Even if Phil wasn't an IFBB Pro, even if he didn't beat Titus, I would still go to him. I wouldn't care if he was actually 150lbs. Doesn't matter to me. What matters is that the guy is smart, knows the human body, knows how to "even out" body parts, looks at things with an open mind and can DIAGNOSE (keyword) your aesthetic shortcomings and come up with a solution. Now he's thrown exercises at me that for the first time in about 10 years I didn't even know existed to help compensate for my weak areas. We'll see how it turns out.
Another thing about Phil. Phil has a very high moral and ethical standard. How can a true man not respect that? Phil has seen the dark side of the biz and walked away with the knowledge AND the wisdom of what to do and what NOT to do.

I just can't see how someone can not respect the man. And he will be the first to tell you when he has something he needs to learn. I may use his service next year.

At first, people sometimes have a problem with Phil. He has no problem bringing even the biggest ego right down to planet earth. But more often than not, people eventually end up appreciating his help, in fact paying for it.

[arnold jr]

Llewellyn isn't much bigger. He's probably a buck eighty or something.
No he's not much bigger, but don't let that fool you because Llewellyn knows his shit. He hasn't used AAS in a long time and he hasn't used that much in the past but his background has given him the ability to understand and advise on the subject extremly well. So he doesn't have much first hand knowledge from personal use, but his understanding of how various chemicals affect the human body is right on point.

I also found something else out about Lyle McDonald, he does not claim to be any kind of BB or PW but he is a speed skater and is in training for the next winter olyimpics.

Arnold jr.

[sammarbella]

I also found something else out about Lyle McDonald, he does not claim to be any kind of BB or PW but he is a speed skater and is in training for the next winter olyimpics.

Arnold jr.

Give us some pics please!

I could be funny to see him training on a skate.

Winter olympics?

If he will be there, there is a chance to win for my grandad. :D

[Kaiser]

No he's not much bigger, but don't let that fool you because Llewellyn knows his shit. He hasn't used AAS in a long time and he hasn't used that much in the past but his background has given him the ability to understand and advise on the subject extremly well. So he doesn't have much first hand knowledge from personal use, but his understanding of how various chemicals affect the human body is right on point.

Yes he is good, and he does know what he is talking about. I think all of the "Anabolics" books he has written have alot of comprehensive worthwhile information.

[Kaiser]

Another thing about Phil. Phil has a very high moral and ethical standard. How can a true man not respect that? Phil has seen the dark side of the biz and walked away with the knowledge AND the wisdom of what to do and what NOT to do.

I just can't see how someone can not respect the man. And he will be the first to tell you when he has something he needs to learn. I may use his service next year.

At first, people sometimes have a problem with Phil. He has no problem bringing even the biggest ego right down to planet earth. But more often than not, people eventually end up appreciating his help, in fact paying for it.

Hehe, yeah man... You trying to tell me something? :D

[Beetlejuice]

LOL he might be smart but he still looks like he is about to bust a hemerroid deadlifting what appears to be 150 lbs. I see the humor in what hooker is trying to say. It is like getting a tattoo. Who on this forum would like a tattoo from someone who doesnt have one? Who wants diet advice from a guy who apparently needs some himself? Personally if some tooth pick came up to me and started to tell me how to bulk up I would be like "Do it yourself and show me how it works." Same for a some pile of blubber trying to tell me how to lose fat. Sorry guys but I don't buy it. If your way is so great how come you don't use it? If it is motivation, and you cant motivate your own fat ass how are you going to motivate mine? I don't want advice from a mental weakling either.

[OuchThatHurts]

Hehe, yeah man... You trying to tell me something? :D
oh shoot... i had forgotten all about the history there... I was just making a general statement haha. That whole thing didn't even have to do with BBing. I'll be the first to admit that when I first came over to that board I was like WTF??? Who IS this guy?!? Now I don't feel that way at all. So maybe the big ego that got dropped was my own (if that were possible) lol

Now when I see someone (this happened just recently) telling Phil how to train someone... I call them on it.

[hooker]

No he's not much bigger, but don't let that fool you because Llewellyn knows his shit. He hasn't used AAS in a long time and he hasn't used that much in the past but his background has given him the ability to understand and advise on the subject extremly well. So he doesn't have much first hand knowledge from personal use, but his understanding of how various chemicals affect the human body is right on point.

I also found something else out about Lyle McDonald, he does not claim to be any kind of BB or PW but he is a speed skater and is in training for the next winter olyimpics.

Arnold jr.
And as far as I know he's not a very good speed skater either.

[Princess L]

And as far as I know he's not a very good speed skater either.

Can you tell us where you got that information?

[tatteredxangelx]

i agree with everyone that the dude is a small fry and has no business competing...but nobody know's who the fuck this guy deadlifting is, so why come to Alinboard and knock him? Keep your beef to yourself ... especially when the guy isnt here to defend himself. my 2 cents

[allnatty06]

mmhhmm... mods have been pmed, nice edit btw tattered

[tatteredxangelx]

hooker is a mod dildo.

[allnatty06]

i think the guy has a nice build, and i think hooker has a nice build as well

[tatteredxangelx]

you say im kissing mod ass and brown nosing, when i blatanly just went against a mod .. than you call me captain obvious? Yes I am young, im 19 .. but wisdom doesnt necessarily come with age ... when i am wrong, i am wrong .. i admit it .. but i am not immature enuf to care enough about my post count to post 80 useless messages, 20 hurtful ones, 10 questions and about 4 reasonable posts ... and I ready every post here ... the ones I cnat help on I keep my mouth shut ... the ones I can, I help, the ones that strike me as ignorant, and useless I post against ... like 95% of yours, and the one hooker posted with the small guy deadlifting ... I am not singlying you out, I am just singleing out the assanine posts ... just so happen 90 percent of them are from you "D0od" ...

PS Judging from the picture you posted, you aren't much older than I am ...

[11rdc11]

This is the way I see. My strength coach in high school was not anything to look at but he did have vast knowledge in what he was preaching. Did you ever see the trainers that boxers work with? They don't look like they know what they are talking about but have turned out some of the greatest champions.

[Kaiser]

In the beginning, yes Tattered was a little rough around the edges. But we talked to him and since then has become a valuable member. I only hope you take the same road at this point Natty. His posts are straight up and to the point with care for people's safety as being number one priority. At this point I do not see anything wrong with his posts so please stop PMing me about them.

[Beetlejuice]

What a messed up thread.

[Kaiser]

What a messed up thread.

Agreed, it was messed up from the first post in my opinion and tact should have been excercized.

[hooker]

I posted a thread about someone who I feel has no buisness telling anyone anything about diet, training, nutrition, or- really anything at all related to athletics.

I happen to work for MindAndMuscle, and wouldn't want my name associated in anyway with that dickhole Lyle. Recently, Mind and Muscle staff have been posting threads around the internet saying that the latest issue of the e-zine features me and Lyle, and they have me listed as associate science editor in my Authors profile.

I want to make it clear that I don't think this particular author ought to be in the magazine, and that my position as associate science editor did not allow me any levity in making sure he never was associated with me.

Hence, I stated it here, in my typical fashion.

The staff from MindAndMuscle was putting his name and mine in the title of alot of threads around the various anabolic forums around the 'net. I don't want any of my credibility associated with him. Clearly, by putting his and my name together, it was an attempt to do this, since they posted all of this in various Anabolic Forums, and not in diet forums.

Also, randomly flaming someone- even me- isn't acceptable, even if I'm not around for a few days. It's not something I do, nor condone.

Tattered needs a 1 week break, I think.

[Kaiser]

I posted a thread about someone who I feel has no buisness telling anyone anything about diet, training, nutrition, or- really anything at all related to athletics.

I happen to work for MindAndMuscle, and wouldn't want my name associated in anyway with that dickhole Lyle. Recently, Mind and Muscle staff have been posting threads around the internet saying that the latest issue of the e-zine features me and Lyle, and they have me listed as associate science editor in my Authors profile.

I want to make it clear that I don't think this particular author ought to be in the magazine, and that my position as associate science editor did not allow me any levity in making sure he never was associated with me.

Hence, I stated it here, in my typical fashion.

The staff from MindAndMuscle was putting his name and mine in the title of alot of threads around the various anabolic forums around the 'net. I don't want any of my credibility associated with him. Clearly, by putting his and my name together, it was an attempt to do this, since they posted all of this in various Anabolic Forums, and not in diet forums.

Also, randomly flaming someone- even me- isn't acceptable, even if I'm not around for a few days. It's not something I do, nor condone.

Tattered needs a 1 week break, I think.

Not that it matters, but I agree to some of what you said, but not all. If the guy is not good at what he does, back it up with him failing to have knowledge of the sport. Not a pic of him trying to lift weight. Show where he stated something that wasn't true. And of course people would have to take in to consideration that people make mistakes every once in a while. Even professionals. I don't personally know, nor have I read anything from him, but Llewellyn I have. His books are good in my opinion. Also in my opinion you lose credibility to some because of the comments made. Almost like you are reaching for something. In my field (and this is work I am talking about this time so we don't get mixed up like you did in one of my previous posts) I know who is good and who isn't. The cream rises to the top. I've handled situations modestly and found no need to put down the competition unless they drew first blood. This is not a slam Hook at all, it's just you're in a business world now with a publication that needs to have some merit. Don't destroy it with petty comments that have nothing to do with a person's ability to teach or house knowledge.

Tattered is your decision and I'll stand behind any mod here because we are a team, but this wasn't the first part of this little battle between Tattered and Natty. That, and he didn't call you a dildo, but I know that slamming another member is against the rules so again, I stand by your decision.

[hooker]

Not that it matters, but I agree to some of what you said, but not all. If the guy is not good at what he does, back it up with him failing to have knowledge of the sport. Not a pic of him trying to lift weight. Show where he stated something that wasn't true. And of course people would have to take in to consideration that people make mistakes every once in a while. Even professionals. I don't personally know, nor have I read anything from him, but Llewellyn I have. His books are good in my opinion. Also in my opinion you lose credibility to some because of the comments made. Almost like you are reaching for something. In my field (and this is work I am talking about this time so we don't get mixed up like you did in one of my previous posts) I know who is good and who isn't. The cream rises to the top. I've handled situations modestly and found no need to put down the competition unless they drew first blood. This is not a slam Hook at all, it's just you're in a business world now with a publication that needs to have some merit. Don't destroy it with petty comments that have nothing to do with a person's ability to teach or house knowledge.

Tattered is your decision and I'll stand behind any mod here because we are a team, but this wasn't the first part of this little battle between Tattered and Natty. That, and he didn't call you a dildo, but I know that slamming another member is against the rules so again, I stand by your decision.
Regarding Lyle, I can't find a shred of evidence for his being good at what he does. His condition is garbage, his strength is garbage, his athletic "accomplishments" are below average, and I've never seen anything more from his clients/followers than I have from him. He produces no imnpressive results in either himself or anyone else. Ergo he blows.

I don't understand this part....it seemed pretty obvious that he was doing just that...he even said my name..


Regarding Bill, that cunt implied that he was going to sue me, when my book came out. He's a fuckwit. He went around badmouthing me behind the scenes until I told him that I found out and that I didn't appreciate it. He said "any publicity is good publicity" and I told him we'd have to (and will) discuss that in person...

Keep in mind, that this is my industry, and you're kind of on the outside looking in, and while it looks unprofessional, it's how I am, and how I've always been- I tell the truth and don't hide my feelings, ever. So until now, it's been working...:) as I think people are sick of "gurus" who don't look like they've ever been under a bar.


These gys talk about how much they know, and you know what? In the end, none of that shit produces anything- the stuff in their minds isn't going to produce a bigger, stronger, faster athlete- or it would have by now. The only time I've ever seen a tiny little guy like Lyle or Bill move a heavy weight with his mind was a dude named "Yoda"...

[Kaiser]

Regarding Lyle, I can't find a shred of evidence for his being good at what he does. His condition is garbage, his strength is garbage, his athletic "accomplishments" are below average, and I've never seen anything more from his clients/followers than I have from him. He produces no imnpressive results in either himself or anyone else. Ergo he blows.

I don't understand this part....it seemed pretty obvious that he was doing just that...he even said my name..


Regarding Bill, that cunt implied that he was going to sue me, when my book came out. He's a fuckwit. He went around badmouthing me behind the scenes until I told him that I found out and that I didn't appreciate it. He said "any publicity is good publicity" and I told him we'd have to (and will) discuss that in person...

Keep in mind, that this is my industry, and you're kind of on the outside looking in, and while it looks unprofessional, it's how I am, and how I've always been- I tell the truth and don't hide my feelings, ever. So until now, it's been working...:) as I think people are sick of "gurus" who don't look like they've ever been under a bar.


These gys talk about how much they know, and you know what? In the end, none of that shit produces anything- the stuff in their minds isn't going to produce a bigger, stronger, faster athlete- or it would have by now. The only time I've ever seen a tiny little guy like Lyle or Bill move a heavy weight with his mind was a dude named "Yoda"...

OK, I agree 100% about me not knowing the inners of your business. Absolutely true. But what you just said about him made more sense to me than your ealier posts about the guy. He attacked you saying that he was going to sue you. Now that holds more water to me. A candid statement like that will allow you to get more legit press at other expense. Either way bro, I do want to read your book and check out some of the good stuff you have in there. All in all, hope it works out well for ya, and don't worry about those clowns threatening you about lawsuits. Take it and use it as a compliment because if they didn't think your book was competition for them they'd never make the comment.

Tattered was talking to Allnatty06 which I just banned permanently becuase he PMed me telling me to go fuck myself. He was saying it like "Hooker is a mod, you dildo". I didn't want to bring this out in the open, but Allnatty has left me no choice. He (Allnatty) also homosexually propositioned me in a PM which I forwarded to rAJJIN.

[hooker]

Ok...I guess that all didn't make sense, since all of the posts were edited except "hooker is a mod dildo"....which means TAX ought to be unsuspended...I couldn't really follow the entire thing, and since there were no insults to me (all edited out) it just didn't make sense that TAX was randomly calling me a dildo, but I since I get attacked day in and day out by recreational steroid gurus, it wouldn't have been out of the ordinary for that to happen.

My mistake...with all the editing and just leaving that one post, it just read like a random attack on me. I'll unsuspend TAX, since I wrongly suspended him in the first place (again- due to the fact that there was such heavy editing in the thread, by the members, but they left the "hooker/dildo" comment).

As for Billy, he actually had his wife call- he didn't do it himself. So I need to amend that part....

[Kaiser]

Ok...I guess that all didn't make sense, since all of the posts were edited except "hooker is a mod dildo"....which means TAX ought to be unsuspended...I couldn't really follow the entire thing, and since there were no insults to me (all edited out) it just didn't make sense that TAX was randomly calling me a dildo, but I since I get attacked day in and day out by recreational steroid gurus, it wouldn't have been out of the ordinary for that to happen.

My mistake...with all the editing and just leaving that one post, it just read like a random attack on me. I'll unsuspend TAX, since I wrongly suspended him in the first place (again- due to the fact that there was such heavy editing in the thread, by the members, but they left the "hooker/dildo" comment).

As for Billy, he actually had his wife call- he didn't do it himself. So I need to amend that part....

Had his wife call... lol... sort of like "I'm tellin mommy"... Now that's funny. Well, he must think you're serious competition for him then. Take it as a compliment.

Yeah, I do see how it gets misunderstood what he wrote. Tattered, I gotta get you the "Hooked on Phonics" CD. ;)

You want to hear a funny one, Allnatty posted a pic of himself last week and asked for others. So Static and I posted ours. I then got propositioned from Allnatty to "get together" lol... :p So Static and I removed our posts in that thread because we noticed how he was posing and didn't want to be part of a gay bashing thread. I'm straight, but homosexuality doesn't bother me as long as it doesn't invole me, I have just seen to many threads get out of line in this case. He came back and asked why we did we remove our posts. We told him someone was watching and we didn't want to get recognized...lol... He changed his whole thread around to people's dogs...lol... Boy needs some help... :D :p

[opusx]

There is nothing wrong with being gay.. except the taking it in the ass part

[Kaiser]

There is nothing wrong with being gay.. except the taking it in the ass part

Hehe, I'm a business man so I play the odds so I wish more guys were gay that would mean more women for me!

[sTaTic]

Well, sir.... I dont like em. never will and dont plan to for the future. Am I homophobic? Sure, whatever get me away from some other dudes penis. I dont even understand why women like us men. lol

[Tyrone]

Had his wife call... lol... sort of like "I'm tellin mommy"... Now that's funny. Well, he must think you're serious competition for him then. Take it as a compliment.

Yeah, I do see how it gets misunderstood what he wrote. Tattered, I gotta get you the "Hooked on Phonics" CD. ;)

You want to hear a funny one, Allnatty posted a pic of himself last week and asked for others. So Static and I posted ours. I then got propositioned from Allnatty to "get together" lol... :p So Static and I removed our posts in that thread because we noticed how he was posing and didn't want to be part of a gay bashing thread. I'm straight, but homosexuality doesn't bother me as long as it doesn't invole me, I have just seen to many threads get out of line in this case. He came back and asked why we did we remove our posts. We told him someone was watching and we didn't want to get recognized...lol... He changed his whole thread around to people's dogs...lol... Boy needs some help... :D :p
I thought something weird was going on there with the posts in another thread and that situation. Plus you could tell something was wrong with Allnatty in the first place. Guy acted like the biggest tool ever posting everywhere and just making a whole bunch of crap threads.

[tatteredxangelx]

woah hooker ... i wasnt calling you a dildo, i was calling allnatty one ... im sry for you taking it the wrong way ! i should have put a comma ... i was claling him a dildo b/c he said i was sucking up to mods, when i just went a posted i didnt agree with you ... i am very sorry for the misunderstanding!

[tatteredxangelx]

AHAHHAHAHA about the homosexual part ... i was wonderign what happened ... and thx for helping me out kaisar, its appreciated!

[tatteredxangelx]

i figured it out when he had 20 whole pages about his penis length and anal shit.

[Kaiser]

i figured it out when he had 20 whole pages about his penis length and anal shit.

LMFAO.... :D :p

[Kaiser]

and thx for helping me out kaisar, its appreciated!

You got it man. No problem, you've been a good person in this forum lately. You seem like you've learned alot over the past couple of months. Pretty mature now for 19 if you ask me.

[hooker]

Had his wife call... lol... sort of like "I'm tellin mommy"... Now that's funny. Well, he must think you're serious competition for him then. Take it as a compliment.

Yeah, it's kind of funny in retrospect...just bizarre for a grown man to do shit like that...

[rAJJIN]

This thread ROX :D :rolleyes:

Im just glad that annoying Kid Allnatty is gone.

Hooker is deffinatley not one to sugar coat things ;) Thats a big part of what I like about him...he tells it how he sees it.
Kaiser and I seem to agree and have the same opinions on a lot of things as well. Both Great mods and glad to have them as friends and partners here.

[OuchThatHurts]

I knew there was something weird about that guy from the moment he gave me that blowjob...

nothin' get's by me

[Kaiser]

I knew there was something weird about that guy from the moment he gave me that blowjob...

nothin' get's by me

:D :D :D

You friggin' kill me....

[rAJJIN]

I knew there was something weird about that guy from the moment he gave me that blowjob...

nothin' get's by me


hahah, An old firend a mine that once did a little time
told me that your only queer if your the one Giving the dick suckin :eek:
so I guess your ok By his rules Ouch :D

[OuchThatHurts]

HAHAHA I'm totally joking

I'd rather go down on Condoleeza Rice...


...with a yeast infection...




.... in August

[Kaiser]

Ouch hands down comes up with the funniest shit I have ever heard on the boards or email for that matter. Sick, deranged, & demented frontal lobe mixed in with the brilliance of the other lobes I guess, I don't fuggin' know. :p

[Kaiser]

As you said Raj, this thread rox... Funny shit...

[OuchThatHurts]

:D :D :D

[tatteredxangelx]

better stop with the gay jokes, some1s going to give static a panic attack! :D :D

[hooker]

Yeah, it's kind of funny in retrospect...just bizarre for a grown man to do shit like that...
Unfortunately, that cockbag "Lyle Mcdonald" is on my nuts all the time now too, and trolling me everywhere I go. Sooo....when I next see him deadlifting 200lbs, I'll have to have a word with 'em.

[hooker]

You want to hear a funny one, Allnatty posted a pic of himself last week and asked for others. So Static and I posted ours. I then got propositioned from Allnatty to "get together" lol... :p So Static and I removed our posts in that thread because we noticed how he was posing and didn't want to be part of a gay bashing thread. I'm straight, but homosexuality doesn't bother me as long as it doesn't invole me, I have just seen to many threads get out of line in this case. He came back and asked why we did we remove our posts. We told him someone was watching and we didn't want to get recognized...lol... He changed his whole thread around to people's dogs...lol... Boy needs some help... :D :p
So how was the get together?

[Kaiser]

So how was the get together?

I don't know, ask Ouch, he went instead of me.... :D :p

[OuchThatHurts]

I don't know, ask Ouch, he went instead of me.... :D :p
You whore! I'm getting you back for that one...LOL... sitting here having my morning coffee and all of a sudden I'm wrapped up in some gay affair?

On a serious note to the mods... Just to satisfy my curiosity, I viewed many of the threads that a recently banned member had posted in. I wanted to mention a theme I noticed. There are few gentlemen on here with little or NO experience giving out advice on compounds and injections that could be very hazardous to someone's health if actually carried out. Very serious compounds. If someone should get sick or ill from following one of these boneheads advice, and should they decide to plead "well I was only doing what XYZ told me to do!" it could get ugly. Not trying to get anyone's panties in a bunch but the thought did occur to me while reading some of those... This may already be at your attention since I did see a few posts by mods that more or less told members "Don't give advice when you don't know what you're talking about." Could be worth a brief huddle?

Oh and Kaiser, not with me! Although I know you've been dying to! :)

[hooker]

Huddle up guys....bring it in close...tighter....ok...

"Don't give out advice if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about"

Ok....AlinBoard on three....Break...!

[sTaTic]

better stop with the gay jokes, some1s going to give static a panic attack! :D :D


Lmao!!! Faggs!!! :eek:

[rAJJIN]

Huddle up guys....bring it in close...tighter....ok...

"Don't give out advice if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about"

Ok....AlinBoard on three....Break...!



Hahaha! You guys are killing me :p

[kaelalden]

Now, don't take off that Rolex watch. You don't want everyone to think you're not a professional. ;)

[OuchThatHurts]

I wear a rolex to PROVE I'm not a professional... how'd you know that anyway?

[Kaiser]

Breitling Bentley 44mm for me...

[OuchThatHurts]

Submariner, two-tone, oyster lock... (should have gone all stainless) - the gold makes me look like a friggin' pimp.

[Kaiser]

Submariner, two-tone, oyster lock... (should have gone all stainless) - the gold makes me look like a friggin' pimp.

Submariner was definitely my first choice until I saw how small it looked on my wrist. Love that watch though, and yeah my first pick was the stainless with the platinum face. But it looked like I had Jackie's watch on. I went with the Bentley and actually the smaller of the 2 Bentleys, the larger being 48mm. It just fit "me" a little better. I think the sub is 39mm or 36mm right?

[opusx]

You whore! I'm getting you back for that one...LOL... sitting here having my morning coffee and all of a sudden I'm wrapped up in some gay affair?

On a serious note to the mods... Just to satisfy my curiosity, I viewed many of the threads that a recently banned member had posted in. I wanted to mention a theme I noticed. There are few gentlemen on here with little or NO experience giving out advice on compounds and injections that could be very hazardous to someone's health if actually carried out. Very serious compounds. If someone should get sick or ill from following one of these boneheads advice, and should they decide to plead "well I was only doing what XYZ told me to do!" it could get ugly. Not trying to get anyone's panties in a bunch but the thought did occur to me while reading some of those... This may already be at your attention since I did see a few posts by mods that more or less told members "Don't give advice when you don't know what you're talking about." Could be worth a brief huddle?

Oh and Kaiser, not with me! Although I know you've been dying to! :)

There really are some serious dumbasses here that give out too much advice.

[opusx]

There really are some serious dumbasses here that give out too much advice.


Submariner was definitely my first choice until I saw how small it looked on my wrist. Love that watch though, and yeah my first pick was the stainless with the platinum face. But it looked like I had Jackie's watch on. I went with the Bentley and actually the smaller of the 2 Bentleys, the larger being 48mm. It just fit "me" a little better. I think the sub is 39mm or 36mm right?
expensive watches make natty hard :D

[Kaiser]

expensive watches make natty hard :D

He's attracted to Rolex guys more :D

[tatteredxangelx]

nice watches are for guys with small muscles :D

[OuchThatHurts]

TAX, you would not believe the amount of attractive females that have said "That is a beautiful watch!"

(I think some girls almost look for a Rolex or an Omega)

small muscles huh?
I want to see a photo of you. Get your little cam out, take a photo and post it up here. I hear a lot of talk. Let's see them guns, boy!
No more excuses, big boy.

I want to see these big lifts or are you trying to get past that 185 plateau like someone else I know?

[tatteredxangelx]

yer right man, i am trying to get past that 185 platuea ...




on the curl bar :D

gimme 2 weeks n ill post a picture ... ive been on the dollar menu diet for a little bit now ... i just upped the dosage to 1000mg test a week, n 100mg of tren ed pre comp ... so ill post some pictures when im lookin decent ... by the way, i have no arms ... but your gunna see some massvie dorian wheels on me :p

[OuchThatHurts]

To hell with two weeks... I may be dead in two weeks...

get a photo up! Let's see this 19-yr-old monster.

[Kaiser]

i just upped the dosage to 1000mg test a week, n 100mg of tren ed pre comp ...

Yes, and you're on your road to health problems at 19 years old.

[tatteredxangelx]

though you may be right kai, it is the only way i will grow precontest ...

my receptors were oversatuarated from running 2g a week, so when i took it down i wasnt growing ... barely maintaining ... im only hittin this much for 4 weeks to peak for the comp, than i am dropping to 500 for 2 and than coming off with the prop backload ouch posted about ... off for awhile so my receptors get back to normal

[Kaiser]

though you may be right kai, it is the only way i will grow precontest ...

my receptors were oversatuarated from running 2g a week, so when i took it down i wasnt growing ... barely maintaining ... im only hittin this much for 4 weeks to peak for the comp, than i am dropping to 500 for 2 and than coming off with the prop backload ouch posted about ... off for awhile so my receptors get back to normal


Did you ever think that maybe your body isn't ready for what you want it to be yet? I mean comon bro, do you know how much Test I have done per week? 500mg. and I worked that 500mg to death. I'm 35, your 19. You were taking 2000mg a week? At this point, I hope you weren't planning on growing taller, because your bones are fused. You are tearing yourself apart with those dosages at your age. Tren? shit, you already hit the big dog. Now where do you go from here? More tren? IGF? HGH? All for what at 19? You're self destructive right now and have no idea how to control it. I understand, and I feel bad for you believe it or not. So what are they giving out as a prize a this event? A trophy? how about if you PM me, and I'll send you a trophy. Shit they only cost about $30. What else are you going to get out of it? You've fucked your test levels up so much at an age of 19, you might find yourself eating Proviron with your Wheaties by the time you're 25 just to have sex once a month, let alone really satisfy a woman. Sheesh, then lets consider getting her pregnant to have your child... there's a whole other side you get to deal with later on when you're dick and ballz look like a walnut and a volume knob. I hope someday soon my words and the words of responsible others around here kick in before it's too late.

Now, I'm off to the gym to work off this 500mg of TestE & 300mg of TrenE a week.

[Kaiser]

Oh, and my suggestion at this point: Take a year off gear before all of what I said becomes a reality. And yes it will take a full year for what damage you have done.

[tatteredxangelx]

like I said in another post , i fucked up ... i jumped in 6 months ago, with a cocky ass, one track mind attitude, and ran too much ... but when I set my sites on soemthing I get it ... I am going to win, (n i dunt want the trophy, i want to win) ... I do plan on coming off, for a while ... and going to the doctor to make sure my test has been back to normal for atleast 2 months before i get back on ... i appreciate yer help n concern, i really do ... but if you knew what i was doign now (the way i am coming off this poor cycle i planned), with regards to still competting at the top of my game, you would realize it really is the best way ...

*and i made sure my growth plates were fused before I went on again (i grew taller after my cycle when i was 17)

[sTaTic]

I want to see these big lifts or are you trying to get past that 185 plateau like someone else I know?


LMFAO!!!! You're killin me bro. Maybe I shouldn't be saying bro on the boards either

[hooker]

TAX, you would not believe the amount of attractive females that have said "That is a beautiful watch!"

(I think some girls almost look for a Rolex or an Omega)

small muscles huh?
I want to see a photo of you. Get your little cam out, take a photo and post it up here. I hear a lot of talk. Let's see them guns, boy!
No more excuses, big boy.

I want to see these big lifts or are you trying to get past that 185 plateau like someone else I know?Maybe I don't ever get laid because I have a Tag? I think that's going to be my new excuse- and I'm sticking by it.

[sTaTic]

I have a TAG HEUER and I always get laid. :D

[Kaiser]

I always get laid, just now I'd like to try it with a partner :D

[OuchThatHurts]

See, a Tag is a fine watch... but it's more like a tweaked up Mustang. You'll score big in your local trailer parks and projects. You'll be pullin' tail left and right! But the Rolex and Omega effect is like when a girl see's you in a Ferrari or Porche. It will still atrract those same girls too but you will also get a more sophisticated kind of woman. You know the kind. The kind of woman that's funny and intelligent, comes from a good family, and thinks "This ***hole will buy me all the shi* I want plus when I'm done with his ass, I can take half his shi*!!!"

I think we ALL know that type! I know I do.

[sTaTic]

I roll a hummer... no mustang here :D and anyway, I dont even wear a watch when having sex :D

[OuchThatHurts]

I wear a watch always. Especially so she can never say I lasted less than four minutes. Then I say no way! ALmost four minutes and 20 seconds!

I have a bunch of vehicles. Nothing as nice as a Hummer though. I'm on my fourth Jeep Laredo, my second Accord, and I just to cheese off the snobby neighbors, I have an old chevy van that I call "old blue". Still great for nights on on the lake or anywhere for that matter. Not that it ever leaves the driveway. LOL.

[OuchThatHurts]

Static, I KNOW you got that "185 plateau" remark.... I wasn't sure if anyone would catch that.

[sTaTic]

:D lmao

[Kaiser]

See, a Tag is a fine watch... but it's more like a tweaked up Mustang. You'll score big in your local trailer parks and projects. You'll be pullin' tail left and right! But the Rolex and Omega effect is like when a girl see's you in a Ferrari or Porche. It will still atrract those same girls too but you will also get a more sophisticated kind of woman. You know the kind. The kind of woman that's funny and intelligent, comes from a good family, and thinks "This ***hole will buy me all the shi* I want plus when I'm done with his ass, I can take half his shi*!!!"

I think we ALL know that type! I know I do.


Yeah but you keep forgettin to mention the Breitling... I don't really hold an Omega that high in the ranks.

[Kaiser]

Static, I KNOW you got that "185 plateau" remark.... I wasn't sure if anyone would catch that.

I missed it. Glad to see you're back though. I was going to send big Jackie up your way to beat your ass if you didn't get back on here... :D

[daddyroohoo]

lol@guys who need a watch to get laid by decent women, but hey, whatever works for you guys... more power to ya:) :cool:

[sTaTic]

lol@guys who need a watch to get laid by decent women, but hey, whatever works for you guys... more power to ya:) :cool:


so what do you use to get your men? :eek:

[Kaiser]

so what do you use to get your men? :eek:

LMAO, Here we go again... :D :D :D

[OuchThatHurts]

Actually, I do keep forgetting. Breitlings are little works of art too. Inside and out. Still wish I would have got the all-stainless but the two-tone with the copper dial really does look sharp. At a meeting or at the pool.

Who am I kidding? What could possibly make me look any better?

[Kaiser]

I roll a hummer... :D

Me too, lifted.

[sTaTic]

Lmao... look where this thread went to. This shit killz me :D

[Kaiser]

Lmao... look where this thread went to. This shit killz me :D

Hehe, I love it too... pretty funny... In the end, we're so retarded it has nothing to do with what Hook posted in the beginning... :D

[OuchThatHurts]

lol@guys who need a watch to get laid by decent women, but hey, whatever works for you guys... more power to ya:) :cool:
HEY! It's allnutty Jr! Glad you're back!

[Kaiser]

BTW, Static (here's another one to throw the thread off to a different meaning...) Do you create all of that artwork you have in your posts yourself? Do you do that for a living? Serious question because I could probably use a guy for internet artwork.

[sTaTic]

look where I was today:D

[OuchThatHurts]

Actually kais, I posed for that avatar!

[Kaiser]

look where I was today:D


Nice man. Was that a car show or a dealer?

[sTaTic]

BTW, Static (here's another one to throw the thread off to a different meaning...) Do you create all of that artwork you have in your posts yourself? Do you do that for a living? Serious question because I could probably use a guy for internet artwork.


Yeah, I do all of the work you see. I'm the CFO at a payroll/management company. But I do freelance work for the web. Graphics, webdesign, logos... etc. I'll pm you with my site.

[Kaiser]

Yeah, I do all of the work you see. I'm the CFO at a payroll/management company. But I do freelance work for the web. Graphics, webdesign, logos... etc. I'll pm you with my site.

Good lookin out. My, um customers probably wouldn't be interested in T & A though...lol... but Yeah man, I would probably use you. You should contact the guys at Synthetek. God knows that site needs major work...

[sTaTic]

Nice man. Was that a car show or a dealer?


dealer. I had to take my truck in for service and went over to the lambo showcase to bust the guys balls over there. Man, I'd love to sit on my ass and wait for guys to come buy one of those off me. The orange one is my favorite. It runs about $209,000.00. I'll have it. Give me a few years :D

[Kaiser]

Actually kais, I posed for that avatar!

Swollen! :D :D

[Kaiser]

dealer. I had to take my truck in for service and went over to the lambo showcase to bust the guys balls over there. Man, I'd love to sit on my ass and wait for guys to come buy one of those off me. The orange one is my favorite. It runs about $209,000.00. I'll have it. Give me a few years :D

I'm going for the Bentley Continental GT maybe at the end of the year cause the wife and I are trying and may need a four seater if you know what I mean. Trading in the Benz (or selling it outright).

[wideguy]

My mom can deadlift that much weight.

I'm not kidding.

[sTaTic]

Nice. I didnt stop in the Bentley showcase. It was right next to the Lambos. I was going to but I spent too much time drewling on the orange one.

[sTaTic]

My mom can deadlift that much weight.

I'm not kidding.


Oh shit, we're back on topic ;)

[Kaiser]

Nice. I didnt stop in the Bentley showcase. It was right next to the Lambos. I was going to but I spent too much time drewling on the orange one.


If I'm not mistaken, I think BigA has one, but I'm not sure what color or if it's a Galardo or Murcielargo. I think it is a Murci though. He has a limited edition Lotus too.

[Kaiser]

Oh shit, we're back on topic ;)


Hehe, delllllllllaaaaaayyyyyed reaction... :D

I should change the title of this thread to "Untargetted Pointless Discussion..."

[J-Birdo]

Anyone else notice the big guy in the background (left side of "guru") smiling? hehehe. That's funny !! :D :p

[hooker]

Holy shit 14 F-ing pages!

[vnv]

Wow, I can't believe you guys are dogging on this guy just because of his lifts. Pretty immature if you ask me. Guess Duchaine was an idiot too eh?

[OuchThatHurts]

Wow, I can't believe you guys are dogging on this guy just because of his lifts. Pretty immature if you ask me. Guess Duchaine was an idiot too eh?
Maybe some were "dogging". How about "discussing" whether or not to accept advice on training from someone who is not a great or below-average lifter?

And Duchaine? That's apples to oranges here!

Way to get off to a good start there junior!

[vnv]

Ouch, c'mon man, hardly anyone was "discussing." Well, maybe they are/were, but after a few pages, I didn't bother reading the remaining 12 :)

Anyway, I've seen ya around the other boards and respect ya. But you just had to add the "junior" in there didn't ya, ya bastard! ;)

[OuchThatHurts]

Ouch, c'mon man, hardly anyone was "discussing." Well, maybe they are/were, but after a few pages, I didn't bother reading the remaining 12 :)

Anyway, I've seen ya around the other boards and respect ya. But you just had to add the "junior" in there didn't ya, ya bastard! ;)LOL... well beneath your name it says junior member! What can I say?

There were definitely a few flames there but you should read kaiser and my comments at least. Wisdom regarding training can come from all sorts of unlikely places. This thread goes off topic more than Hardcopy but there is some good stuff in here. You just have to skip over all the posts about getting laid, wristwatches, Hummers, and gay humor. Give us a chance before you say we're immature. That way, we can prove how immature we really are!

Thanks for taking my post in good fun. 'sall good.