Some Dbol questions

[gsxrjut]

Hello all, I've be researching steroids alot lately and decided to join. I'd really like to try just a Dbol only cycle, as I have over 1k 10mg BP D's. I know,I have heard time and time again every cycle should be based on test. I've heard it all that i'll only gain water weight, I'll loose it all, the whole nine yards, yet i'm still curious. I'd like to try running 4 weeks of D at 30mg Ed. I'm also focusing alot on my diet and trying to improve as I see it's very important. I'm a little concerned with the PCT for just a d cycle, I was planning on just having Nolva on hand and starting in on 40 mg/ ed when symptoms of gyno occur but after that I really don't know what else to do? Can anyone with Dbol only experience share their experiences ? Thnk you very much.

[Jello]

Hello all, I've be researching steroids alot lately and decided to join. I'd really like to try just a Dbol only cycle, as I have over 1k 10mg BP D's. I know,I have heard time and time again every cycle should be based on test. I've heard it all that i'll only gain water weight, I'll loose it all, the whole nine yards, yet i'm still curious. I'd like to try running 4 weeks of D at 30mg Ed. I'm also focusing alot on my diet and trying to improve as I see it's very important. I'm a little concerned with the PCT for just a d cycle, I was planning on just having Nolva on hand and starting in on 40 mg/ ed when symptoms of gyno occur but after that I really don't know what else to do? Can anyone with Dbol only experience share their experiences ? Thnk you very much.

Start with a Test base. You will be happy you did.

[gsxrjut]

All my research has been pointing me that way.. Would a simple 500mg a week of Test E for 8 weeks with 30 mg D bol for weeks 1-4 be acceptable?

i really don't want a complicate cycle at all which is why I was avoiding test but the smarter folks have insisted on test. Nolva on hand for PCT and gyno?

[Jello]

All my research has been pointing me that way.. Would a simple 500mg a week of Test E for 8 weeks with 30 mg D bol for weeks 1-4 be acceptable?

i really don't want a complicate cycle at all which is why I was avoiding test but the smarter folks have insisted on test. Nolva on hand for PCT and gyno?

Shoot for at least 10 weeks. You will just start seeing results at about 4 weeks, and trust me you won't want to stop after that. Make sure you have clomid as well as nolva for PCT and with what you got you will have a good cycle. I am of course assuming your diet and training are in check, and you are also old enough for this.

[gsxrjut]

Yes, my training and diet are necessary before a cycle and I have both in check. I'm going to do more research before I jump into this . Thanks

Edit- Did some quick research and think I've made an adequate first cycle

Weeks 1-10 500mg Test E EW
1-4 30mg Dbol ED
12 40mg nolva 100 clomid ED
13 30mg nolva 50 clomid ED
14 20mg nolva 50 clomid ED


I know it's very simple but I'm simple too haha. Any thoughts? Thanks.

[THE MASTERPIECE]

My honest opinion.Test sometimes dont even kick in till 6weeks.I would atleast take the test-e 400mg or 500mg for 12weeks and the dbol 50mg ed split out for 4weeks for massive gains.If they give you a headache drink lotts more water or drop them back down to 30mg.
My cycle im about to start when i get all this whiskey and beer out of my system will be

BP TEST-E 500mg a week for 16weeks.
BP DBOL 50mg a day for 4 to 6weeks.
BP CLOMID only after the cycle.Not sure yet the dosage.

A friend of mine did this and gained like 40lbs.If you dont wanna gain that much just cut it all in half.Im gonna start a thread as soon as i start this week and ill keep it updated with weight gains and before and after pics.

[sliva32]

the cycle I ran last spring was :
500mg test e 12wks
50mg dbol 1-4wks
50mg winny 9-12 wks

It was a good solid cycle. After it was all said and done it was a net of about 17 lbs. The dbol kicked about day 5 then by week 4 I felt like king kong. SO LISTEN to the above advice...ADD SOME TEST!:D

[sliva32]

My honest opinion.Test sometimes dont even kick in till 6weeks.I would atleast take the test-e 400mg or 500mg for 12weeks and the dbol 50mg ed split out for 4weeks for massive gains.If they give you a headache drink lotts more water or drop them back down to 30mg.
My cycle im about to start when i get all this whiskey and beer out of my system will be

BP TEST-E 500mg a week for 16weeks.
BP DBOL 50mg a day for 4 to 6weeks.
BP CLOMID only after the cycle.Not sure yet the dosage.

A friend of mine did this and gained like 40lbs.If you dont wanna gain that much just cut it all in half.Im gonna start a thread as soon as i start this week and ill keep it updated with weight gains and before and after pics.
YOu gonna run nolvadex too in your PCT? Dosages for PCT range but 100mg clomid the first day then 50mg ed for 2 wks and nolvadex 40mg first day and 20 mg ed for 2 wks...I will save you the search button time :cool:

[THE MASTERPIECE]

YOu gonna run nolvadex too in your PCT? Dosages for PCT range but 100mg clomid the first day then 50mg ed for 2 wks and nolvadex 40mg first day and 20 mg ed for 2 wks...I will save you the search button time :cool:

Thanks.I couldnt get the nolvadex at the time and shipping and money orders is way to much just to order that item now.So im just gonna use clomid and hope i dont get gyno.If i do hard chest workouts shouldnt my chest stay hard and solid?

[cjjrwe]

Gyno has nothing to do with your chest workout, it depends more on how much test aromatizes, whether you are predisposed to gyno, body type, etc., you usually don't know until it happens, then you need to figure out why it happened. That is why the first couple of cycles should be simple, e.g. do not mix test and deca your first cycle, because if you do get gyno symtoms you will not know if it is from deca or test, which is caused by two different compounds, and they do not react to the same anti-e's, AIs. Test converts into estrogen, this can cause gyno, so here nolva, arimdex, letro, etc will help. However, deca is a progestin, and that can cause gyno that does not respond to the aforementioned anti-e's or AIs, and must be treated with other substances. That is why people are told to research the hormones they want to use, they are not all synergestic and can cause you issues.

[sliva32]

Gyno has nothing to do with your chest workout, it depends more on how much test aromatizes, whether you are predisposed to gyno, body type, etc., you usually don't know until it happens, then you need to figure out why it happened. That is why the first couple of cycles should be simple, e.g. do not mix test and deca your first cycle, because if you do get gyno symtoms you will not know if it is from deca or test, which is caused by two different compounds, and they do not react to the same anti-e's, AIs. Test converts into estrogen, this can cause gyno, so here nolva, arimdex, letro, etc will help. However, deca is a progestin, and that can cause gyno that does not respond to the aforementioned anti-e's or AIs, and must be treated with other substances. That is why people are told to research the hormones they want to use, they are not all synergestic and can cause you issues.

Bump..you can pick up Nolva from research labs fairly easliy...I'm not sure of a good source as it has been 2 years since I have used anyone but Alin on PCT stuff...but I am sure someone on here knows a place they wouldn't mind PMing you with..since you can't post sources....guys any help? Stopping hijack now:D

[Alin]

Hello all, I've be researching steroids alot lately and decided to join. I'd really like to try just a Dbol only cycle, as I have over 1k 10mg BP D's. I know,I have heard time and time again every cycle should be based on test. I've heard it all that i'll only gain water weight, I'll loose it all, the whole nine yards, yet i'm still curious. I'd like to try running 4 weeks of D at 30mg Ed. I'm also focusing alot on my diet and trying to improve as I see it's very important. I'm a little concerned with the PCT for just a d cycle, I was planning on just having Nolva on hand and starting in on 40 mg/ ed when symptoms of gyno occur but after that I really don't know what else to do? Can anyone with Dbol only experience share their experiences ? Thnk you very much.

Sounds like you have already made up your mind on using the DBOL alone,,,but trust me ,,,your gains will be far better when using testosterone as your base.

[Cruz]

you guys are smart, thanks for taking the time to help out the new guys such as myself!

[WorryWart]

Hello all, I've be researching steroids alot lately and decided to join. I'd really like to try just a Dbol only cycle, as I have over 1k 10mg BP D's. I know,I have heard time and time again every cycle should be based on test. I've heard it all that i'll only gain water weight, I'll loose it all, the whole nine yards, yet i'm still curious. I'd like to try running 4 weeks of D at 30mg Ed. I'm also focusing alot on my diet and trying to improve as I see it's very important. I'm a little concerned with the PCT for just a d cycle, I was planning on just having Nolva on hand and starting in on 40 mg/ ed when symptoms of gyno occur but after that I really don't know what else to do? Can anyone with Dbol only experience share their experiences ? Thnk you very much.

You are stepping on eggshells here when you mention a "Dbol only" cycle!

I will be flip-floping dbol and tbol for sixty days. Ending 2-28-09 NO PCT!

[dirtking358]

Gyno has nothing to do with your chest workout, it depends more on how much test aromatizes, whether you are predisposed to gyno, body type, etc., you usually don't know until it happens, then you need to figure out why it happened. That is why the first couple of cycles should be simple, e.g. do not mix test and deca your first cycle, because if you do get gyno symtoms you will not know if it is from deca or test, which is caused by two different compounds, and they do not react to the same anti-e's, AIs. Test converts into estrogen, this can cause gyno, so here nolva, arimdex, letro, etc will help. However, deca is a progestin, and that can cause gyno that does not respond to the aforementioned anti-e's or AIs, and must be treated with other substances. That is why people are told to research the hormones they want to use, they are not all synergestic and can cause you issues.

BUMP!!!

Do not wait until you have Gyno to run an AI! adex .25/day on cycle