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huvill413
03-23-2009, 11:51 AM
I will starting my 8 week cutting cycle which will consist of winstrol, equipoise,test propionate and cytomel T3. I know the dosages for winstrol and cytomel but I'm new to test P and equipoise. I will be finishing my last cycle of test cypionate which I injected in my glutes and D bol. My concern and question is where do I inject the Test P and equipoise? I know the equipoise is once a week but the Test P is every other day. Some tell me to inject the Test P on my thigh? but what kind of size needle would be require for that? and should I mix any of them with anything to lower the pain of the shot. Can I do without Test P? Any help would be great.
huvill413

fueledbyhate
03-23-2009, 11:56 AM
post stats and diet the guys will be able to help you better

blackson
03-23-2009, 12:22 PM
Yes please post stats: age, height, weight, diet etc.

I can help you with a few things right of the bat though. Prop can be a painful injection so you're going to want to mix your EQ with it and inject every other day, you will need at least 4 sites for this which is very simple. I personally use right glute, left glute, right delt, left delt. Other guys like to use their quads as well and there is nothing wrong with that, the more injection sites you have the less scar tissue buildup you will have in any one site.

As for needle size and gauge you will need minimum 5/8" 25 gauge for your delts, maximum 1" 25 gauge. For your glutes you will need a minimum 1.25" 25 gauge, maximum 23 gauge 1.5" (recommended size)

huvill413
03-23-2009, 12:39 PM
stats are
5'7"
200lbs
bf 15%
41yrs old
I thought EQ was administered once a week but I might be wrong. Anyway, if combining the Test P and EQ elivates the pain, how much EQ and how much Test P. Another question, would winstrol and EQ be enough? along with cytomel T3 be enough along with a good diet? or I need the Test P.

willie99
03-23-2009, 01:13 PM
If you're gonna use T3, you most defeniately want Prop with it, or it will eat away muscles.

I would leave out the Eq in your cycle btw ... just prop and winny will do. No need for the Eq. You might wanna consider running Clen with it instead, it makes for a powerfull fatloss combo. One last thing, I assume you know how to use T3? I recommend not using it longer than 6 weeks myself.

Jello
03-23-2009, 01:15 PM
stats are
5'7"
200lbs
bf 15%
41yrs old
I thought EQ was administered once a week but I might be wrong. Anyway, if combining the Test P and EQ elivates the pain, how much EQ and how much Test P. Another question, would winstrol and EQ be enough? along with cytomel T3 be enough along with a good diet? or I need the Test P.

You need Test as a base for any cycle. Normally guys pin EQ with another long ester twice a week, but since you are using Test P you will want to divide the EQ dose you are planning to run up so that you can mix it with the Test. You could just pin EQ twice a week and the Test P EOD, but you will be pinning almost every day, and that would not be fun. I would pin 1ml of Test P EOD and .75ml of EQ with the Test.

huvill413
03-23-2009, 01:42 PM
So you're saying to use Test P and EQ together when I pin EOD? you think I will have alot of scar tissue if I pin in the glutes all the time? and do I do that for the whole 8 week cycle along with winstrol?

juced_porkchop
03-23-2009, 02:13 PM
EQ less then 14weeks is a waste of time.
you obviosly havent done your research on cycles "maybe you read the drug profiles" but thats not enuff.

keep readying.
EQ one time a week: yes but prop eod so to mix it would cut down on pain from prop. that why it was suggested.

winny is harsh and to me not worth a shit but thats my oppinion.
i would say go for tbol or anavar
cycle:
wk1-8 testprop 100mg eod
wk1-6 tbol 40mg ED
wk1-6 T3 25-50mcg ED


i think it would be very dimb to run eq for your cycle and you would have to stop it 2 weeks before your test so 6 weeks of eq is just that much more pointless.

keep reading thow

Jello
03-23-2009, 02:58 PM
I didn't pay attention to the first post. If you are planning on only running this cycle for 8 weeks then forget about the EQ. I would go with Prop and Var instead of Winstrol since I didn't really care for how my joints felt when I took it.

huvill413
03-23-2009, 04:27 PM
Do you think I can add filtered grapeseed oil to my EOD Test P shot to limit the pain? I already got the winstrol so I need to use that but will use the Anavar for next time. So no go on EQ huh? not even for the first 4 weeks mixed with the Test P? waste of money!

juced_porkchop
03-23-2009, 09:26 PM
Do you think I can add filtered grapeseed oil to my EOD Test P shot to limit the pain? I already got the winstrol so I need to use that but will use the Anavar for next time. So no go on EQ huh? not even for the first 4 weeks mixed with the Test P? waste of money!

deff a waste of money i would not use it. save it and get more the next time you cycke and run it for atleast 12-14 weeks "alot say 16-18 min" but no way less then that.

you can cut it with oil but make sure its steril so you dotn go and get an ifection. the prop pain might not be much and you will prob get used to it after a few shots anyway. but you could cut it.
im using tenACE and they say ace is worse then prop but it dosnt bug me much.

ps. winny is one of the rare few that is STILL liver toxic even when its made to be shot. its still alterd to bypass the liver wich makes it toxic to in pill form or inject form its still bad. why im saying this is basicly dont runn it for too long. and also you CAN drink it if you dont want to shoot it as it will still be effective (BUT DONT DO THIS WITH ANY OTHER OILS) as it would be a wast of $$$ lol.
just in case you didnt know.

huvill413
03-24-2009, 09:22 PM
so run Prop for all 8 weeks and win for how long?