first cycle

[igotups20]

I've never done steroids and have made my first order. just waiting on it to get here, but i have sust 250 and EQ coming in and i can't decide how much i want to take. i was thinking about 500 Mg a week of the sust 250 and 400 Mg a week of the EQ. I am 6'4 205 LBS 23 years old and been working out hard since i was 19 (weighed in at 163 LBS).i want to be atleast 225LBS and pretty lean, i don't know my body fat % but i would say around 10-12%. i run and eat pretty well. someone help me out here and give me some advice on what they would do. Also, i wanted to stick myself once and just put the sust and EQ in at the same time. how do you do it with the satchets? did it for a friend a couple of times but they wheren't in sachets so it wasn't very difficult to do. i ordered enough sust 250 and EQ to do this for 8 weeks. taking HCG for PCT.

[DTownDandy]

I've never done steroids and have made my first order. just waiting on it to get here, but i have sust 250 and EQ coming in and i can't decide how much i want to take. i was thinking about 500 Mg a week of the sust 250 and 400 Mg a week of the EQ. I am 6'4 205 LBS 23 years old and been working out hard since i was 19 (weighed in at 163 LBS).i want to be atleast 225LBS and pretty lean, i don't know my body fat % but i would say around 10-12%. i run and eat pretty well. someone help me out here and give me some advice on what they would do. Also, i wanted to stick myself once and just put the sust and EQ in at the same time. how do you do it with the satchets? did it for a friend a couple of times but they wheren't in sachets so it wasn't very difficult to do. i ordered enough sust 250 and EQ to do this for 8 weeks. taking HCG for PCT.

Wow, where to start...First off, you need to use the SEARCH BUTTON but since Im up....ill hook you up. All you need is testosterone(sust) 500mg for 12 weeks. Depending on if you have stealth or not, you can pin E3D and be gtg. This way you should minimize any side effects by keeping you blood levels more even. As far as the sachets go, buy some sterile vials and transfer from sachet to vial. As far as the PCT goes....use the search button and post back what you find!:cool:

[wafinale]

Dude HCG for your PCT is NOT complete...take Dtowndaddys advice and start searching up on a better PCT...


Nolvadex and clomid for after your cycle

HCG, arimidex or letro for during your cycle

and since this is your first cycle and you dont know if your gyno prone ...I would def recommend getting arimidex or letro.

[willie99]

Indeed, where to start ...

1. First timers = 500 mg Test only for 12-14 weeks. Period. Get to know your body first, see what sides you get, see how you handle that first. Then go from there. Throw the Eq in a closet somewhere and look at it next year.

2. PCT = nolva and/or chlomid for 3-4 weeks. Starting couple days after last shot of short esters and approx. 2 weeks after long esters shot.

3. HCG is not for PCT ... its for during cycles to avoid balls getting tiny. With test only @ 500 you dont even need it imo.

4. If you get sides .. take 10 mg of nolva a day and see how it goes, it goes bad, take more, it goes even worse after that, stop.

Thats for starters ...

but my best advise is do some more research ... and IF you are using this board to get info (im glad you did). Please ask and research BEFORE you order stuff.

[igotups20]

hey thanks. I've been researching this stuff for bout 2 months now. i have a bout a 3 hour dead time between classes and after reading everywhere it seems like everyone says something different or articles or websites such as Isteroids.com all say different things, that's why i subscribed to this because people are answering questions by trial and error. couple of things though. Is it safe to use Test for longer then 10 weeks? seems like anything longer then that your taking a lot higher chance of shutting down your natural test for good. The person i'm getting it from said taking the EQ with the sust 250 would be a great stack and could also be a lean stack depending on what you ate and cardio, so that was my plan. anyways thanks i actually trust yalls judgment more than I do articles or other websites simply because you guys have actually tried it.

[wafinale]

EQ and Test is a great stack, but for a first cycle Test alone is a better stack.

Make Eq and Test ur 2nd Cycle.

[willie99]

hey thanks. I've been researching this stuff for bout 2 months now. i have a bout a 3 hour dead time between classes and after reading everywhere it seems like everyone says something different or articles or websites such as Isteroids.com all say different things, that's why i subscribed to this because people are answering questions by trial and error. couple of things though. Is it safe to use Test for longer then 10 weeks? seems like anything longer then that your taking a lot higher chance of shutting down your natural test for good. The person i'm getting it from said taking the EQ with the sust 250 would be a great stack and could also be a lean stack depending on what you ate and cardio, so that was my plan. anyways thanks i actually trust yalls judgment more than I do articles or other websites simply because you guys have actually tried it.

You can run test longer then 10 weeks no problem. I have run 5 and 6 months cycles taking 500 mg/ test a week. As long as you use your head. Keep an AI and SERM's on hand just in case and well ... I know it sounds cliche, but listen to your body and see how it responds. I for one need Nolva during cycle and sometimes I grad a-dex (almost never) because I begin to suffer acne and hair loss after week 7-8 or so.

So first take a test only cycle for about 12 weeks @ 500/week and just see what your responds is and go from there. If you take multiple compounds the first time you will have no idea what causes the problems if you get any.

Good to see you do research, keep it up, you learn something every day