ethyl oleate based propionate

[blackson]

Anyone tried ethyl oleate based propionate? I've heard it's almost painless and would like to try it myself.

[CollinDC]

im useing it right now, yup painless going in .. little extra soreness few days later tho

[tdizzle28]

G2G on the pain side, allows alot higher concentration as well. I've seen over 200mg/ml

[BULKING_N]

And is the test prop available from alin, an EO based preparation?? Thanks

[superbeast22]

And is the test prop available from alin, an EO based preparation?? Thanks

negative, apercot oil :)

as for EO based test prop, i love it, but will never use it again - oil + syrgines work great, EO makes the rubber pusher thing stick and its a PITA!!! you have to push soooo hard to make it go down then when it finally does it goes in tooo fast!!!

EO based test prop is painless, but not because of the EO...

I use oil based test prop 200mg/ml and there is zero pain, none, nothing. no matter where i shoot. all depends on the quality of the lab guys

[375RANGER]

i guess im lucky, i have no pain w stealth prop.:)

[BULKING_N]

Well thats what I think. It comes down to the source of the prop and the quality.

Are you sure its not the syringe simply being a bit defective. On a very rare occasion, the rubber plunger will simply not go down no matter how hard you squeese down on it!

I guess it also comes down to the individual and how sensitive you are to the prop. As a commercial pilot, I cant be in excessive pain since I have to sit on my butt for several hours at a time and abstaining from work or limping is simply not an OPTION when my duty time is on.

[375RANGER]

Well thats what I think. It comes down to the source of the prop and the quality.

Are you sure its not the syringe simply being a bit defective. On a very rare occasion, the rubber plunger will simply not go down no matter how hard you squeese down on it!

I guess it also comes down to the individual and how sensitive you are to the prop. As a commercial pilot, I cant be in excessive pain since I have to sit on my butt for several hours at a time and abstaining from work or limping is simply not an OPTION when my duty time is on.

honestly prop is known for being painful, ive just never had a prob with it.

[BULKING_N]

Hey 375 Stranger.. I know 90% of the rants on prop have been the excrucciating pain. Getting some pain is a price I pay and Im not scared of it but if its lingering and hampeing my ability to train, walk properly etc, I do have a problem with that. So im looking at the options to minimise that risk and seeing what others can attest too with their use of the EO based proponate... Or even with adding 1:1 ratio of sterile EO to the prop vial..

I read one of the reviews on alin prop product that the Balkan version is considered the best proponate being sold amongst the three types when it comes to soreness..

[Alin]

i guess im lucky, i have no pain w stealth prop.:)

Propionate has never caused me pain issues whether it be Balkan or Stealth.

[superbeast22]

Well thats what I think. It comes down to the source of the prop and the quality.

Are you sure its not the syringe simply being a bit defective. On a very rare occasion, the rubber plunger will simply not go down no matter how hard you squeese down on it!

I guess it also comes down to the individual and how sensitive you are to the prop. As a commercial pilot, I cant be in excessive pain since I have to sit on my butt for several hours at a time and abstaining from work or limping is simply not an OPTION when my duty time is on.

im sure its not a bad syringe lol. 100% sure. it wasnt just once.

[BULKING_N]

OK then super beast ... I imagine if you mix just the amount of EO you need at the time with prop, that be the best thing.

[superbeast22]

or just have painless prop to begin with...