About two take my 2nd cycle, would love to have some input/advice!

[Crispy]

Hey guys, I've taken one cycle before of test e, and deca...but didn't perform my diet or workouts correctly while on it. ( messed up PCT and ended up losing most of my gains) I've taken a year long break, and am gearing up for my second cycle. I have a friend of mine that has some more experience than I do, though I have done my share of research, I asked him for his advice on my next cycle and this is what's looking like.
5' 7" 162lbs. 18% BF (that's an old test ,but I do realize I need to get my BF down before I go ON)

Anadrol
Test E
Equipose
HCG
Clomid

I plan on taking Anadrol at the beginning with the Test E and EQ , and towards the end of the cycle taking the HCG and finishing with Clomid. I haven't worked out doses yet though. My buddy is going to do 500mg of TEST E and EQ a week, and we ordered the same amounts ( 30ML of each)...but I dont think I need to take that much. I was thinking of taking 250mg of each per week. I need to look up and see what the normal doses for the HCG and the Anadrol are though. Obviously I have some kinks to be worked out, and no I'm not going to take it until I have a set schedule and my PCT is in my hand.
Judging by my stats what would you guys my reccommend my dosage being? Seeing as how I will have some left over I was thinking of making this a 15 wk cycle...but I'd really just like some trusted opinions from the guys in the Alin world. Thanks guys!

[Crispy]

Anyone? ....Bump.

[LexusJCO]

definitely need to work on you dosing. whats your diet look like. training and goals?

i suggest-

500mg test/wk 14wks
400mg EQ/wk 12wks
anabol 50mg ED wks 1-4
HGC 500iu E5 days
PCT 2wks after cycle

[LexusJCO]

PCT needs to look like this. important!

WEEK 16: 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid Every Day
WEEK 17: 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every Day
WEEK 18: 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every Day

[Crispy]

I think im going to go something like this...

Anadrol 50 mgs/ ed <First three weeks, if I'm makin good gains, I'll go 4wks>
Test E 500mg/week
EQ 400mg/week
HCG 500IU/ E5D <last 3 weeks of the cycle>
Clomid 100 mg/ 50MG/ 50mg <in 10 day increments>

My Diet consists mostly of canned tuna and canned chicken breast, and Salmon. Along with sweet potatoes, egg whites, some form of greens. I'm trying to keep things clean. I try to either eat a small meal or a protein shake every 3-4 hrs.


My goal is to get to 170 at 10% BF. Though I'm okay with getting more weight, then cutting down after the cycle is finished. Right now I'm just trying to bulk!

Thanks for Replying, and all input is welcome!


Will I need anything else for pct besides Clomid?

[Crispy]

I am chunky now though, although I dont know my exact BF%, but I'm going to cut it down a little before the cycle, though I'm not worried to much about water weight and some extra fat right now.

[LexusJCO]

Will I need anything else for pct besides Clomid?

yes - Nolva

[joe4fsu]

Have you ordered it already? OR this is the planning stage??

[LexusJCO]

I think im going to go something like this...

Anadrol 50 mgs/ ed <First three weeks, if I'm makin good gains, I'll go 4wks> you'll have good gains as long as you have a good training regime
Test E 500mg/week good..how long?
EQ 400mg/week good..how long?
HCG 500IU/ E5D <last 3 weeks of the cycle>or when needed - maybe sooner
Clomid 100 mg/ 50MG/ 50mg <in 10 day increments>

My Diet consists mostly of canned tuna and canned chicken breast, and Salmon. Along with sweet potatoes, egg whites, some form of greens. I'm trying to keep things clean. I try to either eat a small meal or a protein shake every 3-4 hrs. i meant what is your cal/carb intake look like


My goal is to get to 170 at 10% BF. Though I'm okay with getting more weight, then cutting down after the cycle is finished. Right now I'm just trying to bulk!

Thanks for Replying, and all input is welcome!


Will I need anything else for pct besides Clomid?

see text in red

[Crispy]

Test E & EQ will be 15 wks long

I haven't been counting my cals/carbs right now but guess would be around 2800/400

I have already ordered the test e, EQ, HCG, Anadrol. I'm about to order my pct, but wanted to firm up on the idea that clomid would be enough, but that question was already answered. Should I order some Amridex for ai ?

I don't plan on taking this cycle until Mid-Dec...maybe January, I just want to get my ducks in a row before initiating the cycle.

[LexusJCO]

Test E & EQ will be 15 wks long

I haven't been counting my cals/carbs right now but guess would be around 2800/400

I have already ordered the test e, EQ, HCG, Anadrol. I'm about to order my pct, but wanted to firm up on the idea that clomid would be enough, but that question was already answered. Should I order some Amridex for ai ?

I don't plan on taking this cycle until Mid-Dec...maybe January, I just want to get my ducks in a row before initiating the cycle.

why would you run both for 15 weeks?
you need to eat 4000 cals a day. no exceptions.
yes, get arimidex (is that what you meant)

i will be honest with you - you need to do a lot more research.

[Crispy]

Thanks a lot LexusJCO,
I read that you need to take EQ for a longer period of time to get some pronouced gains, but I've also read that you should take test longer than your EQ...so I tried to find a happy median.

Thanks for the info guys, I do research ,but apparently not enough. That's why I'm not putting a time constraint on when I will start my cycle, I want to be prepared before I start it.....and yes you can start to Flame, but once again I thanks you guys for taking your to help me!

[LexusJCO]

best of luck to you bro. I hope it works out.

[giff]

cycle looks ok. good luck but i would go with
1-16 test 500
1-14 eq 400
1-4 drol 50mg ed
hcg e5d starting week 3
keep a dex on hand
and pct clom and nolva standard dose

you will get good gains aim for 2g of protein per lbs and 4000 calories around a gallon of water

[joe4fsu]

you will get good gains aim for 2g of protein per lbs and 4000 calories around a gallon of water

Ya.. which ever cycle you go with.. this is key

and stay away from KFC and Popeye's (Crispy) ok bad joke..

[Crispy]

Nice Joke Joe! haha.

Can someone shed some light on the HCG issue? I've heard two conflicting stories...

1) Taking HCg subcutaneously or intramuscular?...is there really a benefit to either one?

2) I've heard prolonged use of HCG will desensitize you, yet I read of a lot of guys taking 500iu E5D starting at week3....Can anyone shed some light on this?

[Crispy]

Nevermind, I found the answers to both of my questions.

[LeanMass17]

Hey guys, I've taken one cycle before of test e, and deca...but didn't perform my diet or workouts correctly while on it. ( messed up PCT and ended up losing most of my gains) I've taken a year long break, and am gearing up for my second cycle. I have a friend of mine that has some more experience than I do, though I have done my share of research, I asked him for his advice on my next cycle and this is what's looking like.
5' 7" 162lbs. 18% BF (that's an old test ,but I do realize I need to get my BF down before I go ON)

Anadrol I dont think you need this
Test E
EquiposeI dont think you need this
HCG
Clomid
Nolvadex
Arimidex or Letro in case you get gyno

I plan on taking Anadrol at the beginning with the Test E and EQ , and towards the end of the cycle taking the HCG and finishing with Clomid. I haven't worked out doses yet though. My buddy is going to do 500mg of TEST E and EQ a week, and we ordered the same amounts ( 30ML of each)...but I dont think I need to take that much. I was thinking of taking 250mg of each per week. I need to look up and see what the normal doses for the HCG and the Anadrol are though. Obviously I have some kinks to be worked out, and no I'm not going to take it until I have a set schedule and my PCT is in my hand.
Judging by my stats what would you guys my reccommend my dosage being? Seeing as how I will have some left over I was thinking of making this a 15 wk cycle...but I'd really just like some trusted opinions from the guys in the Alin world. Thanks guys!

I don’t think you are ready for AAS at you stats, your too light and your body fat is too high...your 162lbs and your goal is 170lbs? I think you could definitely attain that naturally with some hard work, specifically bulking hard for 6 months and then cutting with a clean diet a lot of cardio and maybe some clenbuterol if needed....Why are you doing some many compounds? Why not Test and Deca or again, or even just Test? Anadrol is horrible for you and has links to cancer. If you insist on an oral why not something safer like Anavar or T-bol? You said you did a cycle of Test and Deca. Do you know if you gyno prone? If you are anadrol will have you sporting some nice tits just in time for spring break...

[Crispy]

On Test and Deca I had a little gyno flare up towards the end of my cycle. You are right saying that I shouldn't be taking this many compounds. I think I'm going to take the Anadrol out. I think I'm going to stay with the rest and pick up some Letro. I'm not starting my cycle until I get my BF% down. I'm in no hurry for this cycle. I'm going to make sure this cycle is done correctly. The reason my goal is low, is so I dont expect too much. After going from 140- 173 my first cycle, only to lose most of it. I'd rather shoot for a lower BW number and strive to exceed my goal. If HCG isn't mixed, how long of a shelf life will it have?

[LeanMass17]

It lasts a very long time unconstituted, but after it is mixed it will only last about 6 weeks