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tpd01883
11-25-2008, 02:53 PM
Ok so I know various members have said don't use deca w/ nolva etc etc. I can see the logic behind this as estrogen agonizm causes a decrease in sensitivity to the progesterone receptor, so blocking it would increase this sensitivity. However I'm getting estrogen related gyno and the only AI I have is letrozole. It's liquid letro at 2.5mg/ml and dosed anywhere above like .25mg eod is too much letro for my needs imo. I had some a-dex but I can't seem to find it, my father is on HRT and takes adex 3x a week to keep estrogen down...he may have stolen it from me.
Assuming I don't find some adex, would nolva be ok to use while on deca? I'm planning on doing 10mg a day for the next 6 weeks or so til the cycle runs out.
fr8lnr01
11-25-2008, 09:31 PM
progesterone is pretty much useless without estrogen so use the letro. bromocriptine and cabergoline are effective for prolactin not progesterone.
Ok so I know various members have said don't use deca w/ nolva etc etc. I can see the logic behind this as estrogen agonizm causes a decrease in sensitivity to the progesterone receptor, so blocking it would increase this sensitivity. However I'm getting estrogen related gyno and the only AI I have is letrozole. It's liquid letro at 2.5mg/ml and dosed anywhere above like .25mg eod is too much letro for my needs imo. I had some a-dex but I can't seem to find it, my father is on HRT and takes adex 3x a week to keep estrogen down...he may have stolen it from me.
Assuming I don't find some adex, would nolva be ok to use while on deca? I'm planning on doing 10mg a day for the next 6 weeks or so til the cycle runs out.
use the LETROZOLE..just adjust the dosage accordingly.
tpd01883
11-26-2008, 04:11 AM
progesterone is pretty much useless without estrogen so use the letro. bromocriptine and cabergoline are effective for prolactin not progesterone.
Its estrogen related not progest...Hence the nolva. I just dont want to use letro since the sides are so harsh and it will be hard for me to dose it low...2.5mg/ml i guess i can try and dose w/ a slin pin or somethin.
zznwhs
11-26-2008, 06:02 AM
Its estrogen related not progest...Hence the nolva. I just dont want to use letro since the sides are so harsh and it will be hard for me to dose it low...2.5mg/ml i guess i can try and dose w/ a slin pin or somethin.
I was going to suggest the slin pin. I guess one question I have is...how are you 100% certain that the gyno is estrogen related? How much test, deca, and anything else are you currently running on this cycle?
fr8lnr01
11-26-2008, 06:39 AM
Its estrogen related not progest...Hence the nolva. I just dont want to use letro since the sides are so harsh and it will be hard for me to dose it low...2.5mg/ml i guess i can try and dose w/ a slin pin or somethin.
We figured you knew how to dose the liquid letro. Take a slin pin, pull the plunger back a little and cut the very end with the needle off. Every 10 is a thenth. Good luck.
tpd01883
11-26-2008, 06:01 PM
Im positive it's estrogen related gyno. Before I ever tried injectables I tried this OTC prohormone called pheraplex and it gave me prolactin gyno. I squeezed my nips and leaked from it :D . This is definately estrogen related gyno as my lumps have started to grow, and i'm 3 days on nolva 10mg ed and my soreness is gone. I'm gonna extend my cycle 3 weeks and run letro at 2.5mg ed to try and get rid of the gyno. Hoping the deca will mask some of the joint pains from letro.
Cycle is thus though:
Test-375 1-12
Eq 600 1-12
Deca 500 1-16
Test 500 12-18
All the soreness etc started up after a few weeks on test at 500mg ew.
fr8lnr01
11-27-2008, 06:52 AM
Does anyone get joint pain from letrozole? I don't.
I was going to suggest the slin pin. I guess one question I have is...how are you 100% certain that the gyno is estrogen related? How much test, deca, and anything else are you currently running on this cycle?
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