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BAMF6981
04-27-2006, 02:33 AM
this is my very first cycle ever, i am 25 with 5 years in the marines behind me, so id say im pretty athletic. only been doing weights for about a year. i have d-bol and proviron. i dont want to do too many different things at once, loking to start slow for my first cycle, should i do this alone or use something else. also, what is something good to help keep my gains better after the cycle, i was told about clomid, but i dont know. can anyone help me?
jstforme
04-27-2006, 06:06 AM
personally id go with injections. its not like your going to be using that horse tranquilizer needle that they show on tv. id go with 500 mg test per week. you can use the dbol to help kickstart gains the first 3 or 4 weeks. proviron is not absolutly needed but 25mg per day will go a long ways in terms of preventing female pattern fat disposition and water. just remember to be getting your food in and you wil be more than happy with the gains
BAMF6981
04-27-2006, 02:20 PM
i decided to go with test 250mg a week and 20mg dbol a day for my 8 week cycle. i got nolvadex to go with it. how does that sound? i feel pretty good about it and cant wait to get my stuff. thanks for your help.
jstforme
04-27-2006, 08:35 PM
your going to need at least 500mg of test to see anything...not just an opinion, but a fact, but you can still do that in one shot per week. it would be better to do a higher dose a dbol for shorter than small dose for longer. you could even go to 50mg dbol for 4-6 weeks, but no longer than 6 weeks on without a break.
sTaTic
04-27-2006, 08:37 PM
i decided to go with test 250mg a week and 20mg dbol a day for my 8 week cycle. i got nolvadex to go with it. how does that sound? i feel pretty good about it and cant wait to get my stuff. thanks for your help.
My changes:
500mgs/week of test E week 1-8 <---personally I like 12 weeks with this
30-40 mgs dbol/day week 1-4
nolva on hand
week 10 40mgs nolva/day + 150mgs clomid/day
week 11 30mgs nolva/day + 100mgs clomid/day
week 12 20mgs nolva/day + 50mgs clomid/day
I've even done without the clomid and was just fine
BAMF6981
04-28-2006, 05:06 AM
ok 500mg test a week, 20mg dbol for 8 weeks, and 20mg nolvadex for 8 weks. how does this sound? will i see pretty good gains of of this?
jstforme
04-28-2006, 08:16 AM
ok 500mg test a week, 20mg dbol for 8 weeks, and 20mg nolvadex for 8 weks. how does this sound? will i see pretty good gains of of this?
500 test a week for 12 weeks. it will take about 3 weeks for it to kick in
dbol 30-40mg for first 4 weeks, no longer than 6 weeks
you wont need any nolvadex untill pct
yes you will see great gains off of it...providing you eat enough
BAMF6981
04-28-2006, 06:30 PM
ok just a few more questions:
what should i eat?
whats pct?
and what size needle should i use?
opusx
04-28-2006, 06:41 PM
ok just a few more questions:
what should i eat?
whats pct?
and what size needle should i use?
these are questions you should know before ordering. PCT = Post Cycle Therapy. It refers to using drugs to restore natural test production, prevent estrogen and man boobies, etc etc.
eat clean but alot. I can't tell you how much that is a personal thing and varies.
Needle I use is a 23G I believe, if you are shoorting in your ass. 22g is probably more preferred here with others. I also suggest that the lngth of it be 1.5 inches. You can draw the liquid up with a 20g and shoot it with the 22 or 23g.
BAMF6981
04-29-2006, 04:14 AM
ok cool, thanks. i knew to order the nolvadex for that reason, i was just unsure about when and how to take it.
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