FIRST CYCLE ADVICE NEEDED THANKS!

[peptidoglycan]

I flux inbetween 194-200lbs 5'9" about 10%.

I will do:
400mg equipose 1-10 week
25mg Provimed (proviron) 1-10week

Then pct
Nolva + clomid 11-14 week

i am getting Clenbuterol as well... when should i add this in? in pct? or before? and how should i take it? 40 mcg a day? im getting 50 tabs at 40 mcg.

Let me tell you my goals really. Im trying to add mass and stay lean. by the time i do the cycle i should be at about 6%. will this cycle be good for keeping me lean? if i maintain a bodybuilding diet.. oats, eggs, chicken ect.. to about 4000 cal. maybe 40% 40% 20% ratios... i am a meso-endomorph. easy to gain both fat and muscle but can cut easily too. mainly cuse of ephedra and strict diet and excercise regimen. Ive been training 4 years now. most of the time serious then not.

So the real question is about the Clenbuterol and also about the first time cycle? What do you guys think! and thank you in advance!

[DTownDandy]

Age/Diet?? bad first cycle imo test C @500mgs for 12 weeks, pct

[gabe171]

I have to agree with s.m. Either test c or test e for 12 to 16 wks. 500 to 600mgs a week

[PTE23]

Bump test cycle

[drob29]

Age/Diet?? bad first cycle imo test C @500mgs for 12 weeks, pct

bump this. How old are you?

and EQ alone is a bad first cycle

EDIT: reading this reminds me of a recent thread on ProMuscle, that guy wanted to do EQ alone as well. Your not him, are you? He went by "dianabol".

[DTownDandy]

EQ IMO should never be ran witrhout some kind of test.

[peptidoglycan]

Shit i forgot guys i also got provimed or proviron i believe. 25 mg a day for 10 weeks along with eq.. also what about the clenbuterol question i had?


im 23 diet will be

6 eggs 2 yokes 1 cup oatmeal with berries and Grapefruit. i could possibly throw in a bagel to get some extra calories in.

MRP (one cup oatmeal, scoop protien, 2 heaping tablespoons yogurt(i dont like milk), 2 tbls spoons peanut butter, and complimenting fruit or blueberries (depending on flavor of protien)

Post workout shake anything high in simple sugars to stim insulin and about 30 grams of pure protien isolate.

hour and a half later lunch
Massive sandwich (i buy this at the school)
wheat bread, avocado,hummus,mustard, green peppers, mushrooms, cucumbers, close to half pound of meat.,

MRP(same as above)

Dinner is 2 chicken breast, 2 cups cooked jasmine rice, (alternative is 2 yams or 2 patatoes) and the rest of plate gets filled with veggies!

Then before bed i will take 40g of PM protien... which is usually a casien protien.

ok so im hearing that i need test right? fuck i already order my order... dammit.. So for sure test? my buddy is putting in a order so i can just add to his. so test c should do it? can i combine EQ and test C in the same pin? if so 500mg test and 400mg Eq how ml of syringe would i need? i already bought 3ml will that do? now i feel i should of consulted you guys before hand.of would that mean i need more nolva to take during whole cycle then? i have minor gyno that has carried over from puberty but when im under 6% it practically goes away.. its not gladulary its fat.. my body just likes that area to store fat... lame.. but most of the time its not a problem once i drop some pounds it just sucks that my hips belly and tits is what blows up first.. my arms and legs and back as super cut though lol... lamo. im going to see a doctor to see if i can get on some rhonoxefene i believe thats it i might of spelt it wrong... ok let me know what you guys think!!!!??? i dont believe im suseptable to gyno though.. its just my body stores fat there... so... let me know what you think... is my thought pattern sound or am i messed up and need more knowlege lol. hopefully in which you will provide :) MAny thanks ahead of time

[peptidoglycan]

bump this. How old are you?

and EQ alone is a bad first cycle

EDIT: reading this reminds me of a recent thread on ProMuscle, that guy wanted to do EQ alone as well. Your not him, are you? He went by "dianabol".

lol no im not him:) i just joined yesterday...

[willie99]

Why not a plain good ol test only for 12-14 weeks? And go from there ...

[peptidoglycan]

Why not a plain good ol test only for 12-14 weeks? And go from there ...

i guess so.. but i already got the EQ and Provimed and pct stuff.. Is there any way i can work with this? i dont really have more money to throw at it but i dont want to waste my time either.. i can throw 150 bucks more... enough for test and soome extra nolva.

[DTownDandy]

i guess so.. but i already got the EQ and Provimed and pct stuff.. Is there any way i can work with this? i dont really have more money to throw at it but i dont want to waste my time either.. i can throw 150 bucks more... enough for test and soome extra nolva.

thats why you research before buying. I hope you learned your lesson

[ojs]

i guess so.. but i already got the EQ and Provimed and pct stuff.. Is there any way i can work with this? i dont really have more money to throw at it but i dont want to waste my time either.. i can throw 150 bucks more... enough for test and soome extra nolva.

First cycle really should be just one compound alone...
Test C or E 10 weeks.

PCT Nolva should be all you need.

[PTE23]

If you already got the shit might as well run it, Alin has a no test cycle of Eq Proviron only up, check it out.

[peptidoglycan]

thats why you research before buying. I hope you learned your lesson

I understand where you coming from.. but let me assure you i did.. their is never any possable way i can know it all. I did do research and it seemed ok.. i am a newb at stacking but not a newb to researching and using researching methods. but thank you for your concern and advice. :)

So yes i did learn my lesson.. but sometimes its hard to know it all all the time.

[peptidoglycan]

If you already got the shit might as well run it, Alin has a no test cycle of Eq Proviron only up, check it out.

thank you pte

[peptidoglycan]

From the ffeeedback i recieved i believe i will get test E and nolva and save EQ and provimed for next year.

[GoNe-PoSTaL]

I had great results from SUS 500 for 10 wks + PCT... first cycle!!