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monnolith
01-26-2009, 11:43 PM
Hey all - as I want to focus on strength/speed gains instead of massive size gains, here's my simple proposed cycle:

Week 1: Anavar, 40mg/day
Week 2 to 3: Anavar, 60mg/day
Week 4 to 8: Anavar, 100mg/day
Week 9 to 12: Anavar, 60mg/day
Week 1 through 12: Halotestin, 10mg/day

Assumptions:

- Neither Anavar nor Halotestin aromatize, so PCT is unnecessary;
- Anavar is mild and mild on the liver, so a dose of 50-100mg/day for the average athlete is reasonable; and
- Halotestin is recommended for use in a 40mg/day for 6-8 wk MAXIMUM cycle, so 10mg/day before workouts for 12 wks is reasonable.

Personal stats going in (all natural):

Age: 35
Weight: 215 lbs
Height: 6'4"
BF: 14% (approx)
Health: Excellent (the epitome of health, so my doctor says)
Blood Pressure: 155/70
Resting Heart Rate: 42

(all measurements "cold")
Neck: 17
Arms: 16
Forearms: 13
Chest: 45
Waist: 34
Thighs: 25
Calves: 16

I've been working out for 18 years (off and on, but mostly on), and originally topped out as a teenager at 6'4" and 155 lbs! A tad undernourished at the time I'd say, but 18 years later and I think it's safe to say that I'm at my genetic peak. I'm comfortable with what I have accomplished, but would still like just a "bit more". I figured the combo of 'Var and Halo would suit my needs just fine.

YOUR THOUGHTS ??? ...

juced_porkchop
01-27-2009, 12:55 AM
Assumptions: liver failure, shut down, low test levels, high cholest levels.

ypu need PCT tren dosnt aromatize you telling me you dont need pct with that eather? lol.

maybe this:
anavar 40mg ed wk1-12
testE or cyp 250-350mg ew wk 1-12

eather way you need pct and i wouldent bother with halo.
pct wk15-17 nolva 30mg ed

BigPoppa87
01-27-2009, 11:16 AM
I never understood why people think that they don't need PCT if the steroid they're taking while on cycle doesn't aromatize?! The whole point of PCT is to get your natural testosterone back to normal ASAP so you don't lose all your gains... what does PCT mean to most people? Getting rid of gyno? That's done by taking anti-e's while on cycle. Also, taking anti-e's after you come off is a very bad idea for PCT because it'll slow down your recovery of your natural testosterone.

PTE23
01-27-2009, 12:02 PM
Oral only cycles are always flammed but honestly var only isnt bad and Im sure you will get good results if you can afford it. Your liver will be fine, toxicity is overrated, cholesterol will be fucked as juiced porkchop said but not to worry as it will be back to normal quickly post cycle. As for PCT a mild dose of nolva or clomid for 3 weeks will be sufficient. Good luck and maybe next time add a low dose of test

Sabibaby
01-27-2009, 08:23 PM
Enjoy the strength gains while they last!

12 weeks seems kinda long have you thought of maybe running two short cycles? Like a 6week on 6week off 6week on?

I don't see a need to run PCT on short cycles, I personally rebound quickly almost as if I wasn't on in the first place...