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mazmm5
12-13-2008, 07:46 AM
Anyone know the detection time for OT?

I tried Googling it but came up with quite a number of differing times ranging from 5 to 6 days to 11 or 12 months.

I find it hard to believe that any oral will remain detectable for 11 or 12 months, and I always assumed it would clear quickly considering it's use by the East Germans back in the day.

Robblack
12-14-2008, 12:06 AM
Anyone know the detection time for OT?

I tried Googling it but came up with quite a number of differing times ranging from 5 to 6 days to 11 or 12 months.

I find it hard to believe that any oral will remain detectable for 11 or 12 months, and I always assumed it would clear quickly considering it's use by the East Germans back in the day.

yeah i don't know for sure but i wouldn't think any oral would be detectable for more that a couple days if even that. most injectables (besides deca) are undetectable way before that 11 to 12 month point.

joe4fsu
12-14-2008, 04:30 PM
5 days is a conservative estimate

The BB Monad
12-14-2008, 05:16 PM
Yes, I'd estimate a few days too. It doesn't make any sense at all to last months!

mazmm5
12-15-2008, 04:12 AM
Thanks guys

I'm going to tell the friends that is asking 2 week just to error on the safe side.

He does some competitive lifting and wants to take something but is worried about being tested.

experiments26
12-15-2008, 03:12 PM
yeah i don't know for sure but i wouldn't think any oral would be detectable for more that a couple days if even that. most injectables (besides deca) are undetectable way before that 11 to 12 month point.

Sorry but that's just wrong, the half life doesn't equal detection time...
Be careful, the metabolites are detectable in your body for much much longer.

It depends on several factors, your bodyfat % being the most important. The more bodyfat you have the longer the drug will be detectable in your body because the metabolites can be trapped in the fat cells.

OT should be somewhere between Var which is the around 3-4 weeks and D-Bol which is up to 8 weeks. That doesn't mean you won't get through it with shorter time off if you're super lean, but that's the guidelines to be on the safe side.

joe4fsu
12-16-2008, 09:26 AM
Sorry but that's just wrong, the half life doesn't equal detection time...
Be careful, the metabolites are detectable in your body for much much longer.

It depends on several factors, your bodyfat % being the most important. The more bodyfat you have the longer the drug will be detectable in your body because the metabolites can be trapped in the fat cells.

OT should be somewhere between Var which is the around 3-4 weeks and D-Bol which is up to 8 weeks. That doesn't mean you won't get through it with shorter time off if you're super lean, but that's the guidelines to be on the safe side.

What is your source for this?

Any oral, you piss away including any trace amounts that would be substantially lower than any MDL

The East Germans would take OT up until 5 days before a competition and was tested... never kicked an MDL

So please post your experience... if we are wrong... we want to learn... so help educate us (im being honest not sarcastic here)

Joe

mazmm5
12-16-2008, 09:45 AM
What is your source for this?

Any oral, you piss away including any trace amounts that would be substantially lower than any MDL

The East Germans would take OT up until 5 days before a competition and was tested... never kicked an MDL

So please post your experience... if we are wrong... we want to learn... so help educate us (im being honest not sarcastic here)

Joe

I was thinking the same thing with regard to the East Germans, but I am still quite new to all this myself hence the reason for asking.

experiments26
12-16-2008, 10:54 AM
What is your source for this?

Any oral, you piss away including any trace amounts that would be substantially lower than any MDL

The East Germans would take OT up until 5 days before a competition and was tested... never kicked an MDL

So please post your experience... if we are wrong... we want to learn... so help educate us (im being honest not sarcastic here)

Joe

Yes well you're absolutely right, it did work for the east german... however, that was over 30 years ago my friends... The testing got much better. They even got a test for hgh nowadays (which is detectable for only a couple of days though) and also the new forms of epo (3rd generation) as an example.

I'm not sure you understand what a metabolite is. It's a byproduct from a drug that is still detectable in the body long after the drug actually leave your system completely. The testers look for those markers nowadays, not for the actual drug for the obvious reasons you've stated.

As for my experience, let's just say I've been into competitive sports and I know about the testing. I've seen people get caught and others using almost undetectable procedure with hgh, slin, t-3 and small amount of test. The one thing I've noticed is that the higher the bodyfat % the more you are at risk.

In the east countries they still use the regular steroids and old procedures a lot cause it's way cheaper, that's why you see a lot of them get caught. Winstrol is the worst oral choice as it can be detected for a very long time. I know for a fact that Var and Halo were still used just a few years ago by some top sprinters, so detection time must not be too long for those, but those guys are totally ripped so they are less at risk to get caught.. OT is a deriviative from d-bol so I suspect the detection time must be pretty similar to it. But I can't recall any tested athletes taking it, it was not a very common drugs to come across until it came back recently maybe 3-4 years ago.

That said I've also seen guys inject themselves a week before a test and come through clean... But that's more of an exception, luck or a testing failure. So you can always take a chance, but I wouldn't rely on it.

joe4fsu
12-16-2008, 12:18 PM
Good info.. that was what I was looking for... thanks