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Need2bBigger
10-09-2008, 07:28 PM
Time for my winter bulking cycle. Stats are: 23 yo, 5'10", 203 12-13% bf. Previous cycles include alot of stuff. Compounds included in this cycle I have never used are EQ and Proviron. I have not yet ran letro in a cycle however I prefer to run it at a low dose because I got gyno last cycle unless its not needed bc of the proviron. The hcg may also not be needed so just chime in and tell me what you think. The proviron might do the job of keeping up natural test. Also, I would really like to keep the low doses that I have listed. Goal is to stay "lean" while bulking.

Planned cycle is 20 weeks:

Weeks 1-20: Test E(cidoteston) 250mg/E4D
Weeks 1-18: EQ(stealth) 400mg/wk
Weeks 1-15: Deca(Karachi) 400mg/wk
Weeks 1-20: HCG 500iu/E5D
Weeks 1-20: Proviron 25mg/ED
Weeks 1-20: Letro .25mg/ED (will start 2 weeks before cycle)

PCT:
Week 20(after ending cycle): HCG 250iu/ED
Weeks 20-28: Proviron 25mg/ED
Weeks 24-27: Clomid Therapy(150,100,50 Protocol)
Weeks 24-27: Nolvadex 20mg/ED

Need2bBigger
10-10-2008, 08:49 PM
Does this lack of response mean my cycle is perfect? I believe so... Thanks guys ;)

bigdannyt
10-10-2008, 10:05 PM
I would either do deca OR eq. Everyone has there own preference. No need to do both. IMO
Personally deca worked better for me in the past.

redlion
10-10-2008, 10:59 PM
Id run the EQ... Seems to be less water retention in my experience. I was running 500iu HCG E5D, but i switched to 250iu E3D... A few hours after my pin, my sex drive and energy would be high, but by about the 3rd day it'd die off... E3D solved this problem.. Plus, im about 60+ days out from my last shot with the typical nolva/clomid PCT and i feel great... gonna get blood results back soon... I only lost about 5lbs after cycle. I think this E5D HCG protocol is the key...

Good Luck.

sergovski
10-10-2008, 11:04 PM
i would like to see what others have to say about your pct it gets me curious

Need2bBigger
10-11-2008, 06:17 AM
Id run the EQ... Seems to be less water retention in my experience. I was running 500iu HCG E5D, but i switched to 250iu E3D... A few hours after my pin, my sex drive and energy would be high, but by about the 3rd day it'd die off... E3D solved this problem.. Plus, im about 60+ days out from my last shot with the typical nolva/clomid PCT and i feel great... gonna get blood results back soon... I only lost about 5lbs after cycle. I think this E5D HCG protocol is the key...

Good Luck.

Do you mean you think E3D is the key bro? I think I'll try this this time. Also, my reason for running deca and EQ is because I want to try EQ for the lean gains, but I want to run the deca because my jaw starts locking up when I sleep and when I run a deca cycle it seems to help this for about a year or a year and a half. I might drop the deca down to 300 mg a week since I have it in 100mg amps. Thanks for the input guys.

therealkellygang
10-11-2008, 09:23 AM
Time for my winter bulking cycle. Stats are: 23 yo, 5'10", 203 12-13% bf. Previous cycles include alot of stuff. Compounds included in this cycle I have never used are EQ and Proviron. I have not yet ran letro in a cycle however I prefer to run it at a low dose because I got gyno last cycle unless its not needed bc of the proviron. The hcg may also not be needed so just chime in and tell me what you think. The proviron might do the job of keeping up natural test. Also, I would really like to keep the low doses that I have listed. Goal is to stay "lean" while bulking.

Planned cycle is 20 weeks:

Weeks 1-20: Test E(cidoteston) 250mg/E4D
Weeks 1-18: EQ(stealth) 400mg/wk
Weeks 1-15: Deca(Karachi) 400mg/wk
Weeks 1-20: HCG 500iu/E5D
Weeks 1-20: Proviron 25mg/ED
Weeks 1-20: Letro .25mg/ED (will start 2 weeks before cycle)

PCT:
Week 20(after ending cycle): HCG 250iu/ED
Weeks 20-28: Proviron 25mg/ED
Weeks 24-27: Clomid Therapy(150,100,50 Protocol)
Weeks 24-27: Nolvadex 20mg/ED



I always throw Masteron in over Proviron...better bang for the buck...IMO
As well, I would increase the EQ to 600mg/wk

GL with it, you should get so greats gains either way!

redlion
10-11-2008, 10:49 AM
Yea, E3D worked excellent for me. Also my cousin has a sports medicine dr, and he prescribed HCG every 3rd day also.... But everyBODY is different...