A few issues needing answers.

[gruvi]

1.)Bought my vials from Researchsupply.net.
Test seems to be oozing from the top of the vial. Small amounts, but still there non the less. Should it be pressurized.
Caus I release the pressure from my vials.

2.)Floaties.
Little chunks I have to avoid withdrawing. Do you all keep pinning the same spot on the rubber stopper or move it around to avoid this problem of rubber stopper chunks.
Also on the same note are little hair thick, less than a millimetre in length hazardous to inject. Caus I did last week. Which ties me into the third question.

3.)My last problem seems to be the real issue. I injected my right shoulder last Wednesday after work (with the above mentioned floaty), hit the weights (back workout) then home, dinner, then off to jiu-jitsu for a hard 2 hour session. Shower, then bed. While in bed I noticed my shoulder felt kinda numb. Next day while working out on shoulders I felt awkward, passed it off as stealth pain from the test.
So here I am on the Monday, I can't raise my arm with a bend in it while next to my waist.
Same goes as if I have my arm elevated in front of me then try to bend it with my hand facing the ceiling. I cant turn my arm inward to my chest while in this position at all either. No pain, just no control.
I was thinking it may be that I over trained and some how the nerve has been affected by the injection causing pressure.
I dont think it could be the floaty as it was way too small. I could hardly pick it up with my eye.
I injected straight into the side of the delt in the centre as usual, nothing like this before.

On a side note I injured this shoulder years ago and it still clicks and has given me pain since.

[joe4fsu]

Gruvi... it sounds like this is nothing to panic about... I know me personally I CANT take pins in the shoulder because no matter what I inject I also get the discomfort/soreness in the delt where I cant move it for 3 to 4 days... I learned that very early in my gear experience.. thus I try not to deviate from glute pins.. and I adjust my cycles arrordingly.. I do limit what I can cycle but I never have issues with missing workouts..

As far as #1.. it is probably the high/cheap grade rubber stopper... just work around it..

#2 I have no experience with

I think the pain/discomfort is from the gear and was just bad luck... in combination with soreness from previous workouts you might have reached a breaking point and your body is telling you to take it easy for a couple of days IMVHO

[zznwhs]

Im not sure about this but I think the reason some gear comes out of the vial is due to the alcohol content of the gear. I have no proof on this....just a theory. If I have my gear in a large vial and the stopper starts getting worn I will slap a piece of scotch tape on it after loading my syringe. Always wipe the vial stopper off with alcohol before and after loading too....safety first.

As far as the floaters...I always try to put the needle in at the same point every time. But more importantly, when you are loading the syringe just hold it up to a light source and be extra careful not to suck a floating rubber piece into your syringe. Thats pretty much all there is to it.

[gruvi]

Gruvi... it sounds like this is nothing to panic about... I know me personally I CANT take pins in the shoulder because no matter what I inject I also get the discomfort/soreness in the delt where I cant move it for 3 to 4 days... I learned that very early in my gear experience.. thus I try not to deviate from glute pins.. and I adjust my cycles arrordingly.. I do limit what I can cycle but I never have issues with missing workouts..

As far as #1.. it is probably the high/cheap grade rubber stopper... just work around it..

#2 I have no experience with

I think the pain/discomfort is from the gear and was just bad luck... in combination with soreness from previous workouts you might have reached a breaking point and your body is telling you to take it easy for a couple of days IMVHO

I'm thinking it's just temporary too. Last cycle I did I pinned my shoulders with 2ml of stanazol eod, stung like hell. Got up this morning and felt a little more mobility in my shoulder, feels like its over tensed and I have to mentally realx it to get control.........
As for taking it easy thats a no no. I'm a work-a-holic.
Thanks Joe



Im not sure about this but I think the reason some gear comes out of the vial is due to the alcohol content of the gear. I have no proof on this....just a theory. If I have my gear in a large vial and the stopper starts getting worn I will slap a piece of scotch tape on it after loading my syringe. Always wipe the vial stopper off with alcohol before and after loading too....safety first.

As far as the floaters...I always try to put the needle in at the same point every time. But more importantly, when you are loading the syringe just hold it up to a light source and be extra careful not to suck a floating rubber piece into your syringe. Thats pretty much all there is to it.

Hi ZZ hows things bro. Hope life is treating you good. If not, slap the bitch.:D
Definitely dont want no floaties in my syringe. Thanks for the input bro.:)

[Jello]

If it seems to have a lot of pressure in the vials, stick a needle in the top to vent out the excess air.

[gruvi]

If it seems to have a lot of pressure in the vials, stick a needle in the top to vent out the excess air.

First thing I do. Otherwise when you go to withdraw the syringe just overfill with the excess pressure.

[redlion]

Dont use vials. Just load into 3-5ml syringes. Then pull out the plunger on a new sterile syringe, and load it at an angle. Not to let the oil go to the bottom (needle side)... Then install the plunger, and clear out, and inject. Works great for me.... No possibility of contaminated vials.....

[juced_porkchop]

Dont use vials. Just load into 3-5ml syringes. Then pull out the plunger on a new sterile syringe, and load it at an angle. Not to let the oil go to the bottom (needle side)... Then install the plunger, and clear out, and inject. Works great for me.... No possibility of contaminated vials.....

i feel this makes for a higher possibility of contamination.

i never had a prob with using viles to hold
but when transfering after u got stealth into syrng i stick a 25g pin in the top of vile just a few milameter in to let pressure out then stick 23g pinand syrng in and fill vile then when done pull out both pins and now the pressure is even.

[redlion]

True, but i like the way i do it, and ive never had a problem. I just dont trust that the vials i have ordered are sterile....

[ajnaz]

i was gonna buy some vials from there let me know how it all works out

[kevin3987]

keep doing what ur doing, in addittion swab with alch, bfore & after. & DO inject rubber into ur body put the vial up 2 a light & avoid it.. also what gauge r u sticking through that stopper?

[gruvi]

keep doing what ur doing, in addittion swab with alch, bfore & after. & DO inject rubber into ur body put the vial up 2 a light & avoid it.. also what gauge r u sticking through that stopper?

I've read before that you should not swab the stopper with alcohol too often. If you do it, have you had any complications.
Lol, you said in your reply DO inject rubber. I take it you meant not to.
I'm sticking the stopper with a 23g needle.
Oh yeah, love the Ice Man.

[WannaGetBigger]

From what I understand, stealth has a small amount of BA in it.

Along with the fact a new syringe is just as sterile as a vial, I feel there is no greater contamination problem from using a new syringe to hold your stealth than a vial.

[mrvtwin80]

Researchsupply.net. is the only company I purchased my supplies from!! I have never had any of these problems. I'm very happy with their vials and oils and I feel everything is of top quality, shipping is extremely fast also.