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tpd01883
12-22-2008, 03:01 PM
Just curious what one could expect from test alone at 1g+. I've never personally run more than 500mg/week at one time, but my next cycle I'm going to bump it up for sure. Just curious if the mass or strength effects of test become more apparent at higher doses. I see very little in ways of strength from test.

SHORTSTOP
12-22-2008, 03:07 PM
Just curious what one could expect from test alone at 1g+. I've never personally run more than 500mg/week at one time, but my next cycle I'm going to bump it up for sure. Just curious if the mass or strength effects of test become more apparent at higher doses. I see very little in ways of strength from test.

i actually think anything over 500mg is a waist. if u been in the game awhile i could see 750mg but anything over that is just throwing money out the window and asking for all the unwanted side effects. u got to stack it with other compounds to get strength and mass

willie99
12-22-2008, 03:10 PM
For me 500 is good enough. I did 2 cycles with 750 but sides are getting worse for me then and didnt really notice greater gains (must be said they were different cycles). I dont think ill be doing 500+ anymore. Didnt notice much strenght gain either, just more acne :p.

though its obvious, the more test you take the more mass you get, its massbuilder #1. but like i said for me, the sides are getting the best of me at higher doses. so i guess you should trial and error and find out what you can take.

fatboybbw
12-22-2008, 07:25 PM
It didn't help me either I did 1g and all I got was more acne very little increase in strength and size, mainly just more acne

juced_porkchop
12-22-2008, 07:41 PM
im liking 1 omnadren amp eod :-P . i onlyer ever went 500mg ew also.
thow i feel liek im more tierd it may be due to the shitty winter lol

next time i WILL go 750mg ew along with other things for next winter bulk.

mxcx
12-22-2008, 08:20 PM
i actually think anything over 500mg is a waist. if u been in the game awhile i could see 750mg but anything over that is just throwing money out the window and asking for all the unwanted side effects. u got to stack it with other compounds to get strength and mass

bump SS ^^^.......i see just fine results with 250/wk.......anything more than 500/wk = more sides......unless your a 250lb + competition BB

tmike
12-22-2008, 10:51 PM
you also have to test your tolerance i did a cycle at 500 a week didn't get great your gains i i took a good friends advice and jumped it to 750 week and then started noticing it kick now i just keep it at 750 everybody reacts different you just have to figure out what works good for you i have a higher tolerance then most people

superbeast22
12-23-2008, 12:12 AM
i have a buddy who doesnt gain unless he runs about 2g a week. for us normal people that seems insane, but quicny taylor once told me (yes... me.. cool experience got to spend some time with him!) that 5g of test/week is definitly dosable when it comes to bodybuilding

IronBod
12-23-2008, 02:33 AM
i have a buddy who doesnt gain unless he runs about 2g a week. for us normal people that seems insane, but quicny taylor once told me (yes... me.. cool experience got to spend some time with him!) that 5g of test/week is definitly dosable when it comes to bodybuilding

5g a week = 3ml day (250mg/ml) doesnt sound like as much, when
you think about this way........:D But thats extreme and stupid if you
ask me !!!

I tried test @ gram a week and came to the same conclusion both times.
Way too much ! I bloated like a whale, felt like shit, and it was fucking
with my mind.......my thoughts to be exact.

IMO If you cant grow from test in the 250-600mg range, mixed with
another anabolic on top of that, eq, deca, primo, tren,......then you
arent doing something right to begin with. :rolleyes:

tpd01883
12-23-2008, 05:13 AM
I've grown fine on 2 cycles with test dosed in the 250-500mg range. I just want other possibilities are for me. I did not grow quite as much this past cycle as I would have liked. I largely blame that to poor diet and some illness that kept me out of the gym though.

SHORTSTOP
12-23-2008, 11:40 AM
I've grown fine on 2 cycles with test dosed in the 250-500mg range. I just want other possibilities are for me. I did not grow quite as much this past cycle as I would have liked. I largely blame that to poor diet and some illness that kept me out of the gym though.

eating is everything all the training in the world dont mean shit unless u eat. try stacking deca or EQ or both next time. i couldnt believe how much deca made a diffrence to my cycle. EQ not so much but still noticed the diffrence than just running test alone.

tpd01883
12-23-2008, 04:20 PM
eating is everything all the training in the world dont mean shit unless u eat. try stacking deca or EQ or both next time. i couldnt believe how much deca made a diffrence to my cycle. EQ not so much but still noticed the diffrence than just running test alone.

Hehe. I know how to eat bro. When I came off my last cycle I was 255-260 depending on how much salty foods i'd been eating. That was AFTER my cycle was over so bloatless. My last cycle was test eq and deca 500/600/600 I put on 15 lbs, but that includes bloat. Although my major lifts all jumped a solid 40-50 lbs except bench press which went up ~ 30. I just feel I didn't get as much out of it as I could...It could just be I was starting to hit a plateau though.

My situation is that I've been out of the gym basically since I finished PCT from that cycle. And I'm having surgery done in a few weeks so i'm going to be out of the gym for ~1.5 more months. I've already lost about 30lbs...Down to 225 by the time I'm back in the gym I will probably be 200ish...I'm just trying to figure out how much of a difference test makes when run higher doses. I've always noticed very little from test, test solo was dissapointing, test w/ deca and eq i feel the deca was doing most of the work. Dbol has always been amazing for mass and strength and I will definately be including it. But I'm looking to blow up and put a lot of weight on very quickly, not looking for quality muscle just weight / strength to bring me back close to where I was. Theres a good chance if I get back up in weight i'll be able to play ball this fall. But they want nothing to do with little 200lb kiddies.

I think based on what short and the rest of ya'll are saying that i'm gonna lean away from the higher dose test though. Maybe 750mg test / week w/ 600mg deca / week and dbol for the first 6 weeks and last 6 weeks 40mg ed. Total cycle length around 4 months. My real predicament here is I most likely need to stay away from nandrolone b/c of the long detection time. I'm already pushing it with the last cycle. This is why high dose test is appealing to me...low detection time.