Tbol and Var cycle

[West Coast All Star]

I have run this in the past but I forgot the dosing and pct that went along with it. Can anyone give me the run down here? I would very much appreciate input from those who understand the cycle and/or have ran the same cycle.

I was thinking of either 40 Var/60 Tbol and running that for 8-10 weeks. I am not sure if I should go full strength on both from day one or gradually start. Should I start with one and add the other 4 weeks in to it? What kind of pct should I run.

Thanks. Again, it has been probably three or four years since I ran an oral only cycle and would appreciate the input.

Stats:
6'0"
215lbs
looking to cut/add lean muscle

[musclesource]

alright... first off your asking what type of pct to run & your also asking about taking 2 orals in 1 cycle...
& it really doesn't matter if they both aromatize or not..

the message I'm getting off of you with your 1st post is that you don't know much...

& your 6'0 215lbs...
I'm 5'8 215lbs... & I could bulk a bit more then cut...

I don't think at your height & weight you need to be cutting...

[jamtheone]

My spring/summer cycle is going to look like this:

1-4 40-60mg tbol + 40mg anavar
4-8 60mg anavar
8-12 40-30-20-10mg nolvadex + 4-3-2-1 cap of novedex xt for test boost.
1-8 cycle support

The gains from tbol seems to slow down in week 4-5.

[musclesource]

My spring/summer cycle is going to look like this:

1-4 40-60mg tbol + 40mg anavar
4-8 60mg anavar
8-12 40-30-20-10mg nolvadex + 4-3-2-1 cap of novedex xt for test boost.
1-8 cycle support

The gains from tbol seems to slow down in week 4-5.

I would probably suggest you get your own thread so you can get better responses...

[West Coast All Star]

I guess we all have different goals in life. I am 35 and I once went for "HUGE." Due to some life altering injuries (mainly my back) and having a family I am content with a different physique and different goals. It's not all about "hey look how big that dude is" or "wow I can't believe how many plates he is pushing." I don't need my ass slapped when I bench over 400 with someone coming on to me in some gay gym-rat way.

I am beyond that and just don't care to be honest with you. I would be happy at 6% body fat and 215 pounds solid. Right now that means cutting and adding lean muscle; simple as that. Again, I have ran this stack before while cutting and adding lean muscle weight. I don't appreciate the comment that I don't know much because that is simply not true. Maybe I should just stay at the steroid.com board.

Thanks anyway.

[West Coast All Star]

Thanks for your input Jamtheone!

My spring/summer cycle is going to look like this:

1-4 40-60mg tbol + 40mg anavar
4-8 60mg anavar
8-12 40-30-20-10mg nolvadex + 4-3-2-1 cap of novedex xt for test boost.
1-8 cycle support

The gains from tbol seems to slow down in week 4-5.

[Alin]

I have run this in the past but I forgot the dosing and pct that went along with it. Can anyone give me the run down here? I would very much appreciate input from those who understand the cycle and/or have ran the same cycle.

I was thinking of either 40 Var/60 Tbol and running that for 8-10 weeks. I am not sure if I should go full strength on both from day one or gradually start. Should I start with one and add the other 4 weeks in to it? What kind of pct should I run.

Thanks. Again, it has been probably three or four years since I ran an oral only cycle and would appreciate the input.

Stats:
6'0"
215lbs
looking to cut/add lean muscle


I would just run ONE at a time.
ANAVAR 40-60mg 10-12wks.

[musclesource]

I guess we all have different goals in life. I am 35 and I once went for "HUGE." Due to some life altering injuries (mainly my back) and having a family I am content with a different physique and different goals. It's not all about "hey look how big that dude is" or "wow I can't believe how many plates he is pushing." I don't need my ass slapped when I bench over 400 with someone coming on to me in some gay gym-rat way.

I am beyond that and just don't care to be honest with you.


damn wtf is up with that dude?

& I don't know what the hell your talkin about a family..
I was 14 when I had my 1st kid...
been with the same girl since & been on my own for the past 7 years...
talk to me about a damn family.

& btw,
you should have just come out & said you wasn't lookin for big

anyone in a steroid forum is gonna be looked at as tryin to get 'BIG'

[jamtheone]

I would probably suggest you get your own thread so you can get better responses...

I'm not looking for response.

West coast all star asked about dose and pct and I just told him what i'm going to do.

[jamtheone]

I would just run ONE at a time.
ANAVAR 40-60mg 10-12wks.

Can you explain why you would do one at a time?
Is it because it's two orals?

My last cycle was 1-6 tbol 40-60mg, 4-7 var 30mg with cycle support and got blood test in week 6 and my liver number was normal not even a bit high.
I know people are different, just saying that in my experience it was not a liver-killer.

I know that i should have run the var longer to get results from it but i stopped because i wanted to save my last pills for my spring/summer cycle.

[musclesource]

I'm not looking for response.

West coast all star asked about dose and pct and I just told him what i'm going to do.

yea... I noticed that after I looked over your post...

[bigego615]

I would only run one at a time also. Will destroy your liver for good if you're now careful.

Read up a little more and make sure you are doing everything right.

and DIET DIET!!

[SmokenDBOY]

does this sound like a decent cycle? tbol 6 weeks 50mg/d,, then var 40mg/d at 4 weeks?

[jamtheone]

does this sound like a decent cycle? tbol 6 weeks 50mg/d,, then var 40mg/d at 4 weeks?

You have to run var longer to get result from it. 8-12 weeks is the normal length of var cycles. If i have not got gyno 3 weeks ago a would be running tbol 60mg week 1-4 and var 30mg 1-4 and bump the var to 60mg week 5-10.

[joelittle]

alright... first off your asking what type of pct to run & your also asking about taking 2 orals in 1 cycle...
& it really doesn't matter if they both aromatize or not..

the message I'm getting off of you with your 1st post is that you don't know much...

& your 6'0 215lbs...
I'm 5'8 215lbs... & I could bulk a bit more then cut...

I don't think at your height & weight you need to be cutting...

i ve been on this site for quite some time :) love it but shit m8 way bust someones balls "you dont know much" what crap to say in a post to someone that is asking help.
I now know a shit load of stuff but there is probably 3 shit loads more i dont know.
Thats why we have a forum m8 to help people :)
Sorry as you can see from my post i keep quite but seems to be more and more shit kicking these days than leanding a helping hand
so lov you all keep it to Q&A and keep the peeps coming back or there is no forum :)
best
Joe

[joelittle]

I would only run one at a time also. Will destroy your liver for good if you're now careful.

Read up a little more and make sure you are doing everything right.

and DIET DIET!!

good advice :)
joe

[sactownsav]

My spring/summer cycle is going to look like this:

1-4 40-60mg tbol + 40mg anavar
4-8 60mg anavar
8-12 40-30-20-10mg nolvadex + 4-3-2-1 cap of novedex xt for test boost.
1-8 cycle support

The gains from tbol seems to slow down in week 4-5.



I am about to start a cycle very similar to this, with the exception that I will be running anavar at 30-40 mg per day to not hurt the libido as much...

Anyways, I was going to take Liver longer along with milk thistle for added liver protection.


My question is this..... I know that I can take milk thistle throughout my whole cycle and pct. What about the liver longer? Ive never used it before and dont know if I should take it along with my cycle, start halfway through, or use it as a pct.... If anyone has experence with this please let me know. Thanks in advance...

[walk252]

That's what i've been talking bout someone always trying to stirr some shit up instead of help a brotha. Shit is aggravating!! People like musclesource need to help not act like there a damn pychic. Anyway the guy should have started his thread in the newbie section other than that the man deserves some help based on his question. I feel lucky to know about this board and where i'm from not everyone does. I have no experience with var or tbol so i can't help in that regard, but forget about liverlong buy synthergine. it is worth the money!!

[kalika]

I guess we all have different goals in life. I am 35 and I once went for "HUGE." Due to some life altering injuries (mainly my back) and having a family I am content with a different physique and different goals. It's not all about "hey look how big that dude is" or "wow I can't believe how many plates he is pushing." I don't need my ass slapped when I bench over 400 with someone coming on to me in some gay gym-rat way.

I am beyond that and just don't care to be honest with you. I would be happy at 6% body fat and 215 pounds solid. Right now that means cutting and adding lean muscle; simple as that. Again, I have ran this stack before while cutting and adding lean muscle weight. I don't appreciate the comment that I don't know much because that is simply not true. Maybe I should just stay at the steroid.com board.

Thanks anyway.

i agree with you. bro. 6' at 215lbs is a good weight. god bless man.