Cycle opinion

[federico]

is a future program idea for 8 weeks mass cycle for good level athete 5'8'' 200 pounds ripped

Front load

1-2 1000 mg test cipionate 800 mg eq 100 mg drol day

2-8 750 mg test cip 600 mg eq
3-4 50 mg drol day
5-8 100 mg tren ace eod
1-8 6 ui gh day
1-4 15 ui slin day

ancilliares

1-8 50 mg prov day
1-8 1 femara eod
1-8 40 mcg t3 day
5-8 0.5 mg dostinex every three days
5-8 1000 mg r-ala lipoic acid(500 mg on breakfast and 500 mg with post workout shake)

what do you think about it?

[jstforme]

for such a short cycle i would only stick with propotionate or suspension for my testosterone, ED or EOD shots. ive read from several good sources and people, as well as personal experience that Eq takes at least 4-5 weeks to kick in so i wouldnt use it on this cycle. gh should be used for several(6+) months to see gains, definitly not 8 just weeks.

[federico]

for such a short cycle i would only stick with propotionate or suspension for my testosterone, ED or EOD shots. ive read from several good sources and people, as well as personal experience that Eq takes at least 4-5 weeks to kick in so i wouldnt use it on this cycle. gh should be used for several(6+) months to see gains, definitly not 8 just weeks.
good observation
i use gh ever!
for mass propose 6 ui day
for cutting propose 4 ui day
when i'm off 2 ui day
i know eq need at least 12 weeks for work perfectly but i do a short cycle on mass because use gh at 6 ui day for 12 weeks for me is too expensive and i made cicle in consideration of this
i can use only 4 ui day gh but i know gh for be useful for gain mass need at least 6-8 ui day for a man of my size
do you think is better for a cicle like this use deca in substituition of eq?
about test i think prop an susp are better in cutting and with these i have to do a very high number of shots
but i consider this
especially test susp is absolutely the best test available

[kmoe7]

run test 12-10 weeks especially cyp or enanthate or sustanon those are all long acting esters and take awhile to kick in.. also give us cycle history cuz if first cycle u dont need the drol to strong

[kmoe7]

how bout this

weeks 1-12.. test E 250mgs e4d
weeks 1-5..d bol 50mgs ED
weeks 8-12.. t bol 60mgs ED
weeks 6-12..winstrol 50mgs ED(to solidify ur gains)

clomid and nolva should be on hand and hcg for PCT


300 mg of protein and 5000-6000 cals a day.. and u will get massive.. probly a good 15-20lbs if its ur first cycle

[federico]

how bout this

weeks 1-12.. test E 250mgs e4d
weeks 1-5..d bol 50mgs ED
weeks 8-12.. t bol 60mgs ED
weeks 6-12..winstrol 50mgs ED(to solidify ur gains)

clomid and nolva should be on hand and hcg for PCT


300 mg of protein and 5000-6000 cals a day.. and u will get massive.. probly a good 15-20lbs if its ur first cycle
i start my first cycle 4 years ago!! :D
in my opinion 50 mg d bol are more toxic that the same amount of drol
to many alchilated in my opinion
good idea win at the end i can made a little change
but absolutely i have to use gh and slin

new idea

Front load

1-2 1000 mg test e or cip 800 mg eq 100 mg drol

3-12 750 test e 600 mg eq
3-6 50 mg t-bol
7-12 50 mg win inj day 300 mg tren ace
1-6 humalog 15 ui day for 5 days 12 ui day for 2 days weeks
1-12 40 ui week gh(5 days 6 ui day,2 days 5 ui day)

same ancilliares