tren or deca with test?

[fergman]

ok guys. one thing i cant get a clear decision about is,
test,deca.
test tren.

which combo do you people believe will give the most mass gains?
i know the deca will probably make a person more bloated looking with water than the tren, but would you gain more actual muscle mass from the tren?

either combo would be ran for 12-16 weeks. i would imagine the tren would be tough to make it through 16 weeks without cutting it short.

thanks alot in advance!!!

[DTownDandy]

this depends on how many cycles are under your belt, diet, exercise program, age, and what goals you have. So give us some stats and goals first off and even diet

[superbeast22]

dtowndandy, your off to a good start. i agree, lets get some status and previous cycle experiance. when people touch aas i always assume their diet is on check because none of us are 15 year old kids trying to be a mini jay cutler here right? we all know what it takes to get big.

[Alin]

ok guys. one thing i cant get a clear decision about is,
test,deca.
test tren.

which combo do you people believe will give the most mass gains?
i know the deca will probably make a person more bloated looking with water than the tren, but would you gain more actual muscle mass from the tren?

either combo would be ran for 12-16 weeks. i would imagine the tren would be tough to make it through 16 weeks without cutting it short.

thanks alot in advance!!!

For 12 weeks I would have to suggest TEST/DECA. I wouldnt feel comfortable to recomend more than 6-8wks MAX of TREN ACE.

[juced_porkchop]

we need stats.

[joe4fsu]

Hmm what are stats one might ask??

Age:
Hieght:
Weight:
Body Fat %:
Years of Training:
Years of Gear:
Details of Gear Usage:
Estimated Diet (calories/protien/fat):
Any other useful information you can provide: