Best fat burner on PCT (clen,albu,ECA,t2??)

[Rafael BR]

Im on Equi/winny/proviron cycle....

and im using ECA (15/150/200) before morning cardio....
and i use 1mg of ketotifen before bed 1week on 2 off with ECA....

but i need best fat burner anti catabolic stack.... i have Albuterol, Clembuterol and ECA on hands... AND T2.....
t4 and t3 i doenst need to use, only T2....personal issues

My cycle:

1-10 Equi 400mg/week
6-12 Oral Winny 40mg/day
1-16 Proviron 50mg/day
pct- 13-16 (clomid, proviron, fat burning, ketotifen)

6-8 ECA (15/150/200)
8-16 ??? What fat burning to use??? i need a safe fat burning ON cycle and one more hardcore on PCT....becouse hardcore fat burning and steroids kill the heart hehehehe thanks guys...fell free with options!

[newguy666]

DNP or Clen are the best.

[Alin]

DNP or Clen are the best.

I have to agree with you on those two.

[Rafael BR]

man.... i have t2, clem and ECA on my plan.....
On week 13 my body is fully steroid free...i start my pct...

my fear is hurt my heart with clen and steroids together.....
ECA is more heart friendly than clem no?
t2 only when im on to minimize the catabolims!

thanks guys...look some ideas:

Option 1:
9- Eca(15/150/100) two times per day with t2(100mcg) 3 times per day
10-Eca(15/150/100) two times per day with t2(100mcg) 3 times per day
11-Eca(15/150/100) two times per day with t2(100mcg) 3 times per day
12-Eca(15/150/100) two times per day with t2(100mcg) 3 times per day ketotifen(1mg)
13- Clem adaptation week to 100mcg with t2(100mcg) 3 times per day
14-clem fully effect (100mcg a day) 2times per day and ketotifen at night (2mg)
15-clem fully effect (100mcg a day) 2times per day and ketotifen at night (2mg)
16-clem fully effect (100mcg a day) 2times per day and ketotifen at night (2mg)

Option 2:
9-16 Clem 2days on 2 days off with ECA when clem is off and ketotifen 2mg every 1week on 1 week off
9-13 t2(100mg) 3times per day

feel free to give other opinions...

[bulldawg305]

DNP or Clen are the best.

i agree.... a DAMN new guy, i just checked out that youtube vid you have the link for..... :eek:

[Rafael BR]

what about my options???
hehehe thanks for the answers but i need options....i start next week...

[Rafael BR]

can i use yohimbine with:
ECA?? after my morning (fast) cardio
clem?? after my morning (fast) cardio

[newguy666]

can i use yohimbine with:
ECA?? after my morning (fast) cardio
clem?? after my morning (fast) cardio

i would stay away from anything that supresses appitite. also, dont do high intensity cario during pct... long brisk walks are just as effective... the whole point of pct is to restore htpa and keep muscle gains.

[Rafael BR]

appetite doent effect my diet.... i plan to eat->i eat....with great large appetite and without appetite.... i only need to get off the fat my friend

[tdizzle28]

That is the most jacked up cycle I've ever seen. Try the clen 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off to shed some BF...I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish, your cycle looks like something a 2nd grader came up with.

[Big A]

Check this:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19033

[newguy666]

appetite doent effect my diet.... i plan to eat->i eat....with great large appetite and without appetite.... i only need to get off the fat my friend

you need to eat to keep gains... ephedrine and yohombine are appitite suppressants... DUH!:rolleyes:

good luck forcing yourself to eat.:rolleyes:

you should have treid to eat lean ON CYCLE and you wouldnt have this problem.

i tried the stuff bigA recommended... it worked well... made me VERY STRONG and helped me keep gains while dropping fat.

[Rafael BR]

i cant find it in brazil.....(the big a stuff)


what about clem 2days on 2 days off??? in brazil is the method...
and i read a bodybuilder boook...."building the perfect beast" heheheheh
crazy guy.... he use 2days on 2 days off and on off days use ECA stack...

[irish2003]

clen was the best I've used but taking my temperature all the time was annoying......I used to drink alot of the Ripped Force drinks by ABB when they put ephredrine in drinks in the 90's all the way up to the week before my shows......

[ojs]

can i use yohimbine with:
ECA?? after my morning (fast) cardio
clem?? after my morning (fast) cardio
If you're going to use yohimbine combining it with an ECA stack is best. Tyrone's ECA stack works beautifully with yohimbine. You need to find a local ECA stack.

[Rafael BR]

OJS, in brazil ephedrine are a OTC (non prescription needed) ....

(franol)100 tabs of 15mg ephedrine and 150mg Theophylline = 10dolars
caffeine= 120 tabs of 150mg 15dolars
aspirine= 10tabs of 100mg 1dolar / 10tabs of 500mg 1,5dolars


yohimbine in brazil have higher price but i have a USA yohimbine HCL heheheh


OK, i will took my yohimbine with my ECA before my morning cardio.... :P

[Rafael BR]

wow...and i will do the yohimbine and ECA combo before my PCT... when i start my pct, i will start clebuterol with ketotifen:

1-4 ketotifen 2mg/day

clenbuterol:
days 1-2: 25mcg/day
days 3-5: 50/day
days 6-8: 75/day
days 9-21: 100/day
days 22-24: 75/day
days 25-27: 50/day
days 28: 25/day


take clen on weekends? os take 2days per week off?

[Big A]

i cant find it in brazil.....(the big a stuff)


www.synthetek.com Plenty of customers in brazil.

[Rafael BR]

anyone to coment about my clen method?

[Rafael BR]

sorry about the reply hehehehe my firefox have a bug

[Rafael BR]

i plan my clem on my post cycle becouse my summer will start on next month hehehe

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[BlueVenom]

clen gives me the worst headaches and steals my potassium from my body! I then begin to cramp up :(

[Kg551_41]

Clen - no doubt and I agree avoiding T3.

[BlueVenom]

t3 eek!

[hcube]

www.synthetek.com Plenty of customers in brazil.

Hmm, I read on the SyntheBURN:

INGREDIENTS: Each serving (2 capsules) contains Ephedrine 20mg (MaHuang Extract 250mg), Caffeine 200mg (Guarana Extract 910mg), Synephrine 12mg (Citrus Aurantium 200mg), L-Tyrosine 100mg, Ginger 100mg – 120 capsule bottle
NOTE: SYNTHEBURN NO LONGER CONTAINS MAHUANG


So it has no ephedrine or what? :confused:

hcube

[hcube]

btw, should not merllina be banned, really really hard? :D

[ojs]

Hmm, I read on the SyntheBURN:


So it has no ephedrine or what? :confused:

hcube
Haha!! It was the first thing you read dude!!!

INGREDIENTS: Each serving (2 capsules) contains Ephedrine 20mg (MaHuang Extract 250mg)

[Tyrone]

btw, should not merllina be banned, really really hard? :D

He's gone and so are any posts he's made here on Alinboard.

[irish2003]

clen gives me the worst headaches and steals my potassium from my body! I then begin to cramp up :(

if you can obtain hydrochlorothiazide it will help with the loss of potassium.....i used to take that with aldactone when dropping my last bit of water the night before and morning of a show

[peptidoglycan]

clen was the best I've used but taking my temperature all the time was annoying......I used to drink alot of the Ripped Force drinks by ABB when they put ephredrine in drinks in the 90's all the way up to the week before my shows......

why would you take your temp all the time?

[RANGER75]

I hope some DNP comes in soon. I would be all over that stuff.