need an expert’s advice

[muscleme]

Hey guy’s I need an expert’s advice here:

My buddy will be doing a lite cycle. How light look below:

1 – 4 400 mg of EQ
1 – 8 10-15 mg of Dbol
1 – 8 10-15 mg of Winstrol
4 – 8 40 -80 mg of Clen

This is his second cycle, on his 1st one be got some gyno, he just has some fatty tissue on his pecs (no lumps for swolen nipple).
It not a lot but it still doesn’t look right. On this cycle he did not use any Nolvadex or Clomid.

Here my (2) questions:

1: What can he take to get rid on the gyno he already has?
2: For his second cycle what kind of PCT do you recomand?

Thanks guys:

[bigguy]

Hey guy’s I need an expert’s advice here:

My buddy will be doing a lite cycle. How light look below:

1 – 4 400 mg of EQ
1 – 8 10-15 mg of Dbol
1 – 8 10-15 mg of Winstrol
4 – 8 40 -80 mg of Clen

This is his second cycle, on his 1st one be got some gyno, he just has some fatty tissue on his pecs (no lumps for swolen nipple).
It not a lot but it still doesn’t look right. On this cycle he did not use any Nolvadex or Clomid.

Here my (2) questions:

1: What can he take to get rid on the gyno he already has?
2: For his second cycle what kind of PCT do you recomand?

Thanks guys:

I'm not an expert and you wanna ask kaiser, alin, rajjin or a few of the other guys but the EQ is not being took long enough, 10-15mg of dbol will do nothing much and its being taken too long it will damage your liver.
The winstrol is not a high enough dose and 40-80mg clen will have him climbing the walls and thinking the fed's were after him (it would me anyway)

Your friend probably got gyno because he did not research what he was doing. which seems like the case again in this cycle. Gyno has to be surgically removed in an operation......

PCT should be as recommended on this board.
Personally I do 1500 iu of HCG 3 times a week starting the week before i finish my cycle to bring back the boys. Then depending on what gear i'm using (At the moment winstol and Test prop, which are short acting and do not stay in the body actively for long) I start using clomid and novla for 3 weeks at 100mg day for clomid and 40 for nolva reducing to 20mg nolva and 50mg clomid on 3rd week.

Not flaming your friend but his cycle is not good and he will not get the gains he wants and could harm himself and increase the gyno. Tell him to read up lots of info and actively watch this and other boards and he will pick it up in no time

[rAJJIN]

Not flaming your friend but his cycle is not good and he will not get the gains he wants and could harm himself and increase the gyno. Tell him to read up lots of info and actively watch this and other boards and he will pick it up in no time


BigGuy is Right.... That is one terrable looking cycle.
what is your 'partners Goals? Please advise him that He needs better guidance.. Did he Just make that up or did someone actually suggest this?

First thing listed on ANY cycle imho should be some type of testosterone.
if for lean muscle then suspension,prop or even sus or Omna...
if for bulking id say Cyp or enanthate...Realy at this point thats all he needs
and Thats depending on his age and If he has already reached his limit naturally.

[muscleme]

this would be his second cycle, he did Dbol, deca and some sust last time.

Right now he wants to gain about 15- 20 lbs of mass.

I told him that was a bad cycle (listed above). With those items what kind of cycle would your recommad?


thanks.

[bigguy]

If e wants to gain mass then i would forget about the clen completely it is not needed in a 2nd cycle. I would also forget about the winny as well at this stage and concentrate on putting on size.

I would use dbol at 50mg ed weeks 1-4
eq 400mg per week 1-10
I would add test e at 500mg week 1-10 and start PCT 14 days after last shot of
test E.

Your friend should eat like a horse and get as much clean calories down him as possible. on my first cycles I used to train hard and eat fairly well and couldn't understand why I would put weight on but peak after a few weeks. You need to EAT EAT EAT. train hard and use the aas as an added bonus.

My advice that I would have liked to have been told when I started is to not do too many things at once. maybe just do a test e cycle with 4 weeks of dbol to kick it in. That way you are learning what different compunds do to you.
If you take sus you got 4 different tests running round your body plus decca plus dbol. how are you to know what is doing what???

Your friend should read, read , read you can google any anabolic and get loads of info on each one...............................

Good luck

[rAJJIN]

this would be his second cycle, he did Dbol, deca and some sust last time.

Right now he wants to gain about 15- 20 lbs of mass.

I told him that was a bad cycle (listed above). With those items what kind of cycle would your recommad?


thanks.

actually that one looks much more my style. :)
swap the sust for Cyp or enan.

Bigguy is giving you good advice, Id listen to what he is saying ;)