Does D Bol really contribute to permanent gains?

[paulwc]

A week into my current cycle- Test Cyp 500 mg, Eq 400 mg weekly, Adex .25 mg daily, all x 12 weeks, and Dbol 30 mg and 4 Liv52 tablets daily for the first month to get things started. Starting to notice the D Bol effects today during my Chest & Tri sets, always nice to feel it coming on.

Now, the big question- Does Dbol use during the first month of a cycle make a true difference at the end, or as far as permanent gains? Or is it just an interesting ride on a sexy whore that'll be gone after she's done? I've noticed a slight drop in 1-2 rep max strength after stopping Dbol in past cycles, then a gradual increase in strength after the 6th-7th week.

Granted, there's more to keeping gains- PCT, diet and appropriate workouts in the post cycle period, but I wonder if Dbol makes a true difference.

[Alin]

A week into my current cycle- Test Cyp 500 mg, Eq 400 mg weekly, Adex .25 mg daily, all x 12 weeks, and Dbol 30 mg and 4 Liv52 tablets daily for the first month to get things started. Starting to notice the D Bol effects today during my Chest & Tri sets, always nice to feel it coming on.

Now, the big question- Does Dbol use during the first month of a cycle make a true difference at the end, or as far as permanent gains? Or is it just an interesting ride on a sexy whore that'll be gone after she's done? I've noticed a slight drop in 1-2 rep max strength after stopping Dbol in past cycles, then a gradual increase in strength after the 6th-7th week.

Granted, there's more to keeping gains- PCT, diet and appropriate workouts in the post cycle period, but I wonder if Dbol makes a true difference.

Ejoy the results while there present. as you already know and stated,,proper preperation AFTER cycle is the key to gains retention.

[lostwars]

Ejoy the results while there present. as you already know and stated,,proper preperation AFTER cycle is the key to gains retention.

bump the above

[LeanMass17]

Ejoy the results while there present. as you already know and stated,,proper preperation AFTER cycle is the key to gains retention.

Agreed, but it well known that gains from some compounds are more easily retained. Orals like d-bol and and anadrol are not know for this....If you look at retention ratings for specific compounds Deca, EQ, Primo and HGH usually rate the highest...as far as orals I would say gains made on Anavar and T-bol are more likely to be ratined