Tren E + Test E cycle advice

[somal007]

I am 25yrs old, 5ft9, 180lbs.
I am about to start my 2nd cycle as follows:

Week 1-10 : Test E 500mg a week (250mg on Mon and 250mg on Thu)
Week 1-8 : Tren E 300mg a week (150mg on Mon and 150mg on Thu)

PCT:
Week 1: Clomid 100mg a day
Week 2: Clomid 100mg a day
Week 3: Clomid 50mg a day
Week 4: Clomid 50mg a day

How soon after the last Test E injection should I start my PCT, and is there anything else I need to add (HCG, letrozole,arimidex,caber)? I have heard conflicting views.

[joe4fsu]

No Tren for you... if you are asking when to start PCT you need to do more research! Tell me about your first cycle.. what happened.. how old were you... your cycle and PCT regimine is that of a high school pre-teen... homeowrk bro

I am here to help but you need to help your self... 10 minutes with the search button will get you all of the information y9ou need especially that you are not going to use Tren.. it seems that at your weight you fucked up your first cycle and I would stick to a test only cycle till you get AAS down...

I am being honest... do some research and post back in your thread... I will help

[Alin]

I am 25yrs old, 5ft9, 180lbs.
I am about to start my 2nd cycle as follows:

Week 1-10 : Test E 500mg a week (250mg on Mon and 250mg on Thu)
Week 1-8 : Tren E 300mg a week (150mg on Mon and 150mg on Thu)

PCT:
Week 1: Clomid 100mg a day
Week 2: Clomid 100mg a day
Week 3: Clomid 50mg a day
Week 4: Clomid 50mg a day

How soon after the last Test E injection should I start my PCT, and is there anything else I need to add (HCG, letrozole,arimidex,caber)? I have heard conflicting views.

START your PCT around 10 days after last TEST Inject.

I would add NOLVADEX during your PCT:
WK1: 40MG DAILY
WK2: 30MG DAILY
WK3: 20MG DAILY

[somal007]

I know your saying stay off the tren but im only dong 300mg a week along with 500mg of test e a week. What PCT would you recommend?

[willie99]

I'd recommend Test E only for you my man. Do 500/w for 14 weeks, start PCT with chlomid and nolva 2 weeks after last shot. And really ... get your diet and training in order first or its a waste of money and time. Remember gear is just 1/3 of the work....if that.

cheers

[joe4fsu]

Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500-mg EW
weeks 1-12 A-dex @ 0.25-mg EOD (on hand)
Weeks 14 Nolva 50mg ED/Clo 100mg ED
Weeks 15-16 Nolva 40mg ED/Clo 50mg ED

[Kott425]

Stay off the tren. You shouldn't start out with Tren E anyways. Some people have a really bad reaction to tren and if its Enanthate you are stuck with those sides for acouple weeks. I only get night sweets from it but I heard some of the other sides can get pretty nasty. Stick with Test. It's only your second cycle no need to rush things.

[mikedizzle]

add some deca, or EQ in place of the tren, 300mg a week

[tpd01883]

If you want to do tren, then do tren. Just be prepared to deal with the sides if you get them. As long as you're only adding one compound at a time I think you will be fine. That way you can know what compound is giving what sides incase you need to combat them.

At 300mg/week you will likely not have terrible sides from the tren. Tren is very unique and no amount of cycles can prepare you for the sides. If you're going to get them, you will get them after 5 cycles or after 1. I'd honestly reccomend that you use tren ace because if 4 weeks in you find you can't sleep more than 3 hours a night and feel like crap all day from the tren, then on enanthate you're going to feel that way for a good 6-8 more days. But on acetate you might only feel that way for another day-day and a half.

I'm on tren a right now and on the days I do injections I have trouble sleeping. The other days I don't have any problems. This is a prime example of how fast acting the acetate ester is.

As long as you have done all your research and know what you are getting into with tren I think you will be fine.

I would start my PCT with nolva / clomid 14 days after my last test injection. Personally I can feel when to start PCT. My sex drive will drop right around 16 days after my last injection. I start it after 14 days anyways though.

You can prolly get away with the PCT you listed. It is not for a pre-teen girl or w/e joe said. But It might be safe to do a nolva / clomid PCT since tren is pretty suppressive.

I would do it thus:

Week 1: Nolvadex 40mg/ Clomid 100mg ED
Week 2: Nolvadex 40mg/ Clomid 100mg ED
Week 3: Nolvadex 20mg/ Clomid 50mg ED
Week 4: Nolvadex 20mg/ Clomid 50mg ED

If you feel you arn't recovered Stay on 50mg clomid ED for another 2 weeks.

If you want to use HCG use it before PCT either 500iu e5d starting in week 4 and stopping the week before PCT or what I do. 2 weeks before last inject start doing 500iu eod. Then for the first week after last injection I do 500iu eod like before and the final week before I start PCT I do 1000iu eod.

[drob29]

I am 25yrs old, 5ft9, 180lbs.
I am about to start my 2nd cycle as follows:
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...... it seems that at your weight you fucked up your first cycle and I would stick to a test only cycle till you get AAS down...
I am being honest... do some research and post back in your thread... I will help

BUMP.

One word: FOOD

You need to learn to eat before you do any more AAS. Its not the steroids that add weight/muscle it's your diet.

And whats with the 170-180 lb people looking to run a cycle lately? Oh yeah....summer is coming. Time to get huge for the beach:rolleyes:

[tpd01883]

BUMP.

One word: FOOD

You need to learn to eat before you do any more AAS. Its not the steroids that add weight/muscle it's your diet.

And whats with the 170-180 lb people looking to run a cycle lately? Oh yeah....summer is coming. Time to get huge for the beach:rolleyes:

No no it's spring break in 2 weeks. I'ma run a hyuggge test e cycle for the next couple weeks to get in shape for spring break! Time to hit the gym boys.

[alant007]

No shit!!! My sister has a house at the beach that I hit 3 weekends a month in the summer. Looking at people my age makes me feel great for the work I put into myself. :D

[PitViper33]

i agree with everyone else saying test only, maybe start doing some research on eq or winnie, i dont understand how tren came up as a thought as this being your second run

[Kg551_41]

10 days post - always good advice

[BigRaf]

START your PCT around 10 days after last TEST Inject.

I would add NOLVADEX during your PCT:
WK1: 40MG DAILY
WK2: 30MG DAILY
WK3: 20MG DAILY

BUMP^