1st cycle-- Need help!

[bodyrocker]

Looking to start my 1st cycle ever. Plan tri-tren 1cc E3D and sustanon 2cc EW. Any feedback on this? I need a little help here.

[countryboyWVU]

Rethink that.

post your stats/goals

[wafinale]

FIRST CYCLE IS SHOULD BE TEST ONLY... as far as TREN GOES....HELL NO...u shouldnt even be using TREN ACETATE let alone Tri Tren!!! SUS at 400-600 a week should be fine ...yall hear alot of different methods on pinning the sus to keep your blood levels more balanced but pinning 2wice a week should be fine...hows ur PCT????

[bodyrocker]

6'
210lbs
BFP= 20-23

Just started working out again due to a broken back. Got a little slouchy laying around for a year. I would like to stay around 200-220 lbs but would like to bulk and cut. Any good recommendation of a cycle is welcomed.

[panther#1]

How old are you?

[countryboyWVU]

Your body fat is way to high, get it down to 15-18% before you think of using juice, if you do that then your serious about changing your lifestyle enough to start AAS.

[DTownDandy]

My advice...get bodyfat to atleast 15-16% before starting ANY AAS. You can do this by diet/cardio. Post training regimine as well as diet....I think your a ways off still from using AAS.

[bodyrocker]

so, if i go with just sus, would it be cool to pin 1EW or is 2Xw better?

[DTownDandy]

my advice, stay awy from sus and go with test E or C, 500mg 1xweek. But I know your NOT ready because you shoulda answered your own question if you were. Goodluck

[bodyrocker]

32 yo
3.5 months ago I was 32 pct. I am on a strict diet and do a lot of cardio. Hopefully it won't be much longer until I am around the 18 pct mark.

[DTownDandy]

I think 18 is still to high if you are prone to gyno...if it were me id get it lower...Just my 0.02

[bodyrocker]

we all have to start somewhere. that is why I need you guys' experience and expertise to set me on the right track.

[DTownDandy]

the right track....get bodyfat to 15% and then, after getting more knowledge off this board, post a cycle for critique and we"ll help you out...Save your money for now, you will be happy with your decision. Read everything you can about what you will be putting into your body. You should know half lifes, sides, PCT, what AI's/ SERMS to run, etc. etc. etc.

[panther#1]

Think in terms of a two part goal setting. Goal #1 is get down to sub 12%. If this takes a month or six so be it. Clearly without aas you can get there. It is a matter of determination with diet, training and cardio. Once you get there look at a simple 10-12 week single ester test. Follow with clomid and nolva. Have AI on hand to suppress gyno if it arises. So simple it hurts.

[bodyrocker]

I appreciate all your help with my decisions. You guys are right, I need to learn more about juicing first and I plan to do this while getting down around 12-15. Thanks guys!! Hope you will continue to answer my questions as I study and learn all I need to know.

[~~<StrengthbyGod>~~]

Looking to start my 1st cycle ever. Plan tri-tren 1cc E3D and sustanon 2cc EW. Any feedback on this? I need a little help here.

This is the worst idea I have ever heard. Tri-tren? First cycle? Are you aware that trenbelone is the strongest injectable on the market? The possible sides?

Testosterone only is the best choice for a first cycle. Testosterone is a hormone that is naturally occuring in your body. You should see how your body reacts to it before trying anything else. I have tried a lot of other steroids but only do test these days just because.

Research. You are putting powerful hormones in your body and there is a reason this is a controlled substance in most places in the world.

[drob29]

Think in terms of a two part goal setting. Goal #1 is get down to sub 12%. If this takes a month or six so be it. Clearly without aas you can get there. It is a matter of determination with diet, training and cardio. Once you get there look at a simple 10-12 week single ester test. Follow with clomid and nolva. Have AI on hand to suppress gyno if it arises. So simple it hurts.

BUMP. good post.

bodyrocker sounds like your open to suggestions, which is good. :cool:

Hang out here for the next six months and read up and ask questions when you have them (and use the search button up top, click advanced search) and a year from now you will be where you want to be now.

If you use steroids now (over 12%) you wont be happy with the results IMO.

And ...that cycle? at some point you will lol about that...

welcome to the board

[joe4fsu]

man.. I leave for spring break with my daughter.. come back thinking ridiculous questions would be gone.. and they dont... where is Jello when yo need him..

I am now introducing a new twist on alinboard... I am going to be giving out a MORON CARD to the most retarted post of the day... its getting bad on here

[jackedntan27]

You need to get your bf much lower, under 15%. Try good diet and training and an ECA stack What is you diet currently like? Fats, Carbs, Protein Intake. Along with types of foods you eat number of meals all that good stuff. Also post current supplements you are taking.

[blazen2000]

man.. I leave for spring break with my daughter.. come back thinking ridiculous questions would be gone.. and they dont... where is Jello when yo need him..

I am now introducing a new twist on alinboard... I am going to be giving out a MORON CARD to the most retarted post of the day... its getting bad on here

That's the second one you have given out.

[joe4fsu]

I know.. I just got my MORON CARD order in.. LOL

[countryboyWVU]

man.. I leave for spring break with my daughter.. come back thinking ridiculous questions would be gone.. and they dont... where is Jello when yo need him..

I am now introducing a new twist on alinboard... I am going to be giving out a MORON CARD to the most retarted post of the day... its getting bad on here

why are you a dick? You should make sure you have one instead of being one

Bill seems like a cool guy, willing and open for suggestions and opinions. unlike other you can gladly give the moron card too haha

[newuser11]

I appreciate all your help with my decisions. You guys are right, I need to learn more about juicing first and I plan to do this while getting down around 12-15. Thanks guys!! Hope you will continue to answer my questions as I study and learn all I need to know.

I think if you get to 12-15% you probably wont even consider using because you are going to look so much different. You will most likely feel much better about the way you look.
Whatever you choose you have to become comfortable with yourself what makes you think getting bigger and more cut will do that? Id say just follow the weight loss advice everyone is giving and that may be enough, if not then do your research and youll get help here.

[joe4fsu]

why are you a dick? You should make sure you have one instead of being one

Bill seems like a cool guy, willing and open for suggestions and opinions. unlike other you can gladly give the moron card too haha

A) because I can be... B) you dont want to pick a fight here ok.. you are still a newbie and you have given out some horrible advise in the past so why dont you stick to minding your own business

my advise is solid... so take it or leave it but that is not a way to get liked on here is calling out vets

For that, you get a MORON CARD

[joe4fsu]

BUMP this!